Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-08-07 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
So this morning it finally works like it is supposed to. I open emails from the system and it let's me read them. The only two that have High CPU usage are Tripwire/Cron Daily reports and Clam reports. And they even let the CPU return to normal once they've loaded. I'll never know what was

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-07-07 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-07-07 at 09:28 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Both have threads related to your graphics drivers > (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/radeonsi_dri.so), maybe that is part > of > the problem you face. Great I'm screwed then, something is pointing to a firmware location for

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-07-04 at 13:58 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > I did the commands for the backtraces like you asked, attached are > evolution_bt.txt and wkwp_bt.txt Hi, I do not see anything obviously wrong in the backtraces, they look like showing the process in an idle

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-07-04 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-07-04 at 10:52 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Evo (and/or WebKitGTK) does very weird things on your machine. No joke there.  I did the commands for the backtraces like you asked, attached are evolution_bt.txt and wkwp_bt.txt [New LWP 2194809] [New LWP 2194811] [New LWP

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-07-04 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-07-01 at 10:41 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > The only thing I get is a banner telling me WebKit crashed Hi, yes, that's what I meant. > It's also how I used to have to exit Evolution is kill webkit > first, otherwise Evolution would hang Evo (and/or

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-07-01 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-07-01 at 08:06 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > No support if you kill background processes when an app using them is > running (evo might tell you something went wrong when you kill the > WebProcess). Ummm? The only thing I get is a banner telling me WebKit crashed and

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-07-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 10:22 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > 4. Dragged a mail from local to IMAP folder, still pegs CPU, deleted > mail after. CPU went back to normal in IMAP folder. Hi, I understand from the above that the same mail behaves the same odd both when being

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-30 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 10:26 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 12:30 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list > wrote: > > I copied one of the cron reports into an email and > > attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail. > > Hi, > I

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-30 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Being it true, with exactly the same message, then I still do not > understand what the WebKitGTK would have to do with it, because it's > independent of the mail storage. That would cause high CPU usage on the > evolution process, maybe due to some issues in the local storage, as > had

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-30 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 12:30 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > I copied one of the cron reports into an email and > attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail. Hi, I meant to use exactly the same message, not a newly created message, to not compare apples

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-30 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 14:16 -0500, Tim via evolution-list wrote: > epiphany > Failed to register: Timeout was reached Hi, it looks like a D-Bus problem, from the little the error message says. I'd open a bug in your distro against epiphany asking for an assistance to make it work/run.

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 00:39 +0200, Jarosław Rafa wrote: > How did you create that account? I relaunched Evolution (after cleaning out the file in Local)got the message I posted and was done. None of those choices you stated were even an option, or even appeared. Maybe it's because I still had

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Jarosław Rafa
W dniu śro, 29.06.2022 o godzinie 17∶16 -0500, użytkownik Tim McConnell via evolution-list napisał: > On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 00:03 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > So you again created "local_mbox" account as "Local delivery" > > (mbox) and not spool? > > I was never given a choice. It's what it

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 00:03 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > So you again created "local_mbox" account as "Local delivery" (mbox) > and not > spool? I was never given a choice. It's what it defaulted to. That is what was created. And I thought if I made a copy of the file and renamed it to

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 16:42:44 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > Well I followed the suggestion of hosing the file. > When I re-entered Evolution I received this message: > Evolution’s local mail format has changed. > Evolution’s local mail format has changed from mbox to Maildir. Your

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:56 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 15:52:23 Tim McConnell via evolution-list > pisze: > > On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:35 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > > Your previous setting was mbox, ie. "Local delivery". You can > > > keep > > > that, or > > > you

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 15:52:23 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:35 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Your previous setting was mbox, ie. "Local delivery". You can keep > > that, or > > you can set it to spool, ie. direct use of the system mbox. It's your > >

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:35 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Your previous setting was mbox, ie. "Local delivery". You can keep > that, or > you can set it to spool, ie. direct use of the system mbox. It's your > choice. You can try which one will work better for you. I'll try the spool setting,

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 15:20:07 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > ls -la /var/spool/mail/../mail > total 8 > drwxrwsr-x 2 root mail 4096 Jun 29 13:18 . > drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 May 19 18:51 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root mail0 Jun 24 12:43 root > -rw-rw 1 tmick mail0 Jun

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 21:45 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 13:44:09 Tim McConnell via evolution-list > pisze: > > 1. I don't know Evolution doesn't show the size. Running `mail`, > > `mailx` or `mutt` doesn't show any mail messages. > > This can mean you have set Evolution

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 13:44:09 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > 1. I don't know Evolution doesn't show the size. Running `mail`, > `mailx` or `mutt` doesn't show any mail messages. This can mean you have set Evolution account to "Local delivery", so it moves all mail from the system

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 13:34 -0500, Greg Oliver via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 12:43 PM Jaroslaw Rafa > wrote: > > Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 12:30:10 Tim McConnell via evolution-list > > pisze: > > > Unlikely but true, I copied one of the cron reports into an email > > > and > >

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 19:43 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > There are still a few *very basic* facts we don't know. > > 1) How large (average) are the messages that you have problem > > > displaying? > > 2) What type of local mail account does your Evolution use? "Local > > > delivery" > > (ie.

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Greg Oliver via evolution-list
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 12:43 PM Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 12:30:10 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > > Unlikely but true, I copied one of the cron reports into an email and > > attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail. > > My CPU stayed under

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 12:30:10 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > Unlikely but true, I copied one of the cron reports into an email and > attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail. > My CPU stayed under 35% usage when it was opened in gmail (IMAP) both > the body and

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 10:03 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 13:28 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list > wrote: > > It's just when I check Local mail the CPU goes nuts. > > Hi, > that sounds unlikely. Do you mean that if you copy exactly the same >

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 10:13 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > If I read it correctly, then the most time is spent in > > cairo_scaled_font_glyph_e(), which can be when WebKit renders the > > content. > > > Tim, what size fonts do you have defined for rendering the content? I > have, in the

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Pete Biggs
> > If I read it correctly, then the most time is spent in > cairo_scaled_font_glyph_e(), which can be when WebKit renders the > content. > Tim, what size fonts do you have defined for rendering the content? I have, in the past, had some very strange results with specific font sizes - like

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-29 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 13:28 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > It's just when I check Local mail the CPU goes nuts. Hi, that sounds unlikely. Do you mean that if you copy exactly the same message from the local storage to the IMAP account and view it in the IMAP account,

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-28 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 18:25 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 11:16 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list > wrote: > > And I got > > WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution > > > > (evolution:3466545): GLib-GIO-WARNING **:

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-28 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 11:16 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > And I got > WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution > > (evolution:3466545): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 11:07:41.789: Your > application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. > Consider

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-28 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 17:04 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Sorry if this is too obvious, but did you forget to remove the > \+newline? That command should be: > > WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution > > poc And I got WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 10:56 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > >    $ WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 \ > > evolution > > > Where do I put that? I tried it from a terminal and it caused a > traceback from the command not found program :-( Sorry if

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-28 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 10:30 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 11:13 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list > wrote: > > Well I run dkpg -l | grep WebKitGTK and get libjavascriptcoregtk- > > 4.1- > > 0:amd64, I'm not sure if that's what your after. > >

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-28 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:47 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 20:05 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Does your local mail system (I mean MTA, not Evolution) use mbox or > > Maildir? > No idea,it's what ever Debian defaults to. Exactly! > I've never messed

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-28 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 11:13 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > Well I run dkpg -l | grep WebKitGTK and get libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1- > 0:amd64, I'm not sure if that's what your after. Hi, I do not have a Debian machine handy. I think the WebKitGTK is called

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-27 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 20:05 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Does your local mail system (I mean MTA, not Evolution) use mbox or > Maildir? No idea,it's what ever Debian defaults to. I've never messed with those settings because I have never needed to. The local mail used to work just fine,

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-27 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 27.06.2022 o godz. 12:46:02 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > If I go into Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts it shows On this > computer as maildir and Local Host as mbox. I can't see where Evolution > is pointing to for Maildir because the "Edit" button is grayed out. the When

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-27 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 18:18 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > How does the mail get into the "On this computer" Inbox?  The reason > I > ask is because normally local mail gets put into a system spool file > (i.e. /var/spool/mail/) and it is read from there. The Evolution > "On this Computer" mail is

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-27 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Are you viewing them on the machine or via IMAP?  > ALL my mail is IMAP - it makes using multiple machines much saner. > I'm in "On This > Computer -> Inbox" I'm on Debian Testing(Bookworm). > How does the mail get into the "On this computer" Inbox? The reason I ask is because normally

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-27 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 08:43 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > This is suspicious. In that case I'd blame WebKitGTK process doing > some > odd thing while starting itself. I suppose you get a similar behavior > with another WebKitGTK application, like Epiphany, when opening an > empty

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:29 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > I've experienced the issue here and there with smaller messages with > lots of v-e-r-y long uwrappable lines. Hi, this is true, the message conversion is quite inefficient with long lines. Bye, Milan

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:35 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > If I open the local emails in a new window (double click > mostly) It will spawn a new PID that splits the CPU usage evenly > among the PIDs (yes still WebKItWebProcess) per window. Hi, that's a new behavior of

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-26 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sun, 2022-06-26 at 12:37 -0500, tmcconnell...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 23:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > I was clicking group reply and not using the drop down next to it, > > > Apparently it's not the same thing. > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences ->

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 23:13:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: >On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 22:43 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: >> Dnia 25.06.2022 o godz. 11:37:39 Pete Biggs pisze: >> > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on >> > replies means I only get the direct copy of your message

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Pete Biggs
> I was clicking group reply and not using the drop down next to it, > Apparently it's not the same thing. Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> Group reply goes only to mailing list if possible. Personally I also enable "Ignore Reply-to for mailing lists" > I looked at

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 22:43 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 25.06.2022 o godz. 11:37:39 Pete Biggs pisze: > > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on replies > > means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list > > version. > > Does your MTA do some

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:35 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > I was clicking group reply and not using the drop down next to it, > Apparently it's not the same thing. Clicking Group Reply will try to use Reply to List if possible, and fall back to Reply to All otherwise, which is

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 25.06.2022 o godz. 11:37:39 Pete Biggs pisze: > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on replies > means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list > version. Does your MTA do some kind of "message de-duplication"? In my case, when someone replies

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 12:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:37 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on > > replies > > means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the > > list > > version. This means

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:37 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on > replies > means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list > version. This means I don't get the list headers on the message so it > breaks my ability to

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 22:28 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:18 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 11:33:36 Tim McConnell via evolution-list > > pisze: > > > So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text??? So when I > > > reply > > > to this mail list/

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 11:33 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > > The place you read the message content is covered by the WebKitGTK. > > Everything is converted into HTML for viewing (and writing). > > How do I get it to stop hogging my CPU? > > You can try shorter logs/reports, but

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:37 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on > replies > means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list > version. This means I don't get the list headers on the message so it > breaks my ability to

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-25 Thread Pete Biggs
Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on replies means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list version. This means I don't get the list headers on the message so it breaks my ability to reply to the list and keep the list threading. On Fri,

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 00:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > The OP has asked a similar question in the past and he was given > various troubleshooting procedures to try.  Specifically Milan told > him > how to use gdb to get a back trace to see where the issue is. I missed the email where Milan sent

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 00:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:39 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 22:28:30 Pete Biggs pisze: > > > > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying local > > > > mail, even with very big messages. > > > >

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Pete Biggs
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:39 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 22:28:30 Pete Biggs pisze: > > > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying local > > > mail, even with very big messages. > > > > And I've never seen Evolution do it unless it's a

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 22:28:30 Pete Biggs pisze: > > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying local > > mail, even with very big messages. > > And I've never seen Evolution do it unless it's a multi-megabyte > message. Butt mutt does not try to convert plain text to

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Pete Biggs
> So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text???  > Yes. Those pretty little hyperlinked URLs in plain text messages that you can click on don't appear by magic. HTML is just a markup language and there happens to be lots of very mature systems for displaying HTML so why not leverage

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Pete Biggs
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:18 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 11:33:36 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > > So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text??? So when I reply > > to this mail list/ email in plain text it goes to HTML first (and yes I > > meant

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 11:33:36 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze: > So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text??? So when I reply > to this mail list/ email in plain text it goes to HTML first (and yes I > meant viewing)? So if I view the messages via mutt (or similar) it >

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 11:33 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > Apologies I assumed the list would think Debian's bugzilla, I thought > I > mentioned I was on Debian Bookworm (testing) And I forgot your for > all > distros, not just mine. >  

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 10:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 14:37 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list > wrote: > > It will use 35-95% of the CPU when I'm checking my local mail only. > > Hi, > it's not when checking the mail, but when viewing it. I

Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-24 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 14:37 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > It will use 35-95% of the CPU when I'm checking my local mail only. Hi, it's not when checking the mail, but when viewing it. I suppose the message is large, thus it takes it to some time to pre/post-process it.

[Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-23 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
Hi List, I have a curious problem, when I check my mail "on this computer" (aka local mail) which contains things like Cron job reports, apticron notices, etc. Or more simply put text based email sent by the system. I have a process called WebKitWebProcess that pegs my CPU. It will use 35 -95% of

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 12:51 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > ISTM that this is a fairly important thing to be able to do though. Hi, as always, it depends on the use case. To those whom do not print it's not a problem. > It's worth noting that saving attachments and mbox

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-16 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 10:51 +, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 12:17 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > I do not know the exact flatpak command, try to search > > for "flatpak override home access" or some such term. Once you'll > > set > > the

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-16 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 12:17 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > You can open the terminal in the sandbox with: > >    $ flatpak run --command=sh org.gnome.Evolution > > which should give you the same file system layout as the Evolution > itself sees. > That's interesting. It shows me

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 11:42 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > > I guess, and only guess, the "printed" files are stored > > there as well, but I can be wrong. > > > > It seems that they are not. Hi, it can be the chosen place is not persistent. I would try to store the

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-16 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 07:55 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > what exact errors, please? The virtual junk/trash folders gather > messages marked as junk/trash. Those in the server side Junk/Trash > real > folders do not be marked as such. As you have a patched version, let > Evolution

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-16 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 07:48 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > first, it would be: > >    $ WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution > > in the Flatpak case. > > An option is to have a wrapper script, or add an: > >    export WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 > > line into your

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-15 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 23:47 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > The newest version of the flatpak repo now works for me (3.44.1) but > I still see the errors if I have the "All Mail" folder subscribed > (using virtual folders for junk and trash), and cannot see any mail > in Junk if

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-15 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 01:01 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > >   WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution & > > > > (the sandbox is probably not going to be used anywhere else, but > > just in case I wouldn't disable a sandbox if not needed) > > I don't see a way to do this via a desktop

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-15 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-05-15 at 23:37 +0200, Ángel wrote: > No. You only need to remove this on evolution. Such as running it > from > a terminal with: > WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution & > > (the sandbox is probably not going to be used anywhere else, but just > in case I wouldn't disable a sandbox if

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-15 Thread Ángel
On 2022-05-14 at 22:14 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 22:43 +0200, Ángel wrote: > > prepend with WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 to set that environment > > variable. > > > > The Webkit bug is https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202363 > > Thanks. > > So to work around this in a

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-14 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 22:43 +0200, Ángel wrote: > prepend with WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 to set that environment variable. > > The Webkit bug is https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202363 Thanks. So to work around this in a convenient way (allowing desktop integration) it would be necessary to

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-14 Thread Ángel
On 2022-05-13 at 21:47 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > It also brings some questions which have been answered here before, > but > which I can't find. > > * When printing to a file, flatpak gives evolution a sandbox >filesystem. Where can I find this filesystem from outside the >sandbox,

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-13 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 23:39 +, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > I tried using the flatpak, but it failed with a crash in > a dependency, I'll try this again to see if that has been resolved. The newest version of the flatpak repo now works for me (3.44.1) but I still see the errors

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 08:33 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > [imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST (\Noinferiors \All) "/" "All Mail"' > [imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST (\Noinferiors \Junk) "/" "Spam"' Hi, the part between "()" are folder attributes. The \All, \Junk and other are understood by

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-13 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 06:10 +, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > Yes. That was essentially what I was doing, but wasn't sure of the > scope of the conversation between the machines; -C2 helps. It does not look wildly informative to me, but maybe it helps. thanks Dan $ grep -v Gmail

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-13 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 07:31 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > the 'LIST' in upper case was meant as a hint. Try: > >    $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution &>/tmp/log.txt > > let it start and show the folders, then close it, then run: > >    $ cat /tmp/log.txt | grep -C2

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 01:39 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-04-25 at 07:45 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > Could you paste a LIST response for the "All Mail" folder, please? > ... > I was unable to figure out exactly which lines of the log this >

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-05-12 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-04-25 at 07:45 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Not the server, but the Evolution. It needs to know to treat the "All > Mail" folder specifically. Could you paste a LIST response for the > "All > Mail" folder, please? The server can provide folder flags there, > which >

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-24 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-04-24 at 11:55 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > When I unset "Use a Real Folder for Junk" I end up seeing two copies > of each spam message in the evolution "Junk" folder that ends up > holding the spam. Hi, I believe it's because the message is in its real

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-24 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-04-22 at 07:36 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > when the IMAP account has set to use a real Junk folder (see the > account Properties->Defaults tab), then, any message marked as spam > is > moved to that folder, regardless where the message is stored (except > of > the

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-22 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-04-22 at 07:36 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > You can avoid the move when you disable real Junk folder in the > account > properties. Then you'll see two Junk/Spam folders, one from the > server, > the other one a virtual folder, which collects spam from the other >

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-04-22 at 01:04 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > Do you have any idea why evolution might be asking for the move? Hi, when the IMAP account has set to use a real Junk folder (see the account Properties->Defaults tab), then, any message marked as spam is moved

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-21 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 23:04 +, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > Though I do have a number of filter folders active Clarifying this: "Search folders" ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-21 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 23:50 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I know nothing about the Protonmail bidge server, but it looks to me > like Evo is asking the server to move the message, not the other way > round. The server is objecting for some reason. That's very helpful. Thanks. The move

Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 21:20 +, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > This log section is the conversation between evolution and an imap > server on localhost (specifically the protonmail bridge server) after > a > spam message has hit the server and the ensuing synchronisation. > > My

[Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log

2022-04-21 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
Hi, I would like some help understanding/confirming my understanding of a section of an evolution log output. I'm using an archaic versions, 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2, but that should not be an issue here given I just want to understand something rather than fix a behaviour. This log section is

Re: [Evolution] Help! Snc google contacts has stopped working

2022-01-23 Thread kaizubg--- via evolution-list
la, 2022-01-22 kello 16:03 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list kirjoitti: > On Sat, 2022-01-22 at 14:15 +, WowMathsSt via evolution-list > wrote: > > Evolution version 3.36.1-2  (on Lubuntu 20 desktop pc) > > Ever since yYesterday 2022Jan21, > > my *Evolution fails repeatedly to sync to my

Re: [Evolution] Help! Snc google contacts has stopped working

2022-01-22 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-01-22 at 14:15 +, WowMathsSt via evolution-list wrote: > Evolution version 3.36.1-2  (on Lubuntu 20 desktop pc) > Ever since yYesterday 2022Jan21, > my *Evolution fails repeatedly to sync to my Google Contacts*, Please check the mailing list archives. andre -- Andre Klapper  |  

[Evolution] Help! Snc google contacts has stopped working

2022-01-22 Thread WowMathsSt via evolution-list
Evolution version 3.36.1-2 (on Lubuntu 20 desktop pc) Ever since yYesterday 2022Jan21, my *Evolution fails repeatedly to sync to my Google Contacts*, *after it had been working ok* since I started using Evolution a few weeks ago. Error msg= - - - - Failed to connect address book “[MY GOOGLE

Re: [Evolution] Help with recovering e-mails

2022-01-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 17:23 +0100, j...@springwellapiaries.co.uk wrote: > I've just made a clean install of Fedora 35 and then Evolution 3.42.2 > (3.42.2-1.module_f35+13513+2c5bddf4) . Hi, I suppose you installed the Evolution through the GNOME Software. It can sometimes pick whichever

Re: [Evolution] Help with recovering e-mails

2022-01-13 Thread Ángel
On 2022-01-12 at 16:23 +, j...@springwellapiaries.co.uk wrote: > I'm sure it's been covered before, but I have failed to find it. > > I've just made a clean install of Fedora 35 and then Evolution > 3.42.2 (3.42.2-1.module_f35+13513+2c5bddf4) . > > I then realised I had forgotten to backup

Re: [Evolution] Help with recovering e-mails

2022-01-13 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 16:23 +, j...@springwellapiaries.co.uk wrote: > I'm sure it's been covered before, but I have failed to find it. > > I've just made a clean install of Fedora 35 and then Evolution 3.42.2 > (3.42.2-1.module_f35+13513+2c5bddf4) . How, in which format? > newly installed

[Evolution] Help with recovering e-mails

2022-01-13 Thread john
I'm sure it's been covered before, but I have failed to find it. I've just made a clean install of Fedora 35 and then Evolution 3.42.2 (3.42.2-1.module_f35+13513+2c5bddf4) . I then realised I had forgotten to backup evolution!*!! All my local e-mails contact etc are still in the /Home

Re: [Evolution] Help configuring debugging

2022-01-10 Thread Ángel
On 2022-01-10 Bridger Dyson-Smith wrote: > Using the notes here[1], I've set up a simple script to help start > Evolution: (...) Hello Bridger Note that in your script you were not exporting the variables, so evolution would not see them. You would want to either do export EWS_DEBUG=1 export

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