CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/compuserve_shut_down_by_aol/ Alas, poor Yorick, I knew him well… (sic) I suspect more than a few of us “old-timers” got our start on CompuServe or The Well… Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.co

RE: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Michael Hoffman
Its still alive as my brother uses it all the time. I guess it's now just a single server in a corner of an AOL data center. Mike From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: 08 July 2009 13:00 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CompuServe is gone... http://www.theregister.

RE: Experience with RU8?

2009-07-08 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Hehe -sc From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Experience with RU8? I had to call a customer and ask where some servers were last week... The servers listed in our systems as the EU servers. IBM did

Re: Experience with RU8?

2009-07-08 Thread vbs
Unfortunately my experience with RU8 was not good. OWA was working fine before RU8 and after when you would go to the site with I.E it would get a blank page. With Firefox I recieved a simple login box and once in my mailbox there were no icons. Uninstalling it returned to to a working condition a

RE: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Odd that it didn't get the same press coverage as Michael Jackson's funeral... From: Michael Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CompuServe is gone... Its still alive as my brother

Re: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Odd that a lot of newsworthy things haven't gotten the same press coverage in the last two weeks as Michael Jackson's death has.or is it. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Maglinger, Paul wrote: > Odd that it didn't get the same press coverage as Michael Jackson's > funeral... > > --

RE: Blackberry

2009-07-08 Thread Brumbaugh, Luke
I had to change the service account on a blackberry enterprise with exchange 2003 on sbs2003. After following about 10 pages of instructions and fighting the troubleshooting, I finally got mail to go through. I ran iesmtest and finally gave the service account full permission on mailboxes. I w

RE: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Damn. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CompuServe is gone... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/compuserve_shut_down_by_aol/

Re: Blackberry

2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Make sure the service account has receive as and send as permissions on each account that has a BB. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Brumbaugh, Luke < luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com> wrote: > I had to change the service account on a blackberry enterprise with > exchange 2003 on sbs2003. > > After f

Re: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread James Rankin
I am sick of hearing about Michael Jackson, to the extent that I had to have a quick rant on my blog about it. My wife is a big fan and her "he can do no wrong" approach is starting to boil my bag http://raythestray.blogspot.com/2009/07/brief-note-about-michael-bloody-jackson.html Sorry for the O

RE: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Randal, Phil
Whenever I hear the name "Michael Jackson" I think of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Structured_Programming Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefordshire Council | Deputy Chief Executive's Office | I.C.T. Services Division Thorn Office Centre, Rotherwas, Her

RE: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Tim Evans
The is the one I think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson_(writer) (aka the Beerhunter) Unfortunately, he's dead too ...Tim From: Randal, Phil [mailto:pran...@herefordshire.gov.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CompuServe is gone...

RE: Blackberry

2009-07-08 Thread Brumbaugh, Luke
That is done, in fact full so it can create a folder and delete it. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Blackberry Make sure the service account has receive as and send as permissions on each accou

I'm back...

2009-07-08 Thread Bill Lambert
Thanks to all for helping me with my missing posts yesterday. Turns out there was an issue with Sunbelt. My apologies to all for not following list protocol. From now on I'll contact Sunbelt Support directly. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of T

Re: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Nice blog. My sentiments exactly. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, James Rankin wrote: > I am sick of hearing about Michael Jackson, to the extent that I had to > have a quick rant on my blog about it. My wife is a big fan and her "he can > do no wrong" approach is starting to boil my bag > > >

RE: Blackberry

2009-07-08 Thread Jason Gurtz
Another gotcha is users who are members of administrative groups: Domain Admins, Enterprise Admins, etc... ~JasonG > -Original Message- > From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 09:35 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Blackb

Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
Recently we have run into an issue with Postini, and as always, their support staff seems to be lacking in explaining what is going on, so I turn to you fine people. We have some DL's setup in our Exchange/AD organization that have external contacts in them When we send to these DL's, and r

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Campbell, Rob
Are you getting an NDR from Postini? From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank Recently we have run into an issue with

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
Nope, we get nothing back. In fact, we didn't even know there was an issue until one of the recipients called our user because they never received the message Ronald Wulff Jr 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 From: Campbell

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Campbell, Rob
Then Postini is accepting the emails, and then dropping them. Ask them if they can give you one of the dropped emails, and check the headers against one that went through. From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:08

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
We tried that too, but they sent us back this. We are now waiting for a tech to contact us again >From Postini exprod8mx271.postini.com:2009/07/07 14:36:25 IP:199.125.201.23 SID:c77dc9170386697d To:daniel...@xx.com u207275662:i18522 To:rick...@xx.com u204931628:i18522 To:joseph...@

Cisco Unity 5.0 Conduit to Exchange 2003

2009-07-08 Thread David.Ricci
I built a new exchange server but I guess I forgot to add the conduit to unity 5.0. I have ent 2003 echange. Does anyone have the instructions and what I need to do to fix this so voice mails flow to our exchange properly. Thank you, David

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Campbell, Rob
You could try asking for the log entry and see if they send you the headers. From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being bl

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
LOL, that may be worth a try Ronald Wulff Jr 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE

RE: Blackberry

2009-07-08 Thread Brumbaugh, Luke
Yep, I took service account and users out of protected groups. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Another gotcha is users who are members of administrative groups

Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joe Heaton
How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning, how far back are you keeping? A couple of days, a week, a month, 6 months? Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
5 days On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Joe Heaton wrote: > How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? > Meaning, how far back are you keeping? A couple of days, a week, a month, 6 > months? > > > > Joe Heaton > > AISA > > Employment Training Panel > > 1100 J Street, 4

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread paul chinnery
2 weeks Subject: Backup generations Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:39:22 -0700 From: jhea...@etp.ca.gov To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning, how far back are you keeping? A couple of days, a week, a

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
+1 on the 2 weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, paul chinnery wrote: > 2 weeks > > > -- > Subject: Backup generations > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:39:22 -0700 > From: jhea...@etp.ca.gov > To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > > How many generations of your

RE: Very Vague Computer Slow Down

2009-07-08 Thread Mousa Hamad
All - So I was originially having this problem, have switched all the lists to come to a seperate gmail account so that they more easily managable... Steve Hart was kind enough provide this insight and there were a few others who supplied some tools to help me root out which service running under

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Reimer, Mark
One more for two weeks. Mark From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations +1 on the 2 weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, paul chinnery wrote: 2 weeks

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joe Heaton
Is that 2 weeks worth of dailies, or 5 dailies and 1 weekly? -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations +1 on the 2 weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, paul chinnery wrote: > 2 w

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Harry Singh
2 weeks of dailies here. On 7/8/09, Joe Heaton wrote: > Is that 2 weeks worth of dailies, or 5 dailies and 1 weekly? > > -Original Message- > From: Sherry Abercrombie > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:04 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Backup generations > > +1 on the

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Ens
I have two weeks of dailies, monthlies and a yearly as well...just for sh!ts and giggles. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Joe Heaton wrote: > How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? > Meaning, how far back are you keeping? A couple of days, a week, a month, 6 > mo

Re: CompuServe is gone...

2009-07-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/compuserve_shut_down_by_aol/ Wow. This marks the passing of an age. Also the passing of email addresses that look like phone numbers, heh. :) > I suspect more than a few of us “old-timers” got o

Prevent exe files from being stripped off in Outlook

2009-07-08 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Up until 3 days ago, our users were able to receive exe attachments in their email. I know that there is a registry change that can be made for Outlook on the client level, but I'm pretty sure there was a method for allowing it on entire enterprise through Exchange. I want to say that it involved

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Joe Heaton wrote: > How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? > Meaning, how far back are you keeping?  A couple of days, a week, a month, 6 > months? We're so small everything still fits on one backup tape, so it goes in with our regula

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
Oddly enough, we seem to have figured this out. It seems that when some of our DL's were created, they were checked to "Not send delivery reports" That was blanking out the return path on the messages, and just leaving the from field populated. Postini must have recently changed something

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
IMHO, Exchange backups are always a full db backup, there is no incremental. The DB changes every day. I keep Email backups for 2 weeks, no permanent email backups are kept. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Joe Heaton wrote: > Is that 2 weeks worth of dailies, or 5 dailies and 1 weekly? > >

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
Agreed. Two weeks of full database and log volume backups Ronald Wulff Jr 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin

RE: Prevent exe files from being stripped off in Outlook

2009-07-08 Thread Carl Houseman
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/orkXP/HA011364471033.aspx Carl -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Prevent exe files from being stripped off in Outlook Up until 3 days ago, o

Re: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Wulff Jr, Ronald J. wrote: > That was blanking out the return path on the messages, and just > leaving the from field populated. Normally, a null reverse-path is used only for DSNs, but spammers sometimes set a null reverse-path on their spam. Postini's system wa

Re: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Maybe some spammers had signed up with Postini in an effort to undermine Postini's engine? I've noted a marked increase in spam getting through to my gmail inbox in the last few weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Wulff Jr, Ronald J. wrote: > Yeah, that makes sense, I'm just not sure why Po

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread lists
Full backups only. Keep for 30 days then keep the first day of every month for a year. Cheers. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations I have two weeks of dailies, monthlies and a y

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Kurt Buff
Our is a full backup via TSM. We keep 5 generations of each item backed up - the full database counts as a single item, and it's backed up each day, so it's in effect 5 days. However, we're implementing SEA, and keeping the last 3 years of data in that, too. Kurt On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:39, Jo

RE: Prevent exe files from being stripped off in Outlook

2009-07-08 Thread Maglinger, Paul
That's it! Thanks! -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Prevent exe files from being stripped off in Outlook http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/orkXP/HA011364471033.aspx Car

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
Yeah, that makes sense, I'm just not sure why Postini just started acting up with these messages, but who really knows what goes one there Ronald Wulff Jr 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 -Original Message- From: Ben Scot

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Don Kuhlman
Is everyone still using tape for these keepers or something else? My small client has their stuff in a less than clean factory environment (the office where the servers are is part of the factory but still dirty) and I can't keep tape drives working reliably. Thanks Don K   ___

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Don Guyer
We do 2 weeks on disk, then put that to tape for a month. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Glaman, Mark
21 days. No archives Mark _ From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Posted At: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:39 AM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: Backup generations Subject: Backup generations How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning,

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joe Pochedley
We keep a week's worth of backups on disk, and a month's worth on tape... The feeling is that the most recent is what we'd want to restore quickly and anything older isn't going to be a critical restore request (especially since our deleted retention period is 30 days anyhow). Why not pick up

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Wow I feel like the exception. I started doing 5 week rotations of tapes long before exchange came along. It just has stuck with us. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
I'm using RDX cartridges. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Don Kuhlman wrote: > Is everyone still using tape for these keepers or something else? > > My small client has their stuff in a less than clean factory environment > (the office where the servers are is part of the factory but still dirt

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
BCV splits and then tape. But obviously that doesn't help for small customers Ronald Wulff Jr 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:46 PM To: MS-E

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Don Andrews
Hmm, does that mean that postini won't accept server generated rejections (i.e. with null return path)? From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Postini blocking b

RE: Postini blocking based on ENV sender field being blank

2009-07-08 Thread Knoch, James W
The Postini feature is called "Null Sender Disposition" and is a feature and that can be enabled/disabled at will. It is intended as one of the ways to combat the NDRs generated by spammers forging your e-mail addresses. Depending on what class of service the company is using (through a reseller

Duplicate posts

2009-07-08 Thread Brian Dwyer
Is anyone else receiving 2 copies of every post to this list? Brian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from c

RE: Duplicate posts

2009-07-08 Thread Glaman, Mark
Nope. It must be a new feature just for you. _ From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Posted At: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:05 PM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: Duplicate posts Subject: Duplicate posts Is anyone else receiving 2 copies of every post to this

Re: Duplicate posts

2009-07-08 Thread David
Once or twice a day I see duplicates but that's alland usually on a sender's initial post. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Brian Dwyer wrote: > > > Is anyone else receiving 2 copies of every post to this list? > > > > > > Brian > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous c

RE: Duplicate posts

2009-07-08 Thread Matt Moore
It happens off and on, I thought it was just hotmail... _ From: Glaman, Mark [mailto:mdgla...@bechtel.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Duplicate posts Nope. It must be a new feature just for you. _ From: Brian Dwy

RE: Duplicate posts

2009-07-08 Thread Don Andrews
I have seen this randomly in the past but not currently. From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Duplicate posts Is anyone else receiving 2 copies of every post t

RE: Duplicate posts

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Hart
I had an out-of-control, misbehaving Outlook rule that created seven copies of each post. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Brian Dwyer mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au>> wrote: Is anyone else receiving 2 copies of every post to this list? [cid:453291322@08072009-1DCB] Brian -- This

Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Cesare' A. Ramos
Hope everyone is doing good. I have a question for the peanut gallery.. What are the thoughts on running an MS Exchange message store from a mapped drive. We have a scenario that the client has a iSCSI SAN that currently does not have a direct connection to the desired MS Exchange server. Th

RE: Duplicate posts

2009-07-08 Thread Steven M. Caesare
No. No. -sc -sc From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Duplicate posts Is anyone else receiving 2 copies of every post to this list? Brian -- This message has been scanned

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Steven M. Caesare
That's a database being accessed via SMB/CIFS. If Exchange even allowed that (which I doubt), it's not going o be performant. Or supported, I believe. -sc From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Tho

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joe Heaton
We use an online service, uploading overnight. We have two separate Exchange backups. The server(database), and a mapi backup(messages). -Original Message- From: Don Kuhlman Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations Is everyo

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread lists
Run setup and see if it will allow it...I doubt it. Cheers. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive... Hope everyone is doing good. I have a questi

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
That begs the question, "why not set up a connection to the server with the MS iSCSI initiator?" From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to m

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Glaman, Mark
I don't think it will work. Here is the question... Are network drives still mapped when you log off of the server? I don't think so. Mark WTP/RPP Richland, Wa _ From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On Behalf Of lists Posted At: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:59 PM Po

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Holly sh!t, What size of pipe do you have and how small is your db? I wish the public paid for my bandwidth :) After our most recent tape library failed, we gave up on tapes, too costly. I now use vss and scripts to snapshot the db, and replicate only differences across street (fiber) and to one

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
It won't work. Period. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive... Hope everyone is doing good. I have a question for the peanut gallery

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Harry Singh
VSS snapshots have the ability to merge differences/deltas in an exchange mdb and log file, respectively? I remember differentials being only as good as the last full, but if VSS can merge deltas into the original mdb, that must conserve a significant throughput strain. On 7/8/09, Joseph L. Casale

Re: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Because some of the really entry level iSCSI devices only support one server/host (DroboPro)? On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Kim Longenbaugh wrote: > That begs the question, “why not set up a connection to the server with > the MS iSCSI initiator?” > > > -- > > *Fro

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
I was doing backups "across the wire" to my Internet provider almost two years ago. Granted, I was on MPLS fiber, and they didn't charge me extra for the bandwidth for the backup. Regardless - I think what lots of folks should begin considering is this: 1] what is your deleted item retention se

OT Annoyance was: Re: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Kurt Buff
Don't mean to start a flame war, nor to dis you in particular, Cesare, but... On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 15:45, Cesare' A. Ramos wrote: > > ** Think before you print this message. ** This tag, and others of similar wording, are one of the most annoying things I see these days. Having it affixed to e

Re: OT Annoyance was: Re: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Is it OK if I print this out? On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Don't mean to start a flame war, nor to dis you in particular, Cesare, > but... > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 15:45, Cesare' A. Ramos wrote: > > > > ** Think before you print this message. ** > > > This tag, and others

Re: OT Annoyance was: Re: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Kurt Buff
Sure, why not? If it saves just one child... Heh. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 17:42, Jonathan Link wrote: > Is it OK if I print this out? > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> >> Don't mean to start a flame war, nor to dis you in particular, Cesare, >> but... >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 20

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I use rsync :) VSS snaps the db at its current state, then rsync transfers only the delta to the two remote copies, while doing this it verifies the integrity compared at least to the current snap. Given the zfs snaps on the copy side, it's pretty bloody cool, if I need more retention I just add to

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Harry Singh
That is way cool. =) Maybe i can pick your brain, Joseph, a little bit offline about this setup. if you don't mind, of course. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > I use rsync :) > VSS snaps the db at its current state, then rsync transfers only the > delta to the two remote

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
The only way to verify an Exchange backup is to use eseutil (or the equivalent API). From: Joseph L. Casale [jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations I use rsync :) VSS

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Andy Shook
What about GoExchange!? :) Shook -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations The only way to verify an Exchange backup is to use eseutil (or the equivalen

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
So really, I could mount the zfs share that rsync dumped it into via cifs and check the backup with a WinXP wkst with the admin tools then, hey? Do they install enough to do this, or given the ESE requirements could I even do that unless it was same os/patch level? jlc -Original Message-

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Shizaam, think of all the time I wasted with my setup! Why didn't I think of this:) -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations What about GoExchange!? :) Shook

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
Does the refrigerator light stay on when you close the door..:) From: Glaman, Mark [mailto:mdgla...@bechtel.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive... I don't think it will work. Here is the question...

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
Yes, the admin tools will do it. I think actually, you only need the eseutil executable and the eseutil dll. From: Joseph L. Casale [jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generati

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I am guessing since he said san its not a drobo, lol, but more of a topology/segment issue. Does anyone actually use a drobo on an exchange server? Wow... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Thoughts

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
Troll. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations What about GoExchange!? :) Shook -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smit

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Andy Shook
Swing dancin' poopy-head. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Troll. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak1

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Hall, Stuart
Mapped drives exist within the user session. We ran into that issue with BackupExec which runs as a service - you can't back up to mapped drives (which screwed us a little for the non iSCSI NAS) because they don't exist for the service. Would it not be easier to just connect it as an iSCSI

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
lol... -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Swing dancin' poopy-head. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
You are just jealous that I can walk and chew gum at the same time. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Swing dancin' poopy-head. -Original Mess

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Andy Shook
Troll. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations You are just jealous that I can walk and chew gum at the same time. _

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
That is what the Billy Goat's Gruff called me. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Troll. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz-ftFqmMHg -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations That is what the Billy Goat's Gruff called me. ___

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread Steven M. Caesare
If it's a UNC light, then yes. -sc From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive... Does the refrigerator light stay on when yo

RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive...

2009-07-08 Thread lists
Nope. TSR. Cheers. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Thoughts on running MS Exchange to mapped drive... If it's a UNC light, then yes. -sc From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@opti