RE: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Webster
> So, the answer is, as usual, "It Depends." I am surprised Citrix didn't Trademark the phrase "It Depends" since that is the answer to almost any question related to Citrix! Webster > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Subject: Re: Um, Ouch... > > Reg

Re: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Kurt Buff
Regardless of your answer to that question, what makes you think it's going to be just an address book next time? You aren't saying that there won't be a next time, are you? Of course, if you're in a highly competitive industry, a list of external contacts can say a *lot*, and what it reveals abo

RE: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Roger Scudder
The thought of having an address book stolen would be very upsetting to any of my clients. In fact this is exactly the sort of thing that keeps me working maintaining in-house servers. Roger Scudder -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday

RE: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Carl Houseman
Today an address book. Tomorrow... ? This is just a teaser of things to come. Carl -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, Ouch... How important is an address book

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Campbell, Rob
I'm still not happy about the weird things the EMS does because it has to get all SOAPy and pretend there's a cloud between my workstation and the Exchange server in the next room. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Su

Re: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Jonathan Link
In the context of an address book, those are the two common items between an address book and a tax return... And yes, more items are stored in the address book than those... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Don Andrews wrote: > I think there can be LOTs more than just email address, name & add

RE: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Don Andrews
I think there can be LOTs more than just email address, name & address in there. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, Ouch... It could be small, or it could be

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Don Andrews
I wonder if MS' answer is "gee, you don't need BES or RIM for that matter - just expose your mail system to the internet - what? - can't get to your other intranet servers? - just expose them too - it should all be open" or something... From: Don Ely [mailto:do

Re: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Jonathan Link
And then having to report to clients that you've had a data breach... What's the attendant damage going to be from that? On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Campbell, Rob < rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net> wrote: > I think the major concern is that there was an unauthorized access of one > client

RE: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Campbell, Rob
I think the major concern is that there was an unauthorized access of one client's data by another client. That is was "just an address book" doesn't really do much to repair that loss of confidence. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wedne

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2010-12-22 Thread Jonathan Link
It could be small, or it could be big. IRS 7216 was updated to match current market trends in efiling, outsourcing, etc for tax preparers. It covers the disclosure of tax return information. What is tax return information? Information on the return, such as name and address. Is it stupid to be

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Don Ely
I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had th

RE: Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchang

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDA

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Don Ely
Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow wrote: > Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) > -- > Sent using BlackBerry > > > *F

Um, Ouch...

2010-12-22 Thread Kurt Buff
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RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
Yes. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM suppo

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Damien Solodow
Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx wit

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread My New Display Name for Bob. :)
They are supposed to since MS doesn't really like CDO anymore. And RIM has numerous support calls going right now with BES and 2010 installs... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Campbell, Rob" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:26:18 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issu

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Campbell, Rob
Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 b

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Jonathan Link
IF there wasn't, I'd be disappointed. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Campbell, Rob < rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net> wrote: > There’s BACON? > > > > > > > > *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:31 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Campbell, Rob
There's BACON? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you th

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Webster
LOL, that is great. Michael "The Refrigerator" Smith I've always thought Michael was one cool character. Actually, a frig removes heat and doesn't "make" things cold. So MBS actually takes the heat off of poor common folk and makes us just look cool to our bosses and peers. Thanks Frig.

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Bill Songstad
Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > The “assumption” of “Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine” goes a

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Bill Songstad
dunno. will give it a go. just found this article hidden in technet. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee633455.aspx It suggests that the Outlook 2010 requirement was only for Pre SP1. So that could be my savior. I'll try uninstalling the Outlook and running the import. Hpefully my o

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
The "assumption" of "Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine" goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It's no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58

Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Gavin Wilby
Thats how I did it on my last Exchange 2007 migration. Gavin. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Sobey, Richard A wrote: > Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an > elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? > -- > *From:

RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? From: bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] on behalf of Bill Songstad

to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010

2010-12-22 Thread Bill Songstad
situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server f

RE: Cert required for 2010

2010-12-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
It makes life a lot easier to use a SAN cert. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: phil levine [mailto:plevin...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cert required for 2010 Quick questi

Cert required for 2010

2010-12-22 Thread phil levine
Quick question about Certificates; do i need a SAN cert if i want to combine OWA, OWA for 2003 with the automatic redirect and Outlook anywhere or will the regular cert I have work?   Thanks.   Phil   --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_fo