nd Stripes."
Woodrow Wilson
-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISINTEG question.
I'd agree with that
I recently had an issue with a corrupt database, albeit a very s
ad()' . There was a temptation for a second to run eseutil
and isinteg on the database for a fix but certainly everything ide been
taught and read was that these tools (isinteg particularly) can be abrasive
to the database and potentially cause more issues. In my situation I was
without a decent
If you are not sure where to find the last integer database ? You have to move
mailboxes to a new store and so on.
In any case happened to me just once to use eseutil and isinteg and it was
successful. The db was small (4gb) so I could easily make a copy of edb and stm
files before operations
Microsoft SQL = Blackstone at the Blue Oyster
Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISINTEG question.
Other than the specific
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-Original Message-
From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: R: ISINTEG question.
I don't have experience on other mail servers, but I am sure there are other
What's complicated about running a restore?
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From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: R: ISINTEG question.
I don't have experience on other mail servers, but I am sure there are o
I don't have experience on other mail servers, but I am sure there are other
less complicate to repair and/or restore
GuidoElia
HELPPC
-Messaggio originale-
Da: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 4 gennaio 2008 15.02
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: IS
Yeppers.
Ironically, repairing is destructive and you will lose data.
It's a salvage operation.
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISINTEG question.
Online recovery i
Online recovery is the first resort (i.e., letting the database engine play
back it's logfiles). I would consider recovering from backup then playing
back logfiles to be the second resort. Finally, database repair (eseutil +
isinteg) to be the last resort.
IMHO. YMMV.
Regards,
Michael B.
Yeah, I spent a lot of time at that "Resort" back in 2003 and 2004.
DOH!
-Original Message-
From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: R: ISINTEG question.
Yes its well known, but even for 2007 isn
Yes its well known, but even for 2007 isn't a FIRST resort ?
GuidoElia
HELPPC
-Messaggio originale-
Da: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 4 gennaio 2008 13.17
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: ISINTEG question.
Eseutil's /p option (repair
Eseutil's /p option (repair) followed by isinteg. But it should really be
considered a "method of last resort".
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-Original Message-
From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January
Practically there is no real option to get a Exchange database repaired ? No
Ese no isinteg so what ?
GuidoElia
HELPPC
-Messaggio originale-
Da: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: giovedì 3 gennaio 2008 19.16
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: ISINTEG question
rather then use what is essentially a broken store in
production.
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISINTEG question.
Urg. Non-trivial to explain.
I tried to find a public
rivial to explain.
>
> I tried to find a public document that describes some of what isinteg does
> on a technical level, but couldn't.
>
> Historically, isinteg was a debugging tool for PSS. It allowed them to scan
> a store and in the case of corruption, basically get rid of th
Urg. Non-trivial to explain.
I tried to find a public document that describes some of what isinteg does
on a technical level, but couldn't.
Historically, isinteg was a debugging tool for PSS. It allowed them to scan
a store and in the case of corruption, basically get rid of the offending
Michael,
I guess the term "detuned" is in question.
By running isinteg, how does it "detune" the indexes?? By what means are
the indexes kept "intune"?
I'm curious also.
Thanks,
Tom
-Original Message-
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th S
You can run isinteg on a dismounted database - pretty much ANY
dismounted database - and it will give you warnings. This is because
isinteg is a utility and not a database engine itself. You can tell
isinteg to fix those warnings, and run it multiple times until there
aren't any more war
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISinteg
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q301460
And
http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/deployment
Conversation: ISinteg
Subject: ISinteg
Does anyone have any links or white papers on ISinteg & the switches
that can be used & when to use them for E2k?
Thanks
Brien
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_cha
Does anyone have any links or white papers on ISinteg & the switches that can be used
& when to use them for E2k?
Thanks
Brien
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Look for event ID 1221 in the application event log.
William
-Original Message-
From: Brenda Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
How do you determine how much white space your database has
How do you determine how much white space your database has?
Thank you.
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
ication that the backup ran
--VERY important!)
Sorry folks, not enough time to give you the long version :-)
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 19 April 2002 16:52
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Esutil/Isinteg
Subject: RE: Esutil/I
She heard it Kevin- - - loud and clear :).
Mal
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Okay I will quote you on that
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller
Okay I will quote you on that
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Just tell them Mal, William, Kevin and Don say it is a bad idea. What
more do they need?
Look at
WebDesign, GO here!
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Thanks for everyone's response, now if I can just convince the powers
that be.
-Original Me
Thanks for everyone's response, now if I can just convince the powers that
be.
-Original Message-
From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Thank you.
-Original Message-
Thank you.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
WOW! Thanks very much.
--Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics
/Isinteg
Here are excerpts of postings from people who know exchange very well.
Print this out and give it to the guys who are pestering you with the
idea of using eseutil on a regular basis.
Mal
If you are running out of disk space AND there is no whitespace in the
database, as indicated by
NE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E
8S5
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Search the archives, this is discussed just about wee
Search the archives, this is discussed just about weekly. If you find that
you aren't finding it in the archives, I'm sure there are those of us who
have archived copies of this list that will resend a copy of the why's and
why not's for
the messages I
read about these utilities were in reference to using them when you had
problems.
I will keep looking
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
MS Support did not
http://www.tripathimaging.com
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
I don't think it's necessary to use them at least not on a weekly basis but
I am having a hard time co
gular basis.
Neil
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 19 April 2002 14:24
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Esutil/Isinteg
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
I don't think it's necessary to use them at least not on a weekly basis
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason?
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Sorry I
Why do you want to use those tools? Any particular reason?
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Esutil/Isinteg
Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be
Sorry I must have missed that message, guess I'll be using scripts. I was
hoping for more feedback on not using Eseutil and Isinteg regularly. Anyone
have any good references on these topics?
Julie
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wedn
How about:
10 eseutil /d
20 isinteg -fix -alltests
30 goto 10
Should "routinely run" the utilities nicely!
:-)
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 17 April 2002 23:23
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Esutil/Isint
uot;;
As with 5.5, running those utilities do little to nothing to benefit a
healthy exchange server installation.
William
-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Esutil/Isinteg
Tes
Testing Win2K SP2 /E2K SP2.
Routinely ran the Eseutil /d and Isinteg -fix -alltests on my Exchange 5.5
server. (long story)
Does anyone have suggestions or comments about doing the same with Exchange
2000, from research I have done this doesn't appear to be a good idea but I
need more to
Title: Message
HE
said ARRGHServe, LOL
-Original Message-From: HOLLIDAY, Eric
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:51
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Arcserve2000
and ISINTEG
Thank you all, for your input. As usual, I can count on this
orporate Information SystemsLogistics Management
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-Original Message-From: Don Ely
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:27
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Arcserve2000
and ISINTEG
One
issue to realize when running this utility,
From: John Matteson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:26
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Arcserve2000
and ISINTEG
Microsoft's documents call for ISINTEG to process at about 10 Gbytes
per hour, but it all depends on what resources are free on you
Microsoft's documents call for ISINTEG to process at about 10 Gbytes per
hour, but it all depends on what resources are free on your machine while
running ISINTEG. I have a 60 Gbyte store, running on a 5 disk RAID, Dual 800 Mhz
processors with a Gig of RAM. It takes about 9 hours to m
-Original Message-From: John Matteson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:28
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Arcserve2000
and ISINTEG
I
will assume that you have the Exchange agent installed, activated, licensed by
CA and blessed by the
I will
assume that you have the Exchange agent installed, activated, licensed by CA and
blessed by the local spirit leader.
Assuming that you have enough downtime available, I would run ISINTEG
-PRI/pub -Fix -TEST ALLTESTS
on the
information store to ensure that you have any corruption in
.
CJP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001
2:20 PM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Arcserve2000 and ISINTEG
Environment: Exchange
(Enterprise) 5.5 SP4
Hardware: Compaq Proliant ML530 dual Xeon processors, 1Gb RAM, 34Gb
I would be
running a backup with NTBackup WAY before I would be attempting to run ISINTEG. Given the knoweldeg (or lack or it)
exhibited by various CA techs, I trust them about as far as I can throw
them. Now, if you can’t get a good
backup with NTBackup, then maybe it’s time to call
is:(E8602 Failed to read from database.
(DBNAME=Information store.EC=)
Now Here's where it gets interesting -
After telling us to run ISINTEG with the -patch option (which didn't fix the
problem), CA support is now telling us to run: ISINTEG -PRI -FIX
-TEST and ISINTEG -PUB -FIX -TEST.
When you run ISINTEG -FIX against a database, the following happens:
1. The databases have pointers to the information in the database, such as
mail messages, folders, etc. Running isinteg -fix removes pointers that
point to information that is no longer there (usually this is pointers to
Q183400 is good, Resource Guide for Exchange chapter 8 is excellent.
-Original Message-
From: Richardson, Kendall (UNISYS)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: isinteg tests
Greetings. I have Exchange 55, SP3 running
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To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: isinteg tests
Greetings. I have Exchange 55, SP3 running on NT4, 6a. Over the weekend I
ran eseutil to clean up 3.5GB of free/white space in the info store after
moving lo
Greetings. I have Exchange 55, SP3 running on NT4, 6a. Over the weekend I
ran eseutil to clean up 3.5GB of free/white space in the info store after
moving lots of email around for users. I also ran isinteg in test mode just
to see what information it provides (I had never used it before). Test
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