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2008-03-29 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
ay, March 30, 2008 3:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space Your databases were on a dedicated drive and file level defrag made a significant difference? -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturd

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2008-03-29 Thread William Lefkovics
And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes." Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Neil Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming spac

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2008-03-29 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
u to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes." Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space Perhaps I misunderst

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2008-03-29 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes." Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Neil Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming spac

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2008-03-28 Thread William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space If you have plenty of disk space, then the only NEGATIVE is that your backups take longer, as they still back up the empty space. A positive is that Exchange doesn't

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2008-03-28 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
quot; Woodrow Wilson > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:00 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: reclaiming space > > If you have plenty of disk space, then the only NEGAT

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2008-03-28 Thread Neil Johnson
2008 07:05 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space Then obviously your experiences have been different from mine. Once I did a physical defrag of the hard disk, I chopped a half hour off the backup time to tape, on line database maintenance completed more quickly and my users

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2008-03-28 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
March 27, 2008 8:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space [snip]...once you've completed the ESEUTIL defrag, like Perfect Disk 2008. That will help you get the file into a contiguous condition and help your disk performance quite a bit.[snip] Exchange IO is random.

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2008-03-27 Thread Neil Johnson
[snip]...once you've completed the ESEUTIL defrag, like Perfect Disk 2008. That will help you get the file into a contiguous condition and help your disk performance quite a bit.[snip] Exchange IO is random. Having a contiguous EDB doesn't make any difference, except to streaming backup times an

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2008-03-26 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space If you do this, you will lose deleted item retention for those users. Not sure if that's a negative for you, but it is for us. From: Kevin Miller

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2008-03-26 Thread Matt Lathrum
If you do this, you will lose deleted item retention for those users. Not sure if that's a negative for you, but it is for us. From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space Move eve

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2008-03-26 Thread Tom Strader
Thanks John. I need a jolt or two every now and then. -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space John H. Matteson, Jr

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2008-03-26 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
reclaiming space ...and I deserve it all, BWahahahahaha!! From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space People who use caps and bold fonts get what they des

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2008-03-26 Thread Thomas W Shinder
qb7> MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA) From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space

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2008-03-26 Thread Tom Strader
Oh my god, an intelligent response for Mr. Shinder. Totally unusual!!! From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space blech Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site

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2008-03-26 Thread Tom Strader
...and I deserve it all, BWahahahahaha!! From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve! ;-P

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2008-03-26 Thread Thomas W Shinder
a Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space People who use caps and bold fonts get what they deserve! ;-P On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:42 AM,

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2008-03-26 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
5, 2008 8:41 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: reclaiming space > > It's not like he said GoExchange. > > > > > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issu

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2008-03-26 Thread Tom Strader
GOD FORBID From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2008-03-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
Nope, you understood correctly. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space Not sure why

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2008-03-26 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space Great Minds Think Alike Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigB

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2008-03-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
ange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space GMTA From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space Personally, I'd move the rest of the mailboxes and delete the old DB... Less time involved... On Tu

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2008-03-25 Thread William Lefkovics
Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space As I recall, one of Microsoft's criteria for doing an Offline Defragmentation was that you had greater than 20% whitespace in the current message database file. Yes, once the offline defragmentation is completed, you will have zero white space and th

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2008-03-25 Thread Amer Karim
(ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March-26-08 12:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space As I recall, one of Microsoft's criteria for doing an Offline Defragmentation was that you had greater than 20% whitespace in the current message database file. Yes, once t

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2008-03-25 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space Or brick level backups. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B.

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2008-03-25 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
he Stars and Stripes." Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space If you have plenty of disk space, then the only NEGATIVE is that your backups take l

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2008-03-25 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
es Subject: RE: reclaiming space GMTA From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space Personally, I'd move the rest of the mailboxes and delete the old DB... Less time involved... On Tue, Mar 25,

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2008-03-25 Thread William Lefkovics
e the Exchange version. Though, I guess with 122GB moved, it had to be Exchange 2003 Enterprise and he probably hasn't used all his database options. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclai

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2008-03-25 Thread Barsodi.John
Or brick level backups. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, Mar

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2008-03-25 Thread William Lefkovics
It's not like he said GoExchange. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space We really need to train people not to say that any more. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exc

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2008-03-25 Thread Michael B. Smith
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space Well, no. This is exactly the right case for an offline defrag. If you move a lot of mailboxes from a store then that is when you might cons

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2008-03-25 Thread William Lefkovics
backing up excessive white space on that source server. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space Yes we do... On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

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2008-03-25 Thread Michael B. Smith
e MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space I've always been curious and I've never been able to find a straight answer. Is there any ben

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2008-03-25 Thread Sean Martin
ds, > > > > > > > > Michael B. Smith > > > > MCSE/Exchange MVP > > > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > > > > > > > *From:* Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday,

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2008-03-25 Thread Don Ely
Exchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > > > *From:* Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: reclaiming space > > > > You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the sp

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2008-03-25 Thread Michael B. Smith
We really need to train people not to say that any more. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: reclaiming space

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2008-03-25 Thread Don Ely
That they do On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GMTA > > > > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:09 AM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: reclaiming space > >

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2008-03-25 Thread Kevin Miller
Move everyone else out to a new database, then delete the old one. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: reclaiming space I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to another in hopes of r

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2008-03-25 Thread Kevin Miller
GMTA From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: reclaiming space Personally, I'd move the rest of the mailboxes and delete the old DB... Less time involved... On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Sherry Abercr

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2008-03-25 Thread Don Ely
Personally, I'd move the rest of the mailboxes and delete the old DB... Less time involved... On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You will need to do an offline defrag to shrink the database. That would > be eseutil with the appropriate commands in pl

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2008-03-25 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
You will need to do an offline defrag to shrink the database. That would be eseutil with the appropriate commands in place IIRC. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space. > > > > -Andrew > > > > *From:* SM

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2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Greene
You need to do an offline defrag to reclaim the space. -Andrew From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: reclaiming space I have moved a couple hundred mailboxes from one Exchange server to another in h