RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-15 Thread Sean Rector
Yes, I use Diskeeper - on all my servers. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Defragmenting servers Does anyone use tools like diskeeper to defrag their nondatabas

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-15 Thread Michael B. Smith
It provides a marginal speed improvement (assuming you defrag regularly). I like MyDefrag (used to be JKDefrag). It's free and it's fast. -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Defragme

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread David.Ricci
d.ri...@hwinstitute.com SERVICE. INNOVATION. RESULTS. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers It provides a marginal speed improvement (assuming you de

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Kurt Buff
t; > -Original Message- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:00 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers > > It provides a marginal speed improvement (assuming you defrag > regularly).

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Michael B. Smith
ge Admin Issues Subject: Re: Defragmenting servers The really old school notion is to have a file system that doesn't need it, like UFS... Heh. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 06:45, David.Ricci wrote: > I was always under the impression that it was bad to defrag a server. > I guess tha

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Campbell, Rob
ssues Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers Do you remember "way back when"? When NT 3.5 and 4.0 came out, Microsoft told us NTFS didn't need defraggingthus was born a new industry. :-) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread James Rankin
t; To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers > > Do you remember "way back when"? When NT 3.5 and 4.0 came out, Microsoft > told us NTFS didn't need defraggingthus was born a new industry. :-) > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt B

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Steven M. Caesare
> -Original Message- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:02 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers > > Do you remember "way back when"? When NT 3.5 and 4.0 came out, >

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:02 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers > > Do you remember "way back when"? When NT 3.5 and 4.0 came out, > Microsoft told us NTFS didn't need defraggingthus was born a new > industry. :-) >

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread David.Ricci
: 401.228.1399 www.hwinstitute.com david.ri...@hwinstitute.com SERVICE. INNOVATION. RESULTS. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers Do you remember

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Kurt Buff
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:58 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Defragmenting servers > > The really old school notion is to have a file system that doesn't need it, > like UFS... > > Heh. > &g

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Kurt Buff
:mich...@smithcons.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:02 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers > > Do you remember "way back when"? When NT 3.5 and 4.0 came out, Microsoft told > us NTFS didn't need defraggingthus was born

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Doug Rooney
) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers That is where I got it from. So now it is ok so as long as

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Joe Pochedley
From: Doug Rooney [mailto:d...@sonomatilemakers.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers OK, so does that mean the databases do not get fragmented, or there is another way to defrag them? I do not support our databases, only the

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread mqcarp
I have wondered this too Harry but I think the question is better put to your shared storage provider. That said, we are testing out Vizioncore's vOptimizer as well On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Harry Singh wrote: > Is it recommended to kick off defrag's for VM's who are using shared storage >

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-16 Thread Harry Singh
After doing some digging, I did find the answer to my initial question. When it comes to defrag'n your VM guests, it's recommended. http://communities.vmware.com/thread/77661 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, mqcarp wrote: > I have wondered this too Harry but I think the question is better put

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
Quick related question: Do you defrag file servers where the store is on a SAN? Does it make a measurable difference? I've got a bit over 2tb in three LUNs on a LH SAN, and have never really bothered, but am interested, and could be convinced... Kurt On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 13:59, Michael B. Smi

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-28 Thread Raul Torres
the whole argument about defrags is nullno app is better than the other...the question is when is defragging too much? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Quick related question: > > Do you defrag file servers where the store is on a SAN? Does it make a > measurable differenc

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
I'm not worried about which app to use - I'd probably use either the native app or MyDefrag. It's just a matter of whether it makes sense to do it on a file store that's on a SAN. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 15:19, Raul Torres wrote: > the whole argument about defrags is nullno app is better than

RE: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-28 Thread Michael B. Smith
), the difference is measurable. For random access, probably not so much. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 6:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Defragmenting servers Quick related question: Do you defrag file

Re: Defragmenting servers

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
rt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 6:17 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Defragmenting servers > > Quick related question: > > Do you defrag file servers where the store is on a SAN? Does it make a > measurable difference? I&#