Re: [expert] SO51a Save/backup -- Solved! (mostly)

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Bug Hunter wrote: [..] DOS and Wind*ws and Mac applications and OS tends to hold peoples hands, making it more difficult (not impossible) to screw up an installation to the point a single user can't use it. Mind you I'm not talking about

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread ibi
I guess it's a good thing then that I picked Mandrake 6.0 tonight for if I hadn't made the rescue disk I would never have been able to access it. :-) Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[expert] answer and a new question

1999-12-01 Thread Denis Havlik
: Is it possible to have windows 98 share drives using nfs instead of : samba? : :Short Answer: NO : :Longer Answer :NO! : Both answers are wrong AFAIK. Right answer is YES and NO. However, I am not sure if I am really going to recomend it. - Vanilla windows cannot do it. - However, (AFAIR)

Re: [expert] Stoopid FTP Question

1999-12-01 Thread Denis Havlik
:In standard FTP, "mget" filespec gets a directory at a time. You may :want to turn prompting off with "prompt". : :Better, use ncftp, and don't worry about "prompt". : :You might look at sitecopy, which will do what you want, although it isn't :intended for it. :-) Or "wget" which is intended

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Axhold it! I don't think so! You mean to tell me that both of my 6.1 CD's are 'faulty'! Two different CD's from two different sources!? One is an official MandrakeSoft CD and the other is a LinuxMall CD and neither one has an /images/rescue

Re: [expert] SO51a new install -- backup still fails!

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: Realizing, after what Axalon said, that perhaps I had messed up my permissions in StarOffice for good, I decided to download a completely new copy of SO51a from Sun. Before doing anything, I first deinstalled SO through SOSetup, then

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, ibi wrote: I guess it's a good thing then that I picked Mandrake 6.0 tonight for if I hadn't made the rescue disk I would never have been able to access it. :-) Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nah, the cdrom it's self makes a pretty handy rescue disk (howto in one of the

[expert] Mandrake, Corel and co..

1999-12-01 Thread Denis Havlik
Hi, everybody. I thought this might interest You - i have just posted this story on LinuxPR and Slashdot (no idea if they are going to accept it. Sorry for the html: ++ P a href="http://www.linux-mandrake.com"Mandrake/a, a distribution rather similar to a

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, you wrote: Axhold it! I don't think so! You mean to tell me that both of my 6.1 CD's are 'faulty'! Two different CD's from two different sources!? One is an official MandrakeSoft CD and the other is a LinuxMall CD and neither one has an /images/rescue sub on it.

RE: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS
These are the only images on my Mandrake 6.0-2 CD as well. boot, bootnet, and pcmcia. img's On the Mandrake 6.x CD there is a little distribuition that can stay on a single floppy. Usually I use that little floppy. What are you referring to here? I do not see any such distribution

RE: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS
A friend of mine has RH 6.1, it does not have rescue.img on it either. And since Mandrake is derived from RH perhaps this is why. -Original Message- From: Ramon Gandia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert]

RE: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote: A friend of mine has RH 6.1, it does not have rescue.img on it either. And since Mandrake is derived from RH perhaps this is why. No that is not why, it was simply moved and forgotten. redhats rescue.img sucks big time, tomsrtbt has easy

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Nick Kay
Well son of a, ok not my fault. I just double checked the iso on my ftp and your right. I have no clue how that happened. I don't have a 6.1 boxed set to check the other disks, I do know it was tight on space and they stuck a bunch of stuff elsewhere, I was pretty sure it was on the 6.1 beta but

Re: [expert] question

1999-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 09:07:36PM +, Civileme wrote: - "Lord And Master;)" wrote: - - Is it possible to have windows 98 share drives using nfs instead of - samba? - - Short Answer: NO - - Longer Answer :NO! - - Reasoned Answer: Samba was created mostly by Andrew Tridgell from some -

Re: [expert] Cohabitation: RH 5.2 M 6.1

1999-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 07:51:52PM -0700, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: - On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Charles Curley wrote: - - I have been running Red Hat 5.2 for over a year now. I have just put - Mandrake 6.1 on the same system. However, RH 6.0 was a disaster, so this - time I took things carefully: I

RE: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread webmedic
Another good boot disk is the one inluded with peanut linux. It includes midnight commander. On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote: A friend of mine has RH 6.1, it does not have rescue.img on it either. And since Mandrake is derived from RH

Re: [expert] Gnumeric not working

1999-12-01 Thread Alexander Kirillov
Which version of Gnumeric are you using? I installed October GNOME (which comes with GNUMERIC 0.38) and I do have file /usr/share/fonts/fontmap; it was created, I believe, by a post-install script. Sasha On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 02:58:17PM -0800, Derek Simkowiak wrote: When I try to run

Re: [expert] Cohabitation: RH 5.2 M 6.1

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 07:51:52PM -0700, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: - On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Charles Curley wrote: - - I have been running Red Hat 5.2 for over a year now. I have just put - Mandrake 6.1 on the same system. However, RH 6.0 was a

RE: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
Yep definatly completed a full circle on this one :) On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, webmedic wrote: Another good boot disk is the one inluded with peanut linux. It includes midnight commander. On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote: A friend of

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Nick Kay wrote: Well son of a, ok not my fault. I just double checked the iso on my ftp and your right. I have no clue how that happened. I don't have a 6.1 boxed set to check the other disks, I do know it was tight on space and they stuck a bunch of stuff elsewhere, I

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Tomexactly! So does my LinuxMall Mdk 6.0, but not either of my MDk 6.1 CD's (Official Mandrake Linux Mall). I don't think that they're "faulty", I think that the /images/rescue sub was left off of the 6.1 distro (maybe by oversight). Alan Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, you

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, you wrote: Axhold it! I don't think so! You mean to tell me that both of my 6.1 CD's are 'faulty'! Two different CD's from two different sources!? One is an official MandrakeSoft CD and the other is a LinuxMall CD and neither one has an /images/rescue sub on it.

[expert] Advanced Extranet Server

1999-12-01 Thread Timothy Litwiller
I noticed that the files haven't changed for a little while. Is now a good time to redownload and set this up?

Re: [expert] Mandrake, Corel and co..

1999-12-01 Thread David van Balen
it would be interesting if Red Hat bought Corel as is rumored... DvB On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Denis Havlik wrote: Hi, everybody. I thought this might interest You - i have just posted this story on LinuxPR and Slashdot (no idea if they are going to accept it. Sorry for the html:

Re: [expert] Stoopid FTP Question

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 02:47:31PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Sorry for this boneheaded query, but I can't figure this out and this list should be the quickest answer:: - - ftp, interactive mode. How the heck can I retrieve a whole directory

Re: [expert] Cohabitation: RH 5.2 M 6.1

1999-12-01 Thread Civileme
Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 07:51:52PM -0700, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: - On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Charles Curley wrote: - - I have been running Red Hat 5.2 for over a year now. I have just put - Mandrake 6.1 on the same system. However, RH 6.0 was a disaster, so this -

RE: [expert] 2nd request: Vanishing Mouse Pointer in KDE

1999-12-01 Thread Vanco, Donald
-Original Message- From: Civileme [mailto: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:16 PM Just a note to let you know I saw your post. I am still trying to duplicate the behavior. Anything else I should know about your install? Did you format all partitions or just some?

[expert] remove

1999-12-01 Thread Aaron Prayther
remove

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 01:43:05PM +, Nick Kay wrote: - - Well son of a, ok not my fault. I just double checked the iso on my ftp - and your right. I have no clue how that happened. I don't have a 6.1 boxed - set to check the other disks, I do know it was tight on space and they - stuck a

Re: [expert] Cohabitation: RH 5.2 M 6.1

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Arrg! Under RH 5.2 I tried that manually, with: # mkfs /dev/sda7 and it put an ext2fs file system on the partition. I then tried: # mkfs -t swap /dev/sda7 mkfs.swap: No such file or directory So I don't think it will will work when I reboot to

[expert] Vanishing Mouse Pointer resolved (but not fixed..)

1999-12-01 Thread Vanco, Donald
It appears that my vanishing mouse pointer is a bug in the MACH64 Xserver (3.3.5) and the ATI RAGE LT Pro chipset. After exchanging a few notes with Civileme it dawned on me that past installs on this laptop have been configured with the SVGA server - this time I used the MACH64. Sure enough -

[expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? My boss gave me the job of coming up with a package to do that. Also keep in mind that it will probably be remotely installed, configured and managed via ssh, so the easier the better! :-)

[expert] SO51a new install -- backup succeeds!

1999-12-01 Thread Benjamin Sher
Do this, File-New-Text document type blah Dear Axalon: You did it! In StarOffice, as you suggested, I did the following: File-close yes to save, file name is blah, Ok Now, File-# (it's 1 if you've fresh install) type "blah blah", so now you have three blahs File-Close yes to save Now look

Re: [expert] Web site (doubleblink)

1999-12-01 Thread Hoyt
- Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Web site (doubleblink) CivilemeI don't think it's too suprising that the poll came out like that, after all, there have been two

Re: [expert] Pumping Up PPP

1999-12-01 Thread Hoyt
- Original Message - From: Derek Simkowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Pumping Up PPP The serial ports are character devices (unbuffered) under Linux. I don't know if there is any equivalent to the

[expert] Kernel modules not modular kernels?

1999-12-01 Thread Jason Antonacci
Is there any linux os flavor (or any os period) that allows the loading of multiple kernels? I remember a professor during an SMP discussion stating that a "low level SMP kernel" can be used to load "higher OS kernels" onto individual processors. This type system would allow os redundancy on

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Hoyt
- Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Rescue.img Derekit's on the 6.0 disc but is not on the 6.1 disc. It's called 'tomsrtbt' (Toms root boot) and is in /images/rescue.

Re: [expert] 2nd request: Vanishing Mouse Pointer in KDE

1999-12-01 Thread Steve Philp
"Vanco, Donald" wrote: -Original Message- From: Civileme [mailto: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:16 PM Just a note to let you know I saw your post. I am still trying to duplicate the behavior. Anything else I should know about your install? Did you format all

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Steve Philp
John Aldrich wrote: Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? My boss gave me the job of coming up with a package to do that. Also keep in mind that it will probably be remotely installed, configured and managed via ssh, so

Re: [expert] Stoopid FTP Question

1999-12-01 Thread padlocke
mget usually works pretty well for multiple files. On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sorry for this boneheaded query, but I can't figure this out and this list should be the quickest answer:: ftp, interactive mode. How the heck can I retrieve a whole directory structure? I've tried many

RE: [expert] 2nd request: Vanishing Mouse Pointer in KDE

1999-12-01 Thread Jeff Groves
You may want to try using "synps2" as the mouse type. This will make gpm use the Synaptics touchpad driver. Run "gpm -t help" for a complete list of mouse types. Also, the Laptop-HOWTO has information on how to configure your mouse. I have a Compaq Prosignia 150 laptop with Mandrake 6.1 and

Re: [expert] Microsoft's Vulnerability ;-)

1999-12-01 Thread padlocke
AHHhhh Vaporware... I have many memories of my time with IBM and waiting for all those promised OS/2 applications. (text book study in vaporware) Many PS/1 machines had a pleathora of undocumented "features" Like for instance... IBM Token Ring adapters won't work in your 486 PS/1. Much to the

Re: [expert] NTP will not update!

1999-12-01 Thread Jason Antonacci
Thanks to Ramon Gandia for his suggestions. Reread the NTP FAQ and discovered that it can take up to 20 minutes to synch and properly begin services. I am stoopid :P. Our network is all happily on proper time now. I am using NTP because our M$ NT 4.0 DHCP server supports the option. Now

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Johnthat's not what I said, but you are correct. There is no file called rescue.img on my Mdk 6.0 CD or either of my Mdk 6.1 CD's. However on the Mdk 6.0 CD there is a sub called /images/rescue and in it are the three "Tom's root boot" files (they are not named rescue.img). Alan John

[expert] FTP, chroot?

1999-12-01 Thread Ian Douglas
I've heard/read about using chroot to force an FTP user to only have access to certain areas of the disk by making a subdirectory on the file system their 'root' directory ('/'). However, I can't seem to find anywhere to do this. Can someone help me out? Using Mandrake 6.0 and BeroFTPd 1.3.4.

Re: [expert] question

1999-12-01 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Lord And Master;) wrote: Is it possible to have windows 98 share drives using nfs instead of samba? Yes, but you need a "pay" client in order to do it. NFS servers exist for WinNT, but Win98 only has NFS clients (well, I think there's *one* server app for 98). Best I've

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Yacketta
John Aldrich wrote: Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? My boss gave me the job of coming up with a package to do that. Also keep in mind that it will probably be remotely installed, configured and managed via ssh, so

Re: [expert] NTP will not update!

1999-12-01 Thread William Ahern
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Thanks to Ramon Gandia for his suggestions. Reread the NTP FAQ and discovered that it can take up to 20 minutes to synch and properly begin services. I am stoopid :P. Our network is all happily on proper time now. I am using NTP because our M$ NT 4.0 DHCP

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Derek Simkowiak
Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? My boss gave me the job of coming up with a package to do that. Also keep in mind that it will probably be remotely installed, configured and managed via ssh, so the easier the

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, John Aldrich wrote: Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? My boss gave me the job of coming up with a package to do that. Also keep in mind that it will probably be remotely installed, configured and

Re: [expert] Kernel modules not modular kernels?

1999-12-01 Thread Steve Philp
Jason Antonacci wrote: Is there any linux os flavor (or any os period) that allows the loading of multiple kernels? I remember a professor during an SMP discussion stating that a "low level SMP kernel" can be used to load "higher OS kernels" onto individual processors. This type system

[expert] SO51a backup -- works but only...

1999-12-01 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear friends: Again, my thanks to everyone who helped. OK, here is the lowdown after an hour or so of playing around with SO's backup feature. First, I downloaded the 70 meg binary from Sun into my home directory, then untarred it as a user and installed it as a user in my /home partition

RE: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Ian Douglas
Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? If you have root access on the remote system to set it up, I'd recommend Majordomo. Installation is pretty simple if you read the documentation and instructions and if you set it up to

Re: [expert] Web site (doubleblink)

1999-12-01 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Hoythow do I get on the MDB mailing list? :-) Alan Hoyt wrote: - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Web site (doubleblink) CivilemeI don't think it's too

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Nickrescue.img is not the name of the file. On the Mdk 6.0 distro there is a sub called /images/rescue/ and in that sub are three files: tomsrtbt-1.7.134.dos.zip (create the floppy in a dos environment) tomsrtbt-1.7.134.tar.gz (create the

Re: [expert] Stoopid FTP Question

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: mget usually works pretty well for multiple files. Sure does...but AFAIK, it doesn't do recursive gets of directories.. John

Re: [expert] Kernel modules not modular kernels?

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Is there any linux os flavor (or any os period) that allows the loading of multiple kernels? I remember a professor during an SMP discussion stating that a "low level SMP kernel" can be used to load "higher OS kernels" onto individual processors. This type

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: I've got ezmlm installed on the work server along with qmailadmin for a web-based administration of the whole system (pop accounts, forwarding, aliases, mailing lists, and auto-responders). It's a pretty nice setup, I must say. Thanks...otoh, since the

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? My boss gave me the job of coming up with a package to do that. IMHO sympa is very robust configuratble

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Johnthat's not what I said, but you are correct. There is no file called rescue.img on my Mdk 6.0 CD or either of my Mdk 6.1 CD's. However on the Mdk 6.0 CD there is a sub called /images/rescue and in it are the three "Tom's root boot" files (they are not

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Geoff Croxson
At 12:45 2/12/99 +, you wrote: John Aldrich wrote: check out mailman it has a www interface and a built in archive (all www based) we switched from majordomo to mailman here @ work becuae of the ease of use for those not familiar with *NIX, or command sending through email, and wanting to

RE: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Derek Simkowiak
Can someone recommend a good, easy to use (preferably perl-based) mailing list package for RedHat/Mandrake? If you have root access on the remote system to set it up, I'd recommend Majordomo. Installation is pretty simple if you read the documentation and instructions and if you set it

Re: [expert] Rescue.img

1999-12-01 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Johnthat is the fun of all this, learning new things! ;-) Alan John Aldrich wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Johnthat's not what I said, but you are correct. There is no file called rescue.img on my Mdk 6.0 CD or either of my Mdk 6.1 CD's. However on the Mdk 6.0 CD

RE: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Ian Douglas
I would disagree about the "no maintenance". Yes, granted, if you're constantly adding new lists or tweaking the configuration then yes, there is work to do. But once it's all in place and you have no more changes to make, Majordomo requires no maintenance to keep running. And there are plenty

RE: [expert] Setting up linux box to connect to MS network

1999-12-01 Thread Stephen Carville
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Vanco, Donald wrote: -snip - And if the Exchange is anywhere near to being a standard - mail-server, than you should be able to use just about any - mail-program - which supports POP3 and/or IMAP. I.e. just about any mail - program at all. - - To name few: pine, elm,

Re: [expert] Web site (doubleblink)

1999-12-01 Thread Hoyt
- Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Web site (doubleblink) Hoythow do I get on the MDB mailing list? :-) Alan Sorry, that particular distro has a few, um, copyright

Re: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Patrick Putteman
I have to agree to this one: Mailman is very easy to install, very configurable, has a web based administration interface, archive possibilities, e-mail administration and is FAST. Patrick - Original Message - From: "Ronald J. Yacketta" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [expert] Kernel modules not modular kernels?

1999-12-01 Thread Jean-Louis Debert
Jason Antonacci wrote: Is there any linux os flavor (or any os period) that allows the loading of multiple kernels? I remember a professor during an SMP discussion stating that a "low level SMP kernel" can be used to load "higher OS kernels" onto individual processors. This type system

Re: [expert] Kernel modules not modular kernels?

1999-12-01 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Jason Antonacci wrote: Is there any linux os flavor (or any os period) that allows the loading of multiple kernels? I remember a professor during an SMP discussion stating that a "low level SMP kernel" can be used to load "higher OS kernels" onto

RE: [expert] mailing list software?

1999-12-01 Thread Derek Simkowiak
And there are plenty of tools out there (ie: Majorcool) which will automate the process of adding/removing new lists, etc. Yes, I've heard of (and experimented with) Majorcool, but what other ones are there? One != plenty. --Derek

[expert] SO51 -- Backup on Save -- SOLVED!

1999-12-01 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear Alan: OK, subject closed. That's exactly what I get, too. Each .bak copy is always one generation behind the .sdw file and I only need to use Save to save. No need for Save As. When I delete the extra material (which I added by stages, i.e. by "generations") from .sdw, the .bak will not