(offtopic alert! offtopic alert!) crackers etc (was [expert] Linux worm...?)

2001-01-19 Thread Rusty Carruth
b5dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I know this list isn't the forum within which to debate this issue, > but there is a great danger in our midst, and I promise to be terse. Well, sure, but its fun ;-) > > ... > such systems and controls. And if this Armageddon comes to be, I'll be > point

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-19 Thread Larry Marshall
> Marc, what you desire and suggest corresponds exactly with the mindset of > those powerful entities who want to establish ubiquitous e-commerce on > *our* internet: they want to own and control the internet. They represent > *big* money and influence *big* government. The collection of "evil"

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread b5dave
The list went down, although there seem to be conflicting reports just as to when (see the thread "Security Lists"). I received the "slocate" advisory on Dec 18, and then nothing untill today (the glibc advisory). Yet there were very many Mandrake advisories during that period that I would see pos

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread b5dave
Yes, I know this list isn't the forum within which to debate this issue, but there is a great danger in our midst, and I promise to be terse. Marc, what you desire and suggest corresponds exactly with the mindset of those powerful entities who want to establish ubiquitous e-commerce on *our* inte

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Mark Weaver
I did subscribe to the Mandrake security announcement list, but I never get anything from it. Whats up with that? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Thu, 1

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread John W
On Thursday 18 January 2001 10:31, you wrote: > This poses a question that I have about mandrake: do they continue to issue > security fixes after a new version is released? ie: how long do they > continue do do updates? > > > > Derek Stark > IT / Linux Admin > eSupportNow > xt 8952 I think I rea

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Scott Patten
--On Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:28 PM -0500 Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have an idea. Why don't we just catch these friggin virus writers, ship > them off to a tropicl atol, and test one the new atomic bombs that one of > the third world countries is developing. > > Seriously th

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Vincent Danen
On Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 06:37:54PM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: > I did subscribe to the Mandrake security announcement list, but I never > get anything from it. Whats up with that? It was broken. Two announcements were released today for glibc and php, both of which I know for fact made it through

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Michael R. Batchelor
>I have an idea. Why don't we just catch these friggin virus writers, ship >them off to a tropicl atol, and test one the new atomic bombs that one of >the third world countries is developing. Well, in the US we don't do that because of something call "Due Process of law" and presumption of inn

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Vincent Danen
On Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 12:31:13PM -0500, D. Stark - eSN wrote: > This poses a question that I have about mandrake: do they continue to issue > security fixes after a new version is released? ie: how long do they > continue do do updates? Yes. Currently we are making updates for versions as old

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Sherman
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I run drakupdate every Monday religiously, although I don't subscribe to the security list for Mandrake. But I think I will now. Dave On Thursday 18 January 2001 10:59, you wrote: > On Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 09:59:15AM -0800, Dave Sherman wrote: > > Since Mandrake

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Mark Weaver
> > and fix thier crap. > > Derek Stark > IT / Linux Admin > eSupportNow > xt 8952 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sherman > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Christopher Molnar
uary 18, 2001 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Linux worm...? > > On Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 09:59:15AM -0800, Dave Sherman wrote: > > Since Mandrake is Redhat based, I would assume that we ARE vulnerable to > > the same attack, until and unless Mandrake pu

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread D. Stark - eSN
]]On Behalf Of Vincent Danen Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linux worm...? On Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 09:59:15AM -0800, Dave Sherman wrote: > Since Mandrake is Redhat based, I would assume that we ARE vulnerable to > the same attack, unt

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Andrew George
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:23, you wrote: > that's good to know. I too hope that Mandrake has something to say about > this. Theres a fairly good analysis of the worm at http://members.home.net/dtmartin24/ramen_worm.txt Note a few key points. -It's targeted for RH 6.2 and 7.0 -It's using exploi

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Vincent Danen
On Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 09:59:15AM -0800, Dave Sherman wrote: > Since Mandrake is Redhat based, I would assume that we ARE vulnerable to > the same attack, until and unless Mandrake publicly says otherwise. > Hopefully Mandrake will announce something, one way or the other, soon. Not true. Whi

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Vincent Danen
On Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 10:43:32AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: > Has anyone heard about the latest exploit by script kiddies and what > they're doing to RedHat machines? I was wondering if Mandrake 7.2 machines > are vulnerable in the same way. Only if you haven't been updating your system with the

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Mark Weaver
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Mark Weaver > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] Linux worm...? > > > Has anyone heard about the latest exploit by script kiddies and what > they're doing to RedHat machines?

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread D. Stark - eSN
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sherman Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linux worm...? Since Mandrake is Redhat based, I would assume that we ARE vulnerable to the same attack, until and unless Mandrake

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread D. Stark - eSN
ECTED] Subject: [expert] Linux worm...? Has anyone heard about the latest exploit by script kiddies and what they're doing to RedHat machines? I was wondering if Mandrake 7.2 machines are vulnerable in the same way. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they en

RE: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread D. Stark - eSN
01 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Linux worm...? Has anyone heard about the latest exploit by script kiddies and what they're doing to RedHat machines? I was wondering if Mandrake 7.2 machines are vulnerable in the same way. -- Mark "If you don't share your conce

Re: [expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Sherman
Since Mandrake is Redhat based, I would assume that we ARE vulnerable to the same attack, until and unless Mandrake publicly says otherwise. Hopefully Mandrake will announce something, one way or the other, soon. Dave At 10:43 AM 01/18/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Has anyone heard about the latest

[expert] Linux worm...?

2001-01-18 Thread Mark Weaver
Has anyone heard about the latest exploit by script kiddies and what they're doing to RedHat machines? I was wondering if Mandrake 7.2 machines are vulnerable in the same way. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerfu