Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-13 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: It's just that I have a different conception of "bug" than you do. To me, a bug is bum code. Code with errors in it. Most of what you're complaining about are plain-jane configuration issues

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-13 Thread Alen Salamun
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: That's preposterous. What do we have distributions *for* if not to get things like file permissions right? Why bother with things like RPM files at all? Hi! Exactly my point. The main advantage of RPM-s is that I don't bother with all this stuff, but just

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-13 Thread Pj
For years I lusted for a *perfect* operating system. So I bought Winblows, only to discover that 90% of the "PC compatable software" caused my machine to crash, lock up and puke blue screens. Then I started hearing whispers about a new OS called Linux. " It's stable," they said. "It'll run for

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-12 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
It's just that I have a different conception of "bug" than you do. To me, a bug is bum code. Code with errors in it. Most of what you're complaining about are plain-jane configuration issues -- stuff not installed, stuff not configured. Linux does not configure itself, no matter what distro you

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-12 Thread Alen Salamun
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: bin86? Hey are you all joking or what: bin86-0.4-9mdk You did a server install, right? hi! It was a normal "SERVER" installI just used preselected packets and that is...And I installed more than one Mandrake server util now...It was always missing... What

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-12 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Alen Salamun wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: bin86? Hey are you all joking or what: bin86-0.4-9mdk You did a server install, right? hi! It was a normal "SERVER" installI just used preselected packets and that is...And I installed more than one Mandrake server util

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-12 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, you wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: bin86? Hey are you all joking or what: bin86-0.4-9mdk You did a server install, right? hi! It was a normal "SERVER" installI just used preselected packets and that is...And I installed more than one Mandrake server

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-12 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: It's just that I have a different conception of "bug" than you do. To me, a bug is bum code. Code with errors in it. Most of what you're complaining about are plain-jane configuration issues -- stuff not installed, stuff not configured. Linux does not

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-12 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: It's just that I have a different conception of "bug" than you do. To me, a bug is bum code. Code with errors in it. Most of what you're complaining about are plain-jane configuration issues -- stuff not installed, stuff

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-11 Thread Alen Salamun
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: That's because they were evaluated and found not to be bugs. Hi! Hehehe...Yeah right...THIS ARE BUGS: SO HERE IS MY "BUG" LIST (for 7.0): - In installation procedure things ALWAYS hang, if I select that Mandrake should install driver for my Initio SCSI controler.

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-11 Thread Nom Sandgorgon
ubject: Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking?? "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: That's because they were evaluated and found not to be bugs. Hi! Hehehe...Yeah right...THIS ARE BUGS: SO HERE IS MY "BUG" LIST (for 7.0): - In installation procedure things ALWAYS ha

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-11 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: That's because they were evaluated and found not to be bugs. Hi! For WHICH security level are you installing? It's my understanding that there are several levels of "security" and that this security level affects which packages are

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-11 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Alen Salamun wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: That's because they were evaluated and found not to be bugs. Hi! Hehehe...Yeah right...THIS ARE BUGS: This? Or these? - Kernel WON'T recompile if you try to compile NON SMP kernel! You have to run make mrproper first, then it works! Ok

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-11 Thread Thomas McLaughlin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: - Kernel WON'T recompile if you try to compile NON SMP kernel! You have to run make mrproper first, then it works! Ok this one is KNOWN already but no fix is out! I know how to find solution, but some newbie doesn't.. Almost all

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-11 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Thomas McLaughlin wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: - Kernel WON'T recompile if you try to compile NON SMP kernel! You have to run make mrproper first, then it works! Ok this one is KNOWN already but no fix is out! I know how to find solution, but some

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-11 Thread Alen Salamun
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: Newbies normally aren't recompiling kernels =) I have a feeling you guys here are NOT serious...THESE ARE THING NOONE SHOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT NOT FIXING THEM! This should be fixed right away with no questions asked... If not just say: Mandrake is just a non supported,

[expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-10 Thread Alen Salamun
Hi! I have submited over a dozen of bugs, THAT ARE NOT IN BUG ARCHIVE YET and got no replay, and bugs are not added! What is going on on this field?? Bye, Alen -- *---* *E-Mail: Alen Salamun [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * LiNUX - The choice

Re: [expert] What is going on with BUG tracking??

2000-04-10 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Alen Salamun wrote: Hi! I have submited over a dozen of bugs, THAT ARE NOT IN BUG ARCHIVE YET and got no replay, and bugs are not added! What is going on on this field?? That's because they were evaluated and found not to be bugs. You are attributing configuration errors to bugs. I

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-31 Thread ibi
I'm looking for a new CD-ROM. 6.0 doesn't like my old Mitsumi at all. Any suggestions? I don't want to upgrade L-M. Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-31 Thread Darin Martin
I have a mitsumi 32x that has worked fine with 6.0, 6.1 and 7.0. - Original Message - From: "ibi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [expert] What is going on? I'm looking for a new CD-ROM. 6.0 doesn't like my o

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-30 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Alan Shoemaker wrote: [snip] Finally I attempted an Air (7.0) install on my wife's machine over her Venus (6.0) installation. It failed at the point of initializing the cdrom. I made a boot disc to use the text install and it failed too, at initializing the cdrom. I then installed

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-30 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Alan Shoemaker wrote: [snip] Finally I attempted an Air (7.0) install on my wife's machine over her Venus (6.0) installation. It failed at the point of initializing the cdrom. I made a boot disc to use the text install and it failed too, at initializing the cdrom. I then installed

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-30 Thread webmedic
this mostly occurs with older cdroms and for some reason with kenwood true speed cdroms. Alan Shoemaker wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: [snip] Finally I attempted an Air (7.0) install on my wife's machine over her Venus (6.0) installation. It failed at the point of initializing the

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-30 Thread Alan Shoemaker
webmedicthis was a 24x Panasonic CR-585-B manufactured for Hewlett Packard in November of 1997. I got it at a close-out house on the net about a year ago as new merchandise. Guess it wasn't such a good buy after all. :-( Alan webmedic wrote: this mostly occurs with older cdroms and

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-30 Thread webmedic
At least you didn't pay for a kenwood true speed to find it out. Those things are expensive but they fly. Alan Shoemaker wrote: webmedicthis was a 24x Panasonic CR-585-B manufactured for Hewlett Packard in November of 1997. I got it at a close-out house on the net about a year ago as

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-23 Thread Jeanette Russo
: Saturday, January 22, 2000 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [expert] What is going on? On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Civileme wrote: I wrote it to suggest we ask the folks at Mandrakesoft to invest a small amount of time into preplanning the next release with some of us. Even a few chat sessions online to plan

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-22 Thread Ron Stodden
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Civileme wrote: I wrote it to suggest we ask the folks at Mandrakesoft to invest a small amount of time into preplanning the next release with some of us. Even a few chat sessions online to plan the testing/standards/objectives, to imagineer it if you will, would improve

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-22 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Ronyou've certainly got a point. I've installed Air (7.0) on three machines and attempted to install it on a fourth. I've since removed it from the first machine as that was just a dry run on a machine with some disc space, to test the release for major install problems before I committed

[expert] What is going on?

2000-01-21 Thread Sean Armstrong
I was subscribed to three Mandrake lists: Expert Newbie Cooker (for Oxygen) Now I am only receiving mail from the expert list, and intermittently at that. Did mandrake switch all of their mail servers over to Oxygen or something. Because that BUGGY distribution would explain the problem. I

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-21 Thread Civileme
Sean Armstrong wrote: I was subscribed to three Mandrake lists: Expert Newbie Cooker (for Oxygen) Now I am only receiving mail from the expert list, and intermittently at that. Did mandrake switch all of their mail servers over to Oxygen or something. Because that BUGGY distribution would

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-21 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Seanhave you tried resubscribing to the problem lists? When I experienced problems, that's what I did. It worked. Others have reported doing that as well. Alan Sean Armstrong wrote: I was subscribed to three Mandrake lists: Expert Newbie Cooker (for Oxygen) Now I am only

Re: [expert] What is going on?

2000-01-21 Thread Civileme
Ron Stodden wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Civileme wrote: That is the purpose of a beta, to eliminate bugs with user discovery. Yes, but the starting point for a beta is a completed alpha.Alpha testing is done by the developing orgainisation and includes testing both at the module