Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Shaping
I need multi-processing, and fast inter-process queues to build an Actor-like model for my application. Multithreading is useful too, but foreseeably not as useful as multi-processing. I hope these are in the works. Multithreading Factor code is currently not possible, and would require a

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Doug Coleman
Hi Shaping, When you install the Windows SDK, it makes a cmd prompt link in the start menu. Try compiling it from there. I think their prompt does more than just set the PATH, but I haven't researched it. Once you get nmake working, there's a script that can build and bootstrap Factor:

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Joe Groff
On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Shaping wrote: I'll have a look. So then these two VMs running in separate threads in the same OS process must still take care to lock memory/objects of common interest, or to stay out of each other's assigned memory areas. Is the second strategy the current

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Shaping
When you install the Windows SDK, it makes a cmd prompt link in the start menu. Try compiling it from there. Yes, found it... I think their prompt does more than just set the PATH, but I haven't researched it. ...Just tried the

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Shaping
I'll have a look. So then these two VMs running in separate threads in the same OS process must still take care to lock memory/objects of common interest, or to stay out of each other's assigned memory areas. Is the second strategy the current convention? Each VM has an independent heap, and

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Joe Groff
On Oct 31, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Shaping wrote: Do we have green threads (round-robin time-slicing for each thread) in Factor? Yes, Factor supports green threads within a VM. The IO library uses non-blocking IO behind the scenes to minimize blocking as well. Does anyone use a socket pair to

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Shaping
Does anyone use a socket pair to connect two communicating VMs, whether they are running in one OS process in two threads or in two OS processes? If so, is there some example code? Why don't we just put this on an FFI word? Is that problematic? I would like to know more about this. Is

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Joe Groff
I like the e-mail. It's slower but neater for me. But I've never really given IRC a fair shake. Do most Factor contributors hang-out on IRC? If the IRC is the main mode of communication, can you suggest a great Windows IRC client? Most of us are both in IRC and on the mailing list.

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Shaping
It says I've joined #concatenative, but I cannot send to channel #concatenative. Shaping From: Joe Groff [mailto:arc...@gmail.com] Sent: 2010-October-31, 04:19 To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Joe Groff
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Shaping wrote: It says I've joined #concatenative, but I cannot send to channel #concatenative. Sorry for the hassle. #concatenative has had trouble with spammers, so the channel only allows registered users to speak in the channel. You can register with: /msg

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Chris Double
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shaping shap...@charter.net wrote: Does anyone use a socket pair to connect two communicating VMs, whether they are running in one OS in two threads or in two OS processes?  If so, is there some example code? There are libraries for communicating across

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-31 Thread Shaping
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shaping shap...@charter.net wrote: Does anyone use a socket pair to connect two communicating VMs, whether they are running in one OS in two threads or in two OS processes?  If so

[Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-30 Thread Shaping
Hi everyone. I'm very happy to have re-discovered Factor. It has come a long way in the six or so years since I first examined it. I watched your Google Talks presentation, and have read a good portion of http://factorcode.org/. I'm a long-time (16 years) Smalltalker (VisualWorks and

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor text-editor text-styler and formatter; building Factor

2010-10-30 Thread Joe Groff
On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:28 AM, Shaping wrote: I need multi-processing, and fast inter-process queues to build an Actor-like model for my application. Multithreading is useful too, but foreseeably not as useful as multi-processing. I hope these are in the works. Multithreading Factor code is