Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
Hey, scientology...L Ron Hubbard. In 2,000 years they might find Dune and think it's an historical account of life on Earth. - Original Message - From: rudrani To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Vedic Culture Dependent on Current Interpreation of Varnas?

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
Perhaps: A currently is correlated with B. B is not essential to A.  Bcan be seperated from A. A can produce useful things, with or withoutB. A without B, could be a good thing, or at least not have theattributes of AB.---Better put than what I said.  But life isn't some logical system or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
I am simply asking, why should this be the case? Is the subtle, or gutlevel, acceptance of "Ved" as more fundamental than other knoweldgetraditions simply another unsupported bias in our thinking that shouldbe weeded out so that we can thus "see" and interpret the world andour experiences

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Sunday - Life Is

2005-03-12 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: DailyPage_10 March 13, 2005 - Life Is The hour is striking close above me, so clear and sharp, that all my senses ring with it. I feel it now; there's power in me to grasp and give s

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
Cool quote - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Development of Scripts in India On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:45 AM, rudra_joe wrote: One could further wonder if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
To think that one is only what they are born into is fatalistic and inhuman. To think that Jesus the Jew shaped  his philosophy and love for all of humankind merely on the tenets of his fathers was like saying Einstein merely followed up on Newton.  A human is what they profess that they a

[FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread Mike Hutchinson
> Great questions. I think we in the West for the most > part only know about "world renowned" gurus because > those are the only ones we hear about over here. I'm > sure there are many powerful, completely unknown gurus > in the East. Different dharma strokes for different > folks. I know when S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is this the Kaliyuga or what?

2005-03-12 Thread Peter Sutphen
Whether you're gay or straight has absolutely no effect on the realization of pure consciousness. Attachments abound in either state! Self-realization transcends all dharmas. -Peter --- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" > <[EMAIL PR

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread Peter Sutphen
Comment below: --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know when Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was asked why > > he worked so hard traveling around the world > teaching > > he said that the last time he was he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread Peter Sutphen
Yes, and in the West...North...South too! -Peter --- rudrani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Peter S. considered [[I'm sure there are many > powerful, completely > unknown gurus in the East.]] > ** & here in the west. > > om peace!.. > rudrani > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Block system -- total failure?

2005-03-12 Thread Peter Sutphen
I was a MIU philosophy student from '74 to '78. I really liked the block system too. It allowed you to really focus on the subject matter 24/7. -Peter --- at_man_and_brahman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was an MIU physics student and have > studied at three other universities, > including

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The problem, according to Rama, was that his subjects would > > THINK that she had been since she had spent a night there without > her husb

[FairfieldLife] Re: Block system -- total failure?

2005-03-12 Thread at_man_and_brahman
I was an MIU physics student and have studied at three other universities, including recently finishing an MBA. I really liked the block system and missed it at other schools. I don't like having my attention broken up by a mixture of classes and competing finals and midterms. I also liked th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MVVT, Ayurveda, Panchakarma versus TMG

2005-03-12 Thread Vaj
Do you know if you have vata insomnia or pitta insomnia? Kapha insomnia is also a possibility as well, esp. in people who are overweight. In that case it would be good to have a sleep study done if you have sleep apnea (if you have insurance). On Mar 12, 2005, at 7:23 PM, Tom Pall wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: MVVT, Ayurveda, Panchakarma versus TMG

2005-03-12 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. I've was taking 20 mg of timed release Melatonin. That's right, 20 mg > per night. And even that wasn't enough to take care of my sleep disorder. It did deepen my sleep and make me wake up more rested but d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The problem, according to Rama, was that his subjects would > THINK that she had been since she had spent a night there without her husband, and she > would be as dishonored in their eyes as if she ACTUALLY had been. Therefore,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2005, at 7:06 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > What about the word, 'word'? I have a subscription to the OED and it says: [OE. word str. n. = OFris., OS. word, MDu. wort (Du. woord), OHG., MHG., G. wort, ON. or To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://grou

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2005, at 1:30 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > If Ved are the fundamental impulses of the universe -- then perhaps > there is a stronger case for preeminance. Not if it is a "long" lineage in the absence of a "short" line. Long (very old) lines are hard to actualize and bring to fruition. Th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MVVT, Ayurveda, Panchakarma versus TMG

2005-03-12 Thread Tom Pall
Yes.  I've was taking 20 mg of timed release Melatonin.  That's right, 20 mg per night.  And even that wasn't enough to take care of my sleep disorder.  It did deepen my sleep and make me wake up more rested but did not help all that much getting me to sleep or keeping me asleep.   YMMV on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
akasha asked [[but are you wandering from palce to place, with no home, as is the practice of many sadhus? And thus maintaining no artificial reference point)? thats my next step. I am paring down as we speak.]] ** almost. i have a room, a central place (lol .. my lil' cave). im here usual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > It would make a better

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I think that it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudrani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > off_world wrote [[I am aiming to live off the grid quite soon.]] > > ** im currently 98% off grid (or abouts); better know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices and the Grid

2005-03-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think that it is inevitable that everyone will have to live off > the grid with some minimal use of machines, but limited usage of > machines and very low-impact environmentally. Otherwise Earth will >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > snip > > > It would make a better Hollywood ending. (Even though I am a guy, > > not a gal, as you seemed to mistake me for in a previo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think that it is inevitable that everyone will have to live > > off the grid with some minimal use of machines, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
off_world wrote [[I am interested to know people's opinions of Vedic practices .. ]] ** ok .. ill play. in your three Qs I read but one word: evolution. for me, the only consideration is that consciousness is ever expanding, that the spiritual plane – or whatever you want to call it – is ev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 3:24 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since > > Latin has so much other Sanskrit in it, and Latin always seems to > > add a 'um' or 'us' o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > It would make a better Hollywood ending. (Even though I am a guy, > not a gal, as you seemed to mistake me for in a previous post. Funny > how there are not a lot of women on this group) *** I did

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that it is inevitable that everyone will have to live > off the grid with some minimal use of machines, but limited > usage of machines and very low-impact environmentally. > Otherwise Earth will throw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 3:24 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since > > Latin has so much other Sanskrit in it, and Latin always seems to > > add a 'um' or 'us' on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudrani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > off_world wrote [[I am aiming to live off the grid quite soon.]] > ** im currently 98% off grid (or abouts); better known to me at > least as living like a saddhu. > - no car, > - no job, > - organic, homegrown f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'd be surprised if MANY aspects of Vedic practices survive. For > > example, Rama went after Ravana in the Mahabharata, to get his wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2005, at 3:24 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since > Latin has so much other Sanskrit in it, and Latin always seems to > add a 'um' or 'us' on the end. > Is this a Sanskrit word? 'Vaacaa'? In the Latin languages the Sanskri

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
off_world wrote [[I am aiming to live off the grid quite soon.]] ** im currently 98% off grid (or abouts); better known to me at least as living like a saddhu. - no car, - no job, - organic, homegrown food, - the computer connection is for the purpose of writing. om peace!.. rudrani To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I am interested to know people's opinions of Vedic practices (or > > practices associated with the 4 Vedas, Upanishads, si

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > << > unmanifest (speech)'>>> > > > > > > Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since > > La

[FairfieldLife] Re: MVVT, Ayurveda, Panchakarma versus TMG

2005-03-12 Thread ysoy10li
--- stevelf writes: ever tried Melatonin ? In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few years ago I was at MUM and undertook MVVT (Maharishi Vedic > Vibration Therapy) for insomnia. I previously had had numberous > Ayurvedic consultations for insomnia, to

[FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
Peter S. considered [[I'm sure there are many powerful, completely unknown gurus in the East.]] ** & here in the west. om peace!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Group

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
Peter K. spoke [[I can now see why Satygua would be Heaven on Earth: women will no longer talk.]] ** Matrika Devi, the Goddess of Letters of the alphabet, aka Lalita, has her divine sounds inscribed on the Sri Yantra in that they produce all sound & vibration, all mantra & word, all creation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
Vaj wrote [[Pashyanti, literally 'the speech which sees' [snip] Para is telepathic speech.]] ** beyond text is sentence, beyond sentence is word, beyond word is letter, beyond letter is sound, beyond sound is paranada. om peace!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[FairfieldLife] mystic symbol .. was: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
Vaj wrote [[Language will be all para and pashyanti.]] ** Scroll down to the "story of shum" http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2002/4-6/26- 33_mystical_master.shtml om peace!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fairf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > << unmanifest (speech)'>>> > > > Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since > Latin has so much other Sanskrit in it, and Latin always seems to > add a 'um' or 'us' on the end. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > I can now see why Satygua would be Heaven on Earth: women > > will no longer talk. > > Wow... heterosexist *and* miso

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can now see why Satygua would be Heaven on Earth: women > will no longer talk. Wow... heterosexist *and* misogynistic! I can't say as it comes as any surprise. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMA

[FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know when Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was asked why > he worked so hard traveling around the world teaching > he said that the last time he was here, he didn't do > very much. He also said that this is his 7th > incarnati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this the Kaliyuga or what?

2005-03-12 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd wager that hang-ups about sex are a greater obstacle to > > enlightenment than homosexuality. > > I'd wager the opposit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am interested to know people's opinions of Vedic practices (or > practices associated with the 4 Vedas, Upanishads, six systems of > Indian Philosophy, and the other aspects of what can be called Vedic > c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, peterklutz wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread Peter Sutphen
Comments below: --- Kenny H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > snip > > The thing I often wonder about (but not lose sleep > over) is why is it > important for Mother (any gurus name could be there) > "to grow as a > world renowned humanitarian as well as to have the > hands-on > relationships o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, peterklutz wrote: > > > > > I could do with a translation.. > > > > > > Para? > > > > > > Pashyanti? > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend) on 3/12/05 12:05 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing I often wonder about (but not lose sleep over) is why is it important for Mother (any gurus name could be there) "to grow as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
<<>> Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since Latin has so much other Sanskrit in it, and Latin always seems to add a 'um' or 'us' on the end. Is this a Sanskrit word? 'Vaacaa'? SANSKRIT: "Vaacaa" = 'transcendental' , 'unmanifest'. LATIN: "Vacuum" (vacu-um, vacu-o

[FairfieldLife] Vedic Practices that will die out or survive

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
I am interested to know people's opinions of Vedic practices (or practices associated with the 4 Vedas, Upanishads, six systems of Indian Philosophy, and the other aspects of what can be called Vedic culture, Mahabharata, Smritis, Ayurved, Sthapatya Ved, etc. I would like any details that peo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:42 AM, peterklutz wrote: > > > > > I do remember symbols being used, though. Herioglyphic like. > > > > Langua

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd be surprised if MANY aspects of Vedic practices survive. For > example, Rama went after Ravana in the Mahabharata, to get his wife > Sita back from the kidnapper Ravena. He suceeded, but as I > understan

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
for whoever wants more homework: http://www.ancientscripts.com/indus.html http://www.tamilar.org/tamil-history.asp http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/aryan/aryan_frawley_1.h tml http://www.hindu.org/publications/fgautier/selfdenial.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Suffice to say 'Ved' is a word that is used by a vast culture. It > > gives us our word 'wisdom', 'Wizard', ('Witch' may be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread rudrani
off world wrote [[If a Vedic culture exists 2,000 years from now, [snip] If aspects of Buddhism are found useful they too will be incorporated.]] ** yea .. in 2,000 years we will be discussing the Orange Catholic Bible. om peace!.. rudrani To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECT

[FairfieldLife] Is Vedic Culture Dependent on Current Interpreation of Varnas?

2005-03-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... and it's much the breakdown of Vedism in India that has promoted the rights and values of humans there, not its reestablishment which is synonomous with the BJP and fascist racial riots. ... Vedism creates monster

[FairfieldLife] Is Ved "Superior" or "More Fundamental" Knowledge?

2005-03-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suffice to say 'Ved' is a word that is used by a vast culture. It > gives us our word 'wisdom', 'Wizard', ('Witch' may be a version of > it), also 'vision'. Even ' the three wise men' of the Bible, who > came f

[FairfieldLife] MVVT, Ayurveda, Panchakarma versus TMG

2005-03-12 Thread Tom Pall
A few years ago I was at MUM and undertook MVVT (Maharishi Vedic Vibration Therapy) for insomnia. I previously had had numberous Ayurvedic consultations for insomnia, took all the MAPI herbs for it, the Ayurvedic physician's prescription for it, and panchakarma for it. The MVVT was a tentative s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, peterklutz wrote: > > > I could do with a translation.. > > > > Para? > > > > Pashyanti? > > Two of the four divisions of the word. > > Pashyanti, literally 'the speech which sees' is the le

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
Thanks for the Danielou quote. Really beautiful. L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:45 AM, rudra_joe wrote: > > > One could further wonder if Brahmi, as Saraswati, might not also be > > the Dakini of the Dakini script used by

[FairfieldLife] Gurus-Egos (was Re: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend)

2005-03-12 Thread Kenny H
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After being bombarded by all the various press releases following the > tsunami disaster, I posted #386 and a couple of follow-ups, wanting to share > my thoughts on how the spotlight has been focused on everything exc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, peterklutz wrote: > I could do with a translation.. > > Para? > > Pashyanti? Two of the four divisions of the word. Pashyanti, literally 'the speech which sees' is the level of visionary cognition where communication is simply an impulse; that is it is not divid

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:45 AM, rudra_joe wrote: One could further wonder if Brahmi, as Saraswati, might not also be the Dakini of the Dakini script used by the Awesome Yeshe Tsogal, and sung in such hymns as Song of the Vajra. Indeed many of the tertons who can access the Dakini language-code are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:42 AM, peterklutz wrote: > > > I do remember symbols being used, though. Herioglyphic like. > > Language will be all para and pashyanti. I could do with a translation.. Para? Pashyanti? To s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread Vaj
On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:42 AM, peterklutz wrote: > I do remember symbols being used, though. Herioglyphic like. Language will be all para and pashyanti. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Ya

[FairfieldLife] Hog Confinement Action alert--Monday, March 14, 9 AM, Courthouse

2005-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Hog Confinement Action alert--Monday, March 14, 9 AM, Courthouse -Original Message- From: Patrick and Ann Bosold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:19 PM To: Patrick & Ann Bosold Subject: action alert--Monday, March 14, 9 AM, Courthouse Dear Jefferson Cou

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > massive snip > > > > > Unfortunately , people spoke langauges and had cultures long before > > they were written down, and the general

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Dana Sawyer in India

2005-03-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not Diane Sawyer, Dana Sawyer. As Emily Litella would say: Oh. Never mind. > An old friend of mine who is a professor in a > college in Portland Maine and who, in the course of his academic duties, > go

[FairfieldLife] Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend

2005-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Another Amma post (to a different group) by my friend After being bombarded by all the various press releases following the tsunami disaster, I posted #386 and a couple of follow-ups, wanting to share my thoughts on how the spotlight has been focused on everything except the most ess

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Would You Possibly Know (and If you Did, What Would It Matter)

2005-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > BTW, sorry if I am getting names

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Dana Sawyer in India

2005-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Dana Sawyer in India Not Diane Sawyer, Dana Sawyer. An old friend of mine who is a professor in a college in Portland Maine and who, in the course of his academic duties, goes to India every year. He speaks fluent Hindi and pretty good Sanskrit and  knows a

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Dana Sawyer in India

2005-03-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm currently in Banaras and I'm digging into the current status of the > Jyotirmath controversy. Having fun, as you can imagine. Will know much > by next week. Regarding the Kanchi sitch, it seems that most like

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Cardemaister, > > > > Thank-you for the alternate translation. Is it yours? > Oh no, I forgot to mention it's Ralph T.H. Griffith's: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigv

[FairfieldLife] Re: And How Would You Possibly Know (and If you Did, What Would It Matter)

2005-03-12 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2005, at 8:35 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ecstasy and controversy

2005-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ecstasy and controversy I thought that was a fair article. Here’s something written by the same friend who wrote the other thing I posted. She read several of your posts. I don't know what to say, there is a lot to say and nothing to say.  You know what I mean? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
I know, I thought of it after I posted it. I just meant one of those famous guys that were circumcized and followed the tradition of Abraham. I'm sorry you were not be able to exptrapolate the ANALOGY, but chose to use it as an opportunity to put me down. To call Buddha non-Vedic is like say

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
This was really sweet, RJ. I've been missing this voice for many months. L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One will note the origination of Brahmi script as named for Saraswati, a > Dravidian Goddess, "Wife of the Originator Brahma", Devi, an

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: massive snip > > Unfortunately , people spoke langauges and had cultures long before > they were written down, and the general concensus among scholars is > that there was a proto Indo Europena language which

[FairfieldLife] Dana's response to Akasha's questions

2005-03-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Dana's response to Akasha's questions I met the senior acarya but interviewed the junior acarya - and he's the pompous ass.  Regarding my assessment of traveling in planes, etc., a brief note.   Yes, definitely it is against the traditional parameters of the Shankaracaryas to travel in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain Functioning Report Cards at MUM

2005-03-12 Thread wayback71
I just heard that students at MUM will receive brain report cards during their years of study. The new EEG machine (measures 32 spots and allows for active state measurements, whatever that is) will be used to evaluate just how the brain is functioning along with other measures like self-re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > Do you know the m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
Moses was an Egyptian slave, and Judiasm didn't exist yet.  Jeezus. If you don't know your own history then how can you comment on India's? - Original Message - From: off_world_beings To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:19 AM Subj

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
One will note the origination of Brahmi script as named for Saraswati, a Dravidian Goddess, "Wife of the Originator Brahma", Devi, and original lineage of tantra which stems from Her Divinity Herself. One could further wonder if Brahmi, as Saraswati, might not also be the Dakini of the Dak

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Development of Scripts in India > > > > Until the discovery of the Indus Valley Civilization in 1920, > ancient > > India seeming

[FairfieldLife] Re: And How Would You Possibly Know (and If you Did, What Would It Matter)

2005-03-12 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2005, at 7:44 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:58 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > I'm afraid not Vaj. It just isn't so. You are talking about an 8th > > century manuscript. > > Writing is a phenomenon of the Kali yuga. Some lines, still to thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Development of Scripts in India

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Development of Scripts in India > > Until the discovery of the Indus Valley Civilization in 1920, ancient > India seemingly had two main scripts in which languages were written, > Brahmi and Kharosti. The Brahmi scrip

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

2005-03-12 Thread mark robert
From: cardemaister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 5:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, what do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
""I'd tend to agree with the Manimekhalai (a Dravidian work) which (if you feel a need to attribute a prior movement to the Dharma) states that Buddhism is derived from Jainism. It also gives, from the pre-Vedic perspective, where these six darshanas come from. ALL of the six prophets of these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2005, at 8:45 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > and that ayurved and sthapatyaved > > and the six systems of Indian philosphy are a part of what is > > generally termed a Vedic tradition. > > First off, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:58 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > I'm afraid not Vaj. It just isn't so. You are talking about an 8th > > century manuscript. > > Writing is a phenomenon of the Kali yuga. Some lines, still to t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Block system -- total failure?

2005-03-12 Thread rudra_joe
I liked the block system. - Original Message - From: Patrick Gillam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Block system -- total failure? We would have overlapped at MIU, Shemp. I was there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rgjcm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rudra Joe, excellent, short and snappy analysis. A jewel. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Attachment to knowledge is merely attachment to knowledge an not > e

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Would You Possibly Know (and If you Did, What Would It Matter)

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
>>>journals to support your presentation of the truth.>>> > > > Which particular point is that you wish such peer-review on (I made > > many points), > > > "Tantra is Vedic." > > [Buddhism is vedic.] > "you can add Buddhism to that > list also." [of things that are Vedic] > > Its my under

[FairfieldLife] Re: And How Would You Possibly Know (and If you Did, What Would It Matter)

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2005, at 8:35 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha

2005-03-12 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > snip > > > > Do you know the meaning of the word 'Ved'. It is a word in a > > language. It has a meaning. Write the meaning of this wor

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