[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
However, I'm shallow only to those who don't read between the lines...I second that. Lawson's gnomic utterancesare often more profound than they may appearat first glance.For example, his comment above, if you thinkabout it for a moment, is really a koan.-Reading between the lines

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound; OM is the first sound of creation, it contains all the energy in an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
...futile attempt at justifying a waste of time and inefficiency in action.The way you lose attachment to the fruit of action is through contacting the transcendent on a daily basis and contrasting that experience with activity.Your Purusha's friend take on "stop start change" is as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
How do I block the Oracles from Delphi? Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's been permanently blocked in my book. Not much in the way of anything to say for a lot of gas. - Original Message - From: akasha_108 To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread eloigne24
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I'm shallow only to those who don't read between the lines... I second that. Lawson's gnomic utterances are often more profound than they may appear at first glance. For example, his comment above, if

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
I have a question about Ohm. I got some mantras from one of MMY Pudits - a Professor in Sanskrit - and the instruction how to use it - and they contain Ohm. I am meditating TM of course - but when I use the Mantras with OHM, they are very powerful and blissfull - and gives a lot of energy. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
As far as ladies not using OM as a mantra, I have read a lot of Vedic literature and I don't recall any (human) ladies following the recluse path (although there were certainly some fascinating stories of ladies leading their husbands to enlightenment like Queen Cuddala does for Sikhidvaja

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
If you're using Outlook then in Tools is block sender. You highlight the author first. - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List How do I block the Oracles

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
Thank you Llundrup, but I do not use Outlook, so I think I have to stick with it. It is probably that the way my Ohm-karma work. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're using Outlook then in Tools is block sender. You highlight the author

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
Thank you. Llundrup - I learn something new every day. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what Bob means is that if a person can hold a house in one hand then they cannot use the mantra OM. Oh, I see you used the plural - householders.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reportedly about $800K in checks were signed for the first months recert pay, but not much came in to cover that. It has now dawned on them that its difficult and expensive to get into malls. Many malls have refused

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I'm shallow only to those who don't read between the lines... I second that. Lawson's gnomic utterances are often more profound than they may appear at first glance. For example, his comment above, if

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-19 Thread claudiouk
Still being one of those waking state seekers of enlightenment myself, I would agree that I might be defensively attached to a particular and no doubt limiting view and understandings of it. However it does seem that people with experiences of enlightenment in this forum, and more generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
Folks might want to look up _The Problem of Pure Consciousness_ edited by Robert C Foreman. Interestingly enough, Skip Alexander was originally going to contribute a chapter on the physiology of pure consciousness, but the publisher told the editor that this was a no- no for one reason or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2005, at 5:16 PM, anonymousff wrote: This is what I was hoping that you could elaborate on. Not just an idle request. I think you would be doing a service for the readers of FFL to bring out the significant differences/contradictions to what many of us were taught. Briefly,

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
I have had some ideas about Enlightenment through the years from the TMO view. And I am reviewing them all the time. One of the stories (fantasies) was that when Enlightened, you know everything about everything and everybody. And MMY as an Enlightened person know everything about what you are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Well that's the second time I have been accussed of being a prude on this forum. Let me assure you without going into any specfics, I'm not a

[FairfieldLife] HAPPY FATHERS DAY

2005-06-19 Thread Jeff Fischer
I have 2 boys in their 20's and my wife has the same (4 boys total). Only one has a girlfriend (all have proven to be heterosexual). I want grandkids. Any advice? HAPPY FATHERS DAY Jeff PS It's my father's birthday today (77). One gift fits all. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-19 Thread shanti2218411
---Claudiouk,this is a good summary of my own POV.IMO a person's enlightenment can't be seperated from how they interpret it .The interpretation to some degree structures the experience. Kevin In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still being one of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Infinite Love Heals All...'

2005-06-19 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/18/05 3:07:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Be compassionate and never forget how to love. Think inclusively. Reclaim noble values such as truth, honesty, honour, courage.

Re: [FairfieldLife] HAPPY FATHERS DAY

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
Yeah, relax and let them go at their own pace. Whether or not hey have kids is their decision, and has nothing to do with anyone else's desires, including yours. Sal On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Jeff Fischer wrote: I have 2 boys in their 20's and my wife has the same (4 boys total). Only one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
What are you using, Ingegerd? Whatever it is, most have block features, and somebody here is sure to know how to set one up. Sal On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:51 AM, Ingegerd wrote: Thank you Llundrup, but I do not use Outlook, so I think I have to stick with it. It is probably that the way my

[FairfieldLife] THE MOST INSPIRING TRUE STORY OF OUR TIME

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: THE MOST INSPIRING TRUE STORY OF OUR TIME THE MOST INSPIRING TRUE STORY OF OUR TIME A few weeks ago, Dr. Taddy Blecher visited his favorite place: Jefferson County, Iowa. Voted South Africa's best speaker, Taddy has met with presidents (like Bill Clinton) of many countries, and

[FairfieldLife] Sun Beeja Mantra

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Sun Beeja Mantra Sunday is the suns day. Sun in sanskrit is Surya. He can also be called Bhaskara or Ravi. The Veda declares Surya Atma Jagata Stasthu Shashcha, The sun is the soul of all that exists, whether inert or moving. Surya Beeja Mantra repeated 6,000 times. As with Saturn,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
Incredible. Well, I have a feeling that if a lot of people used their block feature, or simply stopped replying, that Mr Sparaig would either drastically reduce his spamming of the list, or move on to greener pastures. Sal On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:28 PM, gullible fool wrote: He's got about 450

[FairfieldLife] Beeja mantra correction

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Beeja mantra correction Slight correction to the sloka about the sun that I sent out I broke up the sanskrit incorrectly by saying jagata stasthu. This is how it is pronounced but the words are more correctly spelled jagatah tasthu when the words are broken apart. When reading or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
I am going in from Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have looked everywhere om the screen, but I can not find anything to block messages. Well, I just close my eyes and block it from my mind. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you using,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sun Beeja Mantra

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
Here we have ohm mantras again - is this also only for man? Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday is the suns day. Sun in sanskrit is Surya. He can also be called Bhaskara or Ravi. The Veda declares ?Surya Atma Jagata Stasthu Shashcha,

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'TMO and Group Think and What to do about It?...'

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'TMO and Group Think and What to do about It?...' on 6/18/05 11:24 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all knew intuitively, that the scheme of the TMO was a little out of whack. So, why don't we figure out or come up with suggestions, which

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques on 6/18/05 11:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound; I remember him saying that since it is an eternal sound and yet can only be chanted intermittently by a human being,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 2:08 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound; OM is the

[FairfieldLife] ?? for Rick - kaplans

2005-06-19 Thread markmeredith2002
There are still rumors about town that david k and his wife are divorcing and that david is suing her for some weird reason. people believe this because it's apparently coming from earl's ex wife. didn't you get a response from linda k refuting this? I've searched here and can't find that post.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 4:02 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reportedly about $800K in checks were signed for the first months recert pay, but not much came in to cover that. It has now dawned on them that its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, and yogic siddhis will block the path. So do you think MMY knew this and wanted to block people's CC, or disagreed with it and felt the sidhis would culture CC? To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-19 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 7:31 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had some ideas about Enlightenment through the years from the TMO view. And I am reviewing them all the time. One of the stories (fantasies) was that when Enlightened, you know everything about everything and everybody. And MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
Thank you Rick. I think I will continue to do some practise including Ohm-Mantra. I really like the effect. Ingegerd -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 2:08 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] ?? for Rick - Kaplans

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 10:58 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are still rumors about town that david k and his wife are divorcing and that david is suing her for some weird reason. people believe this because it's apparently coming from earl's ex wife. didn't you get a response

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, and yogic siddhis will block the path. So do you think MMY knew this and wanted to block people's CC, or disagreed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 11:34 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, and yogic siddhis will block the path. So do you think MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
The oldest and most profound ethical standard is: Do not do anything to others, that you do not want others to do to you. I would not trust anybody as Enlightened, if they do not live according to that standard. In my eyes it includes no lies, not steal, not cheat and also not experiment with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/18/05 10:56 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its very tenuous and slippery to assume that Rick is being honest with himself or anyone else when he says things like he does. The consensual sexual activities of an adult human with another adult human are usually

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I like the idea that moral development must precede higher spiritual attainments. Otherwise those attainments can be misused. I wonder whether this is a recommendation or a requirement. We see so many examples of people who apparently have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I once heard a story, possibly from someone who witnessed the incident (but I'm not sure) that Maharishi and a few of his disciples were visiting another guru and a few of his. The other guru told one of his disciples to go into samadhi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Sankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 5:16 PM, anonymousff wrote: This is what I was hoping that you could elaborate on. Not just an idle request. I think you would be doing a service for the readers of FFL to bring out the

[FairfieldLife] Neelam's Schedule

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Neelam's Schedule FORWARD Neelam is a spiritual teacher, originally from Poland, who travels extensively through the US, Canada, and Europe giving satsang. When she came to America, she came in contact with the writings of Ramana Maharshi and other spiritual teachers and her search

[FairfieldLife] Re: HAPPY FATHERS DAY

2005-06-19 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, relax and let them go at their own pace. Whether or not hey have kids is their decision, and has nothing to do with anyone else's desires, including yours. Sal Jeff, this is exactly what I was going to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on this, but it sounds to me like you're almost suggesting putting someone in the stocks, figuratively speaking. For once I agree with Sparaig, what goes on between adults in a *consensual* matter should stay there. I also wonder why nobody brought it up at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in the Monestary

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
Maybe I should ammend my message to: 0) ass kiss; 1) be brief... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hamilton Douglass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life In The Monestary Brother Baku entered the 'Monastery of Silence' and the Head Friar said, Welcome Brother, this is a silent monastery.

[FairfieldLife] sorry about that...

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
More time-warppage. Aw well, was good advice, if not timely... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, and yogic siddhis will block the path. So do you think MMY knew this and wanted to block

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recert News

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] This is pretty much how any sucessful entrepreneur works. Actually, a successful entrepreneur's #1 tenet is: If it ain't broke, don't fix

[FairfieldLife] IdaaniiM Karthikeyan chaturiiyaH!!

2005-06-19 Thread cardemaister
http://www.narainracing.com/ Narain optimistic on US GP 13-Jun-2005 After Montreal's race, the Jordan Grand Prix team went straight to Indianapolis, the home of American motor racing on Monday, to prepare for the United States Grand Prix. The team will have only two days to rebuild the

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But bliss isn't blissful. If you're still feeling something, then the questions arise: who is feeling, what is being felt, and what is the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Bhairitu
Llundrub wrote: Plus advanced Sorry, I'm probably confusing some here. In general, mantra shastra divides mantras between shakti and shiva mantras. Shakti mantras are considered more intense than shiva mantras and therefore usually not given to the general public. This is held

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-19 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But bliss isn't blissful. If you're still feeling something, then

Re: [FairfieldLife] THE MOST INSPIRING TRUE STORY OF OUR TIME

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
Title: THE MOST INSPIRING TRUE STORY OF OUR TIME The print is too fucking big. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] THE MOST INSPIRING TRUE STORY OF OUR TIME THE MOST INSPIRING

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sun Beeja Mantra

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
Title: Sun Beeja Mantra It's much easier to wear ten and eleven mukhi rudraksha. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sun Beeja Mantra Sunday is the sun?s day. Sun in sanskrit is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: on 6/19/05 2:08 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
That didn't work in the ten years he was at amt. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Welcome to the Spraing List Incredible. Well, I have a feeling that if a lot of people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
Only works through an email client. - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List I am going in from Internet FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com.I have looked

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing outside of TM. Do you? I believe that that is one of the things he claims is unique about TM. However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by Gurudev indicating that he believed much the same thing? This would explain where MMY got the idea... Yes he did get it fr. SBS, but M. is generalizing something originally intended for one woman for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
Ah, well, but I wasn't the most prolific poster on amt... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That didn't work in the ten years he was at amt. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 19,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing outside of TM. Do you?No, it's patent bullshit and pure TM shell game. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip --- What did he do before FFL? Was he this active on alt.med? Does anyone know, or does he care to divulge, anything about himself - age, occupation, angle he's coming from. 50years old. Part-time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics on 6/19/05 1:09 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on this, but it sounds to me like you're almost suggesting putting someone in the stocks, figuratively speaking. For

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 10:56 AM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing outside of TM. Do you? No. And I asked Ammachi about it in a public lecture and she commented rather forcefully about it for about 15 minutes (in favor of OM). To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 2:07 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing outside of TM. Do you? I believe that that is one of the things he claims is unique

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
Thank you. I think I will open a new yahoo email. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingegerd, there is no way to block messages if you are reading them at the ffl message page. If you had them delivered to your email account, you could do

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by Gurudev indicating that he believed much the same thing? This would explain where MMY got the idea... Yes he did get it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 2:44 PM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingegerd, there is no way to block messages if you are reading them at the ffl message page. If you had them delivered to your email account, you could do that. Considering the volume of messages, though, you would be better

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 1:09 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on this, but it sounds to me like you're almost suggesting putting someone in the stocks, figuratively speaking. For once I agree with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 2:44 PM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ingegerd, there is no way to block messages if you are reading them at the ffl message page. If you had them delivered to your email account, you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, and yogic siddhis will block the path. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 3:11 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not so much the sexual behavior that is bothersome, but the implicit deception involved in presenting one's self as a celibate monk and then pursuing sex with course participants/staff behind closed doors. Right. And the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Premanand Paul Mason wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by Gurudev indicating that he believed much the same thing? This would

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Premanand Paul Mason wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words--it's a lot deeper

[FairfieldLife] A least one check is in the mail! Was: Recert News

2005-06-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 4:02 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reportedly about $800K in checks were signed for the first months recert

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK is condemned - by France!!

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Unstressor - it is a puzzler, is it not? The situation is hardly clear, what with the question of the massive subsidisation of French farmers, French agricultural methods belonging more to the 1950's than to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite. It's a catagory difference. Once it is clearly known that unbounded is not a 'really big space',

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How cool is that! I'll bet he never forgot that lesson. (Or if he was really dense he just smacked the next smaller monkey down the line a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, what is usually discussed on an e-mail list are peoples' mental models of enlightenment and how wrong you are if you don't express your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 19, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote: But are all adults created equal? Bill and Monica? Such an attitude really presupposes that women who are younger are automatically less capable of making rational decisions. In effect, it's very condescending. As I recall, it was Monica who

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The discussion is not about enlightnement. Indeed I find it pointless to discuss something that no one on the list appears to be able to or willing to clearly and conisely define the term as they mean it or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just came across 21 straight posts by our prolific friend. And I though Lub, Ron (in his day) and Rory posted a lot. OCD is a wonder to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics on 6/19/05 5:04 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote: But are all adults created equal? Bill and Monica? Such an attitude really presupposes that women who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
That's a lot easier to understand, IMO, since nobody likes being deceived. I just wonder why this deception seems to get so much more ink than any of the others. Sal On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: It's not so much the sexual behavior that is bothersome, but the implicit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to the Spraing List

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's got about 450 posts since the start of June. At least 60 just on the 'MMY: lifespan, 8.6.05' thread. What did he do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Shouldnt the president of the US be more capable of making rational decisions than a starry-eyed young intern? Isnt that why we elected him? We elected him to make rational decisions about sex? Right. But if Bill wasnt president, or MMY head of an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Llundrub
It's hard to imagine Maharishi giving lectures about things with pussy on his face, or with cum still wanking off his cock after a quick blow job to restore his spirits. But it brings more meaning to the 200% of life thing. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics on 6/19/05 5:28 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a lot easier to understand, IMO, since nobody likes being deceived. I just wonder why this deception seems to get so much more ink than any of the

[FairfieldLife] TM University in South Africa

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi/message/1604 A few weeks ago, Dr. Taddy Blecher visited his favorite place: Jefferson County, Iowa. Voted South Africa's best speaker, Taddy has met with presidents (like Bill Clinton) of many countries, and inspired a large donation to his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics on 6/19/05 5:43 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Shouldnt the president of the US be more capable of making rational decisions than a starry-eyed young

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I guess I have this notion that rationality and self control in ones personal life in other words, a healthy, balanced personality - somehow correlate with the ability to conduct oneself as a leader of a country or spiritual organization. That is

[FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/19/05 2:08 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Former Ledger editor on peace palace in Des Moines

2005-06-19 Thread bbrigante
http://tinyurl.com/9v4k4 I was relieved to learn Des Moines might be getting its own Peace Palace. Not that I spent much time in similar buildings in Fairfield ? er, Maharishi Vedic City ? nor that anyone outside the Transcendental Meditation movement hung out there much, but it's still nice

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