[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread shempmcgurk
The Jews killed Jesus and Maharishi killed Guru Dev...so what's the problem? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 12/2/05 9:13 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. M.DIXON?Right on DIXON CORRECT&so is RUSH

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 12/2/05 9:23:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > (I think you both mean *prosecution*, not "p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. M.DIXON?Right on DIXON CORRECT&so is RUSH

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/2/05 8:46:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > We are certainly moving toward fascism. The Patriot Act, the > attempt to > > repeal Habeas Corpus, the new bankruptcy law, c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 6:55 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Maybe, but don't forget that Krisna in mythology had 16,000 wives. > > http://www.pantheon.org/articles/k/krishna.html > > > > Oh, and regard

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 10:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Were these women highly educated and established > > in professional society at the time they were > > allegedly victimized by Maharishi? > > Well

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 9:13 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > P.S.: And it's *particularly* odious to refer to a > > spiritual teacher who engages in sex with his (adult) > > followers as a "pervert" on the basi

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch 'Yogi Bearer' Washington Post major article

2005-12-02 Thread L B Shriver
The Movement missed a great opportunity here. They should have sent David Lynch and Howard Stern out together. L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Major

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 7:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> I don't think george rejected MMY, but clearly his main spiritual > >> allegiance was with iskon if it was with anything. George wasn't a > >> rej

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/2/05 10:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Were these women highly educated and established > in professional society at the time they were > allegedly victimized by Maharishi? Well educated relative to their age at the time. >Or is this > something they achieved after that?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/2/05 9:13 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > P.S.: And it's *particularly* odious to refer to a > spiritual teacher who engages in sex with his (adult) > followers as a "pervert" on the basis of the phrase > "spiritual incest," especially without explaining > that basis up front,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 9:30 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > What if they had been less mature or intelligent, with say, only a BA? You > > might have disbelieved them then? > > > > Sal > > > Generally, p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. M.DIXON?Right on DIXON CORRECT&so is RUSH

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/2/05 9:23:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > (I think you both mean *prosecution*, not "persecution." > Hopefully we all agree persecution is not a good thing.) > > The problem i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed on 12/2/05 9:30 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if they had been less mature or intelligent, with say, only a BA?  You might have disbelieved them then? Sal Generally, people more highly educated and established in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. M.DIXON?Right on DIXON CORRECT&so is RUSH

2005-12-02 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 12/2/05 8:46:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > We are certainly moving toward fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch 'Yogi Bearer' Washington Post major article

2005-12-02 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lol, David Lynchmy kinda guy: > "He confesses a fondness for caffeine and sweets (he famously went > to a nearby Bob's Big Boy restaurant almost every day for seven > years for a chocolate milkshake). " >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread anonymousff
If they only had a BA, of course we would disbelieve them. College girls are sluts. Its an established fact. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What if they had been less mature or intelligent, with say, only a BA? > You might have disbelieved

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. M.DIXON?Right on DIXON CORRECT&so is RUSH

2005-12-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 12/2/05 9:23:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (I think you both mean *prosecution*, not "persecution."Hopefully we all agree persecution is not a good thing.)The problem is that denying habaeus corpus to *suspected*terrorists means that it'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
What if they had been less mature or intelligent, with say, only a BA? You might have disbelieved them then? Sal On Dec 2, 2005, at 8:51 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I agree, which is why I only accept what I consider to be factual accounts, which I have received directly from people who had relat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great McCartney quotes 1

2005-12-02 Thread at_man_and_brahman
This is from McCartney's book Many Years from Now. What he failed to mention is that his brother Michael was an enthusiastic, if not exceptionally accomplished, Yogic Flyer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul: We were in India almost as tourists. We aske

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. M.DIXON?Right on DIXON CORRECT&so is RUSH

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/2/05 8:46:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > We are certainly moving toward fascism. The Patriot Act, the > > attempt to repeal Habeas Corpus, the new bankruptcy law, > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think the term "incest" is overkill. The relationship between a guru > and his disciples is, or can and should be, very profound and emotionally > intimate. From my perspective, it is a sacred relationship a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think the term "incest" is overkill. The relationship > between a guru and his disciples is, or can and should be, very > profound and emotionally intimate. From my perspective, it is a > sacred relationship

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. M.DIXON?Right on DIXON CORRECT&so is RUSH

2005-12-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 12/2/05 8:46:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are certainly moving toward fascism.  The Patriot Act, the attempt to > repeal Habeas Corpus, the new bankruptcy law, censorship in the media, > etc.  So you would rather live under a rule of

[FairfieldLife] Yagna By Choice. It Works

2005-12-02 Thread Tom Pall
It's getting into my third month since I did all of my planetary yagnas to get to the Turning Point all at once. Also, I sponsored a Mahalakshmi Yagna in October and November. Those should start bearing fruit. Well, life's been getting better and it seems like each day things change faster. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 9:18 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > I believe you misread my last sentence. Try again, > > please. > > When you have, please get back to us. When you've reread and understood my last sentence (which you'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't the truer response be: who only visited his meditation > teacher after his kids wanted to see this person, many years later? No, on the basis of what he said on Charlie Rose, that would be a false response. Here's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/2/05 6:42 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > >> I don't think the term "incest" is overkill. The relationship >> between a guru >> and his disciples is, or can and should be, very profound and >> emotionally >> intimate. From my perspec

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/2/05 6:55 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Maybe, but don't forget that Krisna in mythology had 16,000 wives. > http://www.pantheon.org/articles/k/krishna.html > > Oh, and regarding todays gurus, lets not forget, something that has > no basis in any factual account, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/2/05 7:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I don't think george rejected MMY, but clearly his main spiritual >> allegiance was with iskon if it was with anything. George wasn't a >> rejecting type, remember he had a number 1 hit with a chorus > featuring >> of halleluias and h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 9:18 PM, authfriend wrote: > I believe you misread my last sentence. Try again, > please. When you have, please get back to us. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 5:56 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > Of course it *is* a nitwit notion, for the reasons I > > went into at length on alt.m.t, and which, as I've > > already pointed out, you are obviously completely > > unab

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let's refresh our memories of the context, since > > Vaj keeps snipping it. > > > > Here was the quote Vaj offered as proo

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think the term "incest" is overkill. The relationship between a guru > and his disciples is, or can and should be, very profound and emotionally > intimate. From my perspective, it is a sacred relationship a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 6:58 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > Now go and find another statement of respect and reverence about a > > guru from someone who followed the guru in the 1960's and is still > > visiting their guru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > I don't think the term "incest" is overkill. The relationship > between a guru > and his disciples is, or can and should be, very profound and > emotionally > intimate. From my perspective, it is a sacred relationship and > should be > pure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 6:58 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > Now go and find another statement of respect and reverence about a > guru from someone who followed the guru in the 1960's and is still > visiting their guru in the 21st century. Wouldn't the truer response be: who only visited his meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch 'Yogi Bearer' Washington Post major article

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
Lol, David Lynchmy kinda guy: "He confesses a fondness for caffeine and sweets (he famously went to a nearby Bob's Big Boy restaurant almost every day for seven years for a chocolate milkshake). " > > http://snipurl.com/k9v6 > > "LOS ANGELES David Lynch is wiggling his fingers. As the film

[FairfieldLife] Great McCartney quotes 1

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
Paul: We were in India almost as tourists. We asked him, 'Can people fly? Can people levitate? We've seen it in all the books and stuff.' And he said, Oh yes, people can, yes.' We said, 'Can you?' He said, 'No, I personally have not practiced this art.' We said, 'Well, who could?' He said,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
I don't think the term "incest" is overkill. The relationship between a guru and his disciples is, or can and should be, very profound and emotionally intimate. From my perspective, it is a sacred relationship and should be pure. It is ultimately the guru's responsibility to keep it that way, since

[FairfieldLife] Re: News from TMO

2005-12-02 Thread bbrigante
> *** > > Global Country of World Peace -- NEWSFLASH for Great Britain > > *** > SUBJECT: November issue of "TM News" http://tmnews.net > > TEN NEW GOVERNORS OF THE AGE OF ENLIGHTENMENT FOR GREAT BR

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch 'Yogi Bearer' Washington Post major article

2005-12-02 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Major story in today's Washington Post Style Section WashingtonPost.com > > recapping the first leg of the college tour of the David Lynch Foundation for > > Consciousness Based Education and World Peace.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Tom B.: > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 3:03 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Paul McCartney SAID: "And he gave us his book, the great wise man, gave us his book, because he was one of the ones that wasn't a fake. There were a lot o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 5:56 PM, authfriend wrote: > Of course it *is* a nitwit notion, for the reasons I > went into at length on alt.m.t, and which, as I've > already pointed out, you are obviously completely > unable to deal with. Having met "victims" of sexual > exploitation by spiritual teachers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I've taken it up with you because you so obviously > > wholeheartedly approve of it, having used it to > > justify labeling MM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 2, 2005, at 2:21 PM, authfriend wrote: > >>> That doesn't mean he's right, of course, but it does > >>> strongly suggest it's what he believes. > >>> > >>> Hey, maybe Paul is a True Believer! > > > > At this point, your i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
Hi Tom B.: On Dec 2, 2005, at 3:03 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > There are few statements so respectful and admiring in this day and > age about gurus. Well, I think you are exaggerating. I originally merely proposed that this over adulation on the Beatles could be typical movement disinform

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 1:29 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I guess, Maharishi has to be given the benefit of doubt. I've seen too many > > women lie through their teeth, with a straight face. I've nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: TSA changes to allow pointy objects on planes again...

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It could just be my cynical nature regarding the current > administration, but this latest move by the TSA seems mighty curious, > especially since there is no popular groundswell to 'LET US BRING OUR > SCISSO

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > TM sadhana i

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's th

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:31 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: [...] > > So?? > > K

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all dev...

2005-12-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 12/2/05 12:14:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe. But what is even more OTP is the fact that he didn't leave the TMO any of his life-savings, but chose instead to give it to his (gasp!) family.Sal The most unforgivable sinn! To su

[FairfieldLife] News from TMO

2005-12-02 Thread Ingegerd
*** Global Country of World Peace -- NEWSFLASH for Great Britain *** SUBJECT: November issue of "TM News" For subscriptions or enquiries about TM News, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], p

[FairfieldLife] Swami G in conversation

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Swami G in conversation G: what is not understood is Shaktipat and fully engaged Kundalini versus One that rests in Realization . One is still in the midst of Phenomena and seeking while the other has passed through and rests within Balance . * Both Baba and Gurumayi claimed to

[FairfieldLife] New anon post

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
> Note from anon Poater- I think 1,2 and 3 are seperate posts. If Swami G has a comment, I will post it to this group. Clairification can be interesting, some of this looks common to me: *1 So he is assisting the greatest Master of all times -- of whom never before has anyone like him been on ea

[FairfieldLife] Scientologists Try To Stop KRQE Report About Compound

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
NHNE News List Current Members: 1386 Subscribe/unsubscribe/archive info at the bottom of this message. SCIENTOLOGISTS TRY TO STOP KRQE REPORT ABOUT COMPOUND KRQE News 13 November 21, 2005 http://www.krqe.com/expanded.asp?ID=12982 ALBUQUERQUE - KRQE News 13 has been working for mont

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami G responds to FFL post which anon poster sent

2005-12-02 Thread L B Shriver
This brings to mind a previous post about internet trolls. L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anon poster to Swami G: > > I hope I am not making a mistake by posting this but > I sort of had a laugh from it- our new standard of understanding- >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/2/05 1:29 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I guess, Maharishi has to be given the benefit of doubt. I've seen too many > > women lie through their teeth, with a straight face. I've nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:27 AM, authfriend wrote: > [Vaj wrote, then snipped:] > > > > Maybe you're right and he did not forgive the spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Jason Spock
      Maybe it's a Rashmon never to be solved.  But have you noticed the difference in Mia Farrow's account and Ned Wynn's account.       Coleman seems to be more balanced and logical.??   OriginalMessage- From: "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Date: F

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all dev...

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/2/05 9:33:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > In the same "quotes" was: > > > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of > > Krishna. I've never be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 2:21 PM, authfriend wrote:That doesn't mean he's right, of course, but it does strongly suggest it's what he believes. Hey, maybe Paul is a True Believer! At this point, your initial attempt to claim Paul had "seen the light" and was no longer an admirer of MMY having crashed

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > [Vaj wrote:] > > > > Is sadhana of Krishna taught in TM/TMO? I trust you get my > > > > point.

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > TM sadhana i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed on 12/2/05 1:29 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess, Maharishi has to be given the benefit of doubt.  I've seen too many women lie through their teeth, with a straight face.  I've nothing against women, just telling what

[FairfieldLife] Swami G responds to FFL post which anon poster sent

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Swami G responds to FFL post which anon poster sent anon poster to Swami G: I hope I am not making a mistake by posting this but I sort of had a laugh from it- our new standard of understanding- the sensible thing is we all have holes in our mind and it is nonsense to think otherwise:

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let's refresh our memories of the context, since > > Vaj keeps snipping it. > > > > Here was the quote Vaj offered as proo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Jason Spock
      I guess, Maharishi has to be given the benefit of doubt.  I've seen too many women lie through their teeth, with a straight face.  I've nothing against women, just telling what I've seen.       By the way, Vajranatha is the only guy who has accused Ramana, some thing n

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's probably just because they haven't thought of it yet. See, if a "TB" came out with a silly rationalization like this, you'd hear the horselaughs from here to Rishikesh. But somehow it's just fine when TMO cr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:27 AM, authfriend wrote: [Vaj wrote, then snipped:] > > > Maybe you're right and he did not forgive the spiritual > > > incest which took place. > > > > Or maybe he didn't think there had been any, given

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's refresh our memories of the context, since > Vaj keeps snipping it. > > Here was the quote Vaj offered as proof that George > was no longer a devotee of MMY: > > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
That's probably just because they haven't thought of it yet. Sal On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:49 AM, authfriend wrote: Non sequitur, as I'm sure you realize. *Any* practice that is considered to interfere with TM practice would be a no-go. But as you know, there is no area on the forms for "obj

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:27 AM, authfriend wrote:Or maybe he didn't think there had been any, given that he has been willing to state in public, on national television, that MMY wasn't into "chicks."  He didn't have to say that; he wasn't *asked* about it by Charlie Rose.  He volunteered it, in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all dev...

2005-12-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
Maybe. But what is even more OTP is the fact that he didn't leave the TMO any of his life-savings, but chose instead to give it to his (gasp!) family. Sal On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if having Hari Krishnas around you chanting the Maha Mantra while you are "Ch

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > > Muhammad or...). > > > > > > TM sadhana i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all dev...

2005-12-02 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 12/2/05 9:33:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In the same "quotes" was:> > "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the servant of  > Krishna. I've never been so humble in all my life, and I feel great!"  > - George Harrison>>>S

[FairfieldLife] Religious Harmony Declaration

2005-12-02 Thread hanumanhoffman9
In Datta Seva Sri Guru Datta Hanuman Religious Harmony Month Divine words that came out of Sri SwamijiÕs heart during the installation ceremony of Kalagni Shamana Dattatreya Temple in Datta Peetham in Mysore in the year 1978 are still ringing in our ears. "This is the Datta Temple. That is, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: [Vaj wrote:] > > > Is sadhana of Krishna taught in TM/TMO? I trust you get my > > > point. > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Kr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/2/05 12:28 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Also, on a visit to the New York area in 2000, Janet Hoffman, > long-time TM teacher in Manhattan, told me that she had spent a > delightful week in Lancaster, MA getting pancha karma and George was > there the whole time she was and h

[FairfieldLife] Lord Ganesh appearing at Satyam's Sacred Thread Ceremony

2005-12-02 Thread hanumanhoffman9
This is lunar month of Margashirsa. It is the month that Lord Krishna declared as Him. December 15th is the Purnima and Datta Jayanthi celebrating the appearance of Lord Dattatreya. It is my intention to post an excerpt from the Life History of Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji each day through

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread markmeredith2002
> On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a > > TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or > > Muhammad or...). > > > > TM sadhana is, you know, TM. That's the meditation > > practice. > > > > Anything else is up to the individual,

[FairfieldLife] TSA changes to allow pointy objects on planes again...

2005-12-02 Thread jim_flanegin
It could just be my cynical nature regarding the current administration, but this latest move by the TSA seems mighty curious, especially since there is no popular groundswell to 'LET US BRING OUR SCISSORS!' on airplane flights. Bush's poll numbers have seriously tanked with a majority of voter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:28 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > Paul NEVER said anything against Maharishi. > > EVER. > > I don't think it's possible for you to know everything Paul has > said. In fact most of what we know is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:19 AM, authfriend wrote:Nothing I've ever heard of MMY's teaching says a TMer can't be a servant of Krishna (or Jesus or Muhammad or...). TM sadhana is, you know, TM.  That's the meditation practice. Anything else is up to the individual, especially one's choice of object

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:31 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In the same "quotes" was: > >> > >> "My life belongs the Lord Krishna now. I'm just the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:28 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > Paul NEVER said anything against Maharishi. > > EVER. > > I don't think it's possible for you to know everything Paul has said. > In fact most of what we know

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: So Florida TM activities Rothenbergs

2005-12-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > >I am learning more from the weather today- very, very active with > >rain and wind- than I am from who we call Maharishi. Again, not sure > >there is a significant difference there... > > > Y

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:28 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Paul NEVER said anything against Maharishi.  EVER. I don't think it's possible for you to know everything Paul has said. In fact most of what we know is the public Paul M, not the private one.Maybe you're right and he did not forgive the spiritu

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:31 AM, off_world_beings wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison: Most devoted to Maharishi of all devotees.

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > This speaks loud and clear to George Harrison's love and utter > > devotion to Maharishi. It needs little commnet. It speaks for itself. > > The naysayers are ign

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:51 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:23 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > No, Vaj, *you're* desperate, more so than the true- > > bluest True Believer. > > Not at all, really it doesn't matter much to me. George went on to > other things eastern

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:51 PM, authfriend wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >>> Again

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, on a visit to the New York area in 2000, Janet Hoffman, > long-time TM teacher in Manhattan, told me that she had spent a > delightful week in Lancaster, MA getting pancha karma and George was > there the whole

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