[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > > wrote: > > > > > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > > > deeksha because i

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds very nice .. but I detect a few caveats are in order. Quite a few, actually. > One is that Divine Intelligence (DI) isn't looking to flow just > through people who have completed the official 21 day

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > It's all been done before - think buying Indulgences. Was > > that before or after the Inquisition? > > The practice of 'buying indulgences' was

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now i understand what they were saying. (Taste the > strawberry, dont talk about it). The Divine > Intelligence is supremely intelligent so each person > starts to wake up in their own way based on their own > physi

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I > don't > > > consider that insane.

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:06:32 - >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 4658 > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > > wrote: > > > The fact is many peo

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's all been done before - think buying Indulgences. Was > that before or after the Inquisition? The practice of 'buying indulgences' was long before the Inquisition. The Cathars formed their sect in reaction

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > [...] > >> No organization connected with TM has ever done anything geared > >> toward improvin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool > > wrote: > > > > > > > Total Knowledge of Natural Law, bestowed by His > > > > Master Guru Dev, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > giving out aristocr

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:06:32 - >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 4658 > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > > wrote: > > > The fact is many pe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > And here is the behind the scenes reality of the > > Movement on Deeksha. > > > > Jacque, the former National Leader of Holland went to > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > > Divine, is not a path or a spiritua

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > giving out aristocra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool > wrote: > > > > > Total Knowledge of Natural Law, bestowed by His > > > Master Guru Dev, and offered > > > in its purity by Governors of the Age of > > > Enlightenme

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Here is the official Movement statement on Diksha and > anyone who is teaching it. > > > > ³Maharishi¹s Movement does not endorse in any way > any techniques > or programs > > other than those taught by His

[FairfieldLife] re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread steven klayman
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:06:32 - From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Digest Number 4658 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > deeksha because it gives direct experience of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 4/6/06 12:01 AM, Ingegerd at marwincornyarmand@ wrote: > > > >> > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Total Knowledge of Natural Law, bestowed by His > > Master Guru Dev, and offered > > in its purity by Governors of the Age of > > Enlightenment without any mixing of > > any unknown things. > > Didn't he mean

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 9:54 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" >>> [...] No organizati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > [...] > >> No organization connected with TM has ever done anything geared > >> toward improving

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > givi

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > giving out aristocratic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] >> No organization connected with TM has ever done anything geared >> toward improving the financial well being of anyone other than >> themselves. What makes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj
On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > giving out aristocratic titles and positions of authority to people > based on their financial contribu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > Divine, is not a path or a spiritual technique, has no > teachings, no scriptures to read nor is obedience

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And here is the behind the scenes reality of the > Movement on Deeksha. > > Jacque, the former National Leader of Holland went to > MMY and told him he had received deeksha, wanted to go > to India and be initiated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > Divine, is not a path or a spiritual technique, has no > teachings, no scriptures to read nor is obedience

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > wrote: > > > > > > First, What is your definition of insanity.?? > > > > It would be complex,

[FairfieldLife] The Deity in the Data

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread steven klayman
Here is the official Movement statement on Diksha and anyone who is teaching it. > > ³Maharishi¹s Movement does not endorse in any way any techniques or programs > other than those taught by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and anyone > who is suggesting otherwise is misleading the people.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, klakke57 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > on 4/6/06 4:12 PM, shempmc

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread klakke57
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > on 4/6/06 4:12 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > > What exactly is Diskha Diksha is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj
On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > Or, much better, read: "The Fourteen Dalai Lamas: A > Sacred Legacy of Reincarnation," by Dalai Lama XIV, > Glenn H. Mullin, and Valerie Shepherd. > > This book lists the historical "tests" that were > performed to verify that the kid named as the r

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:15 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 4:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > It's all almost as silly as naming some 5-year-old peasant

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > wrote: > > > > First, What is your definition of insanity.?? > > It would be complex, because insanity is a complex > subject, but I'm pretty sure that one asp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > In a message dated 4/6/06 4:14:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > What exactly is Diskha and why is it important enough > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > on 4/6/06 4:12 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > > > > What exactly is Disk

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First, What is your definition of insanity.?? It would be complex, because insanity is a complex subject, but I'm pretty sure that one aspect of it would include defining as insane people who give themselves th

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:26 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > > I think it's the whole shebang, a complete package...don't

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