[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My take on it may be philosophically puerile, but it seems to me that consciousness must be fundamental to creation, simply because if there were no consciousness, anywhere, of any sort whatsoever, there would effectivel

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread hermandan0
My take on it may be philosophically puerile, but it seems to me that consciousness must be fundamental to creation, simply because if there were no consciousness, anywhere, of any sort whatsoever, there would effectively be no creation. Not just an absence of one consciousness, as in a person dyin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread bhairitu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bhairitu" wrote: > > > > > Hey, Bhairitu > > I used to live in the Seattle for 17 years before I left in May > 2004. It was a nice experience over there, except for the winter >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Angela Mailander
Even an amoeba, a one-celled animal, is not only alive, but intent on staying alive, as Antonio Damasio put it. Even plants do what they can to stay alive, so this is something we seem to share with all that lives. I do not think I am afraid of death, but my body sure is and it reacts with gre

[FairfieldLife] Re: Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bhairitu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Duveyoung > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:30 PM > > To: Fairfiel

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread gullible fool
I can't tell to whom you are responding here, Rick. Too much snipping. --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I went to one meeting in FF where we confronted the > electric company > spokesperson who was there to "calm us," but > basically he just > lawyered up and said "trust us." > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread shanti18411
>If I hit my radio and the music goes off does that prove that the music was produced inside the radio?As far as people under anesthesia are concerned,infact a certain percentage of them do MOT lose awareness. The fact that most do simply establishes that the brain plays some kind of role in the e

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A fish does not have a mid-brain. The reason a fish flops around in the bottom of a boat is that he senses himself as half a fish only. The reason is that his sense of himself comes from the pressure of the wate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread bhairitu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Duveyoung > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:30 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Operation Falcon and the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Angela Mailander
A fish does not have a mid-brain. The reason a fish flops around in the bottom of a boat is that he senses himself as half a fish only. The reason is that his sense of himself comes from the pressure of the water on his left side and his right side as he turns left and right. When he's in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Angela Mailander
My questions and comments are interspersed with your text. My comments are without quotation marks. Yours are in quotes. Vaj: "While I would agree that consciousness, the alaya-vijnana, is the basic substrate-conscious ness, my answer changes when you add 'of creation'." 1) Of wh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Angela Mailander
I'll respond to your last post in some detail, but for this one, I want to know what evidence you have that these things are possible. Have you ever seen anyone pass his (or her) hand through a solid object? The last person I saw try was my two-year old daughter who'd seen one too many Caspar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Vaj
On Dec 28, 2007, at 5:48 PM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > implies > a yogi would can pass his hand through matter as if it was truly an > illusion. It's an easy claim to make, few truly and completely live at > that absolute a level,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dryer malfunction" fire on MUM campus

2007-12-28 Thread Peter
--- mainstream20016 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- mainstream20016 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > bob_brigante > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ah'll betya dollars t

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > implies > a yogi would can pass his hand through matter as if it was truly an > illusion. It's an easy claim to make, few truly and completely live at > that absolute a level, but they do IME exist. :-) > IMO, what would

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Charlie met Maharishi

2007-12-28 Thread do.rflex
Really makes me smile, Rick. Thanks. I loved the guy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By Charles F. Lutes > As Told to Martin Zucker > > CHAPTER ONE > East Meets West > > Nicky and I were out, as usual, taking our nightly constitutional a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Vaj
On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: I'm curious - how many people here believe consciousness is the fundamental substrate of creation? If you do, what evidence do you put forth to back up your belief? While I would agree that consciousness, the alaya-vijnana, is the basic su

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread Rick Archer
I went to one meeting in FF where we confronted the electric company spokesperson who was there to "calm us," but basically he just lawyered up and said "trust us." I was at that meeting. And, Rick, weren't you one of the few here who responded to the Trikke with at least some positivity? Am I r

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Angela Mailander wrote: > > > > Curtis is dead right ... > > consciousness is produced by the brain > > is, so far, incontrovertible for the > > reasons he states. > > Just to clarify the brain's role

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dryer malfunction" fire on MUM campus

2007-12-28 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > --- mainstream20016 wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ah'll betya dollars to don

[FairfieldLife] Re: Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread Duveyoung
They've had a snow Trikke called the Skki for a couple years now. Just saw a video of a guy who never skied or snowboarded getting on a Skki and going right down the hill in pretty good control. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gbHebPg9_Vs As for my paranoia, chances are pretty good that if I get pi

[FairfieldLife] How Charlie met Maharishi

2007-12-28 Thread Rick Archer
By Charles F. Lutes As Told to Martin Zucker CHAPTER ONE East Meets West Nicky and I were out, as usual, taking our nightly constitutional along Ventura Boulevard. For me, the walking was good exercise and a relaxing form of therapy, an attempt to flush out the tension built up during a day o

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Gillam
> --- Angela Mailander wrote: > > Curtis is dead right ... > consciousness is produced by the brain > is, so far, incontrovertible for the > reasons he states. Just to clarify the brain's role in the two two schools of thought: If consciousness arises from matter, the brain produces conscio

RE: [FairfieldLife] Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State The below article, though obviously heavily slanted with imaginar

[FairfieldLife] Operation Falcon and the Looming Police State

2007-12-28 Thread Duveyoung
The below article, though obviously heavily slanted with imaginary fears-of-the-future, nevertheless is a clear presentation of what is now set up to function at a moment's notice. I find it chilling, and so now I am moved another notch closer to expecting the worst to happen before the elections.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Angela Mailander
Thanks for a question that saves us from drivel. What proof could there be that consciousness the fundamental substrate of creation? If it is, it would lie beyond proof by definition on the general principle embodied in “We don’t know who invented water, but we know it wasn’t a fish.” Even so,

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Gillam
>--- Duveyoung wrote: > > I believe that consciousness is the > substrate of creation, but that it > is merely a PROCESS in the relative. ... > my evidence is my own experience of > thoughtlessness. When > thought -- especially conceptual > thought -- is not "there," yet it > can be found th

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Gotcha" spoils a sermon about a non-personal God.

2007-12-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
> And, yeah, Madonna was born with a red aura and has sex on the brain, You bought her carefully crafted image? Madonna is about power not sex IMO. Her sexual posturing was always of the NYC gay club scene variety. > but I find her "career risking" support of Kabbalah to be genuine. The caree

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lingam in FF

2007-12-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Christ climbed down from his bare tree this year and played poker with Shiva. They smoked fine Cuban cigars and drank expensive single malt liquors and played the music really loud. And finally, when the moon had set, and t

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Gotcha" spoils a sermon about a non-personal God.

2007-12-28 Thread Duveyoung
The funny thing is that I felt connected to this guy's message, and I have resonated with many Kabbalah constructs. Not that I'm spinning a dreidel as a precuser to meditation, but my brain loves the taste of the concept of "sacred meaning appearing in 'anything deeply studied.'" I think the Sefir

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul on blacks

2007-12-28 Thread Duveyoung
With Dennis Kucinich unlikely to get the nom, Ron Paul looms larger to me -- if only to get power back to the states/people. Ron's reasons for letting the states run thing may be twisted by racism etc., but it is the will of the people that will be expressed if Ron wins -- not Ron's favorite littl

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Duveyoung
I believe that consciousness is the substrate of creation, but that it is merely a PROCESS in the relative. The Absolute is not merely consciousnesseven though consciousness is the bestestmostest symbol for the Absolute. Ramana equated "mind" as merely "a thought happening" -- so his definiti

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think consciousness emerges from matter functioning in a certain way. My evidence is that even the slightest shift in brain functioning can eliminate consciousness altogether. I would love to have a person who claims their consciousness will exist after death take a test of being put under anes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi In God's Name in wmv format

2007-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:05 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi In God

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi In God's Name in wmv format

2007-12-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi In God's Name in wmv format --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi In God's Name in wmv format

2007-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For those who want to download the clips of Ammachi In God's Name, > The original wmv file: > > HYPERLINK > "http://public.box.net/tomgull86806"http://public.box.net/tomgull86806 > > It's probably a tiny bit cleare

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm curious - how many people here believe > consciousness is the fundamental substrate > of creation? If you do, what evidence do you > put forth to back up your belief? > > I'm inclined to say consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Ammachi In God's Name in wmv format

2007-12-28 Thread Rick Archer
For those who want to download the clips of Ammachi In God's Name, The original wmv file: HYPERLINK "http://public.box.net/tomgull86806"http://public.box.net/tomgull86806 It's probably a tiny bit clearer than the YT one. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Ver

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dryer malfunction" fire on MUM campus

2007-12-28 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- mainstream20016 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > > wrote: > > > > > > Ah'll betya dollars to donuts this fire was > > another guy who didn't get > > > the memo a

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dryer malfunction" fire on MUM campus

2007-12-28 Thread Rick Archer
When my wife and I were living in Frat 114, one day I smelled gas, so I went downstairs and found that there was a gas line in the laundry room with nothing connected to it, but it wasn’t capped off in any way. It had a stopcock that someone had turned on, and gas was gushing out of it. The whole b

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Gillam
I'm curious - how many people here believe consciousness is the fundamental substrate of creation? If you do, what evidence do you put forth to back up your belief? I'm inclined to say consciousness is indeed primary, and matter secondary, as Deepak Chopra phrased it. But I can't cite any really

[FairfieldLife] Seekers

2007-12-28 Thread Rick Archer
"This search for Truth - for the key that makes sense of life, for the deep, mysterious something which connects all of creation - has never stopped, never even paused, for a moment. And here we are again. It's important to understand that this is who we are. You and I are seekers on a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dryer malfunction" fire on MUM campus

2007-12-28 Thread Peter
--- mainstream20016 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ah'll betya dollars to donuts this fire was > another guy who didn't get > > the memo and after abhyanga, put a sesame oil > soaked cloth in the > > dryer, a

[FairfieldLife] All hail the French eco skeptic

2007-12-28 Thread shempmcgurk
Gore Milks Cash Cow, Sego May Run Again: What France Is Reading Review by Jorg von Uthmann Dec. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Climate-change skeptics are taking a beating these days even in France, where people long resisted the green creed. Paris bookstores brim with guidebooks -- including one shaped like

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -right. Even Charlie is now convinced (as I tried to tell him long > ago) that "the goods" can't be found with this particular Guru, in > any sense of some final conclusion; beyond a mere technique. Early > XMas mo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Gotcha" spoils a sermon about a non-personal God.

2007-12-28 Thread Angela Mailander
Curtis wrote (snipped): "So many assumptions, so little time." I think you nailed that one, Curtis. Plus the guy has this really annoying and patronizing vibe to him. If the universe is expanding, and I think it must be to contain us, then knowing all is never possible. If it were, it would s

[FairfieldLife] Where Yoga *IS* being taught in the context of Religion!

2007-12-28 Thread BillyG.
In Swami Paramahansa Yogananda's Bhagavad Gita, Swami Yogananda begins where MMY's leaves off! If you want to get the real message of the Bhagavad Gita read this one. I've read them both and I'm sorry to say, Swami Yogananda's is far superior. I almost didn't pick it off the bookshelf thinking I h

[FairfieldLife] Las Vegas going solar

2007-12-28 Thread do.rflex
Narrated slide show: http://www.csmonitor.com/slideshows/2007/eco_lasvegas/

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > essay "Quantum Consciousness, Quantum Miracles, Quantum Failure." It's > available here: > > http://www.geoffgilpin.com/pdfs/Quantum-Failure.pdf > What I am going to tell you about is what we teach our physics

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure Essay

2007-12-28 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Have I "got it"? No. Here's my Guru, who's yours? > http://www.buddhanet.net/masters/hsuan_hua.htm > Never had one - don't think I ever will, thank you. > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream2001

[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul on blacks

2007-12-28 Thread do.rflex
>From a 1992 article in the Ron Paul Political Report: Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liber

[FairfieldLife] Hmmm... upasarga??

2007-12-28 Thread cardemaister
One of the siddhis mentioned in Vibhuuti-paada of Yoga-darshana is puruSa-jñaanam. How can it be upasarga to samaadhi? :D

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dryer malfunction" fire on MUM campus

2007-12-28 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ah'll betya dollars to donuts this fire was another guy who didn't get > the memo and after abhyanga, put a sesame oil soaked cloth in the > dryer, a repeated cause of fires in FF: > > http://tinyurl.com/2b5hm4 >

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Gotcha" spoils a sermon about a non-personal God.

2007-12-28 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > http://www.perceivingreality.com/ > > > > H, I love this presentation. > > > > Except for the gotcha. It insults one just as the Amway shti