[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > [ed11 wrote:] > > > however the goal is actually reached by TRANSCENDING THE DOGMA, > > > whether it is the Buddhist ideals of compassion or whether it is > > > the TMO id

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gallup: Obama Wins 83% Approval Rating for Transition

Remember that penzoil commercial with the tag line, "because starting your car is a terrible thing to do" (unlubricated parts etc) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > PRINCETON, NJ -- President-elect Barack Obama receives a remarkably > high 83% approval r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ricardo Montalban, RIP

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > http://www.khaaan.com/ > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAAl2zfk684 > > Don't forget the soft corinthian leather! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGb

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS Talk-Guru

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > "The shop is open. So loot all you can." > > Da gansta guru. cool. > > "Keep me in your heart. When you are grateful, there is also a lot of > gratitude .. But all this should be converted into your soul and make > you blossom." > > Sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bishop Spong on Heaven and Hell

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > When you ask about "believing in Jesus Christ as your personal > savior" you are using stylized evangelical language. That language > has no appeal at all for me. To assert the role of savior for Jesus > implies a definition of human li

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS Talk-Guru

"The shop is open. So loot all you can." Da gansta guru. cool. "Keep me in your heart. When you are grateful, there is also a lot of gratitude .. But all this should be converted into your soul and make you blossom." Same concept as MMY presented in recent post / link from talks in India. Same m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Man refuses to drive 'No God' bus

  Easy fix for this guy's predicament is the bus company puts a bigger banner on the same side that contradicts the message.   "Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love."    - Amma  --- On Fri, 1/16/09, claudiouk wrote: From: claudiouk Subject: [Fairf

Re: [FairfieldLife] People who continue to meditate

  I used to work at a small business that was all TMers. One of my co-workers told me he made lots of calls to invite people who were on the Cambridge TM center list of intitiates and 90 percent of them said they did not meditate anymore. This was in 1978.  "Love will swallow you, eat you up c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ricardo Montalban, RIP

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > http://www.khaaan.com/ > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAAl2zfk684 Don't forget the soft corinthian leather! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o > (This was his *real chest*, BTW, not a prosthesis.) http://content6

[FairfieldLife] Bishop Spong on Heaven and Hell

Joanfrom Highlands, North Carolina, writes: Do you believe in heaven and hell, the blissful heaven and the burning hell? And do you believe in Jesus Christ as your personal savior? Dear Joan, [reply from Bishop Spong]: Answering your two questions is impossible until some terms are defined an

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > See you after midnight GMT Friday, September > > 23rd, hon. > > If only. Wow, I missed that. He really *is* out of his mind with joy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: [ed11 wrote:] however the goal is actually reached by TRANSCENDING THE DOGMA, whether it is the Buddhist ideals of compassion or whether it is the TMO ideals of living a Vedic life. depending on our path, the dogma must be absolutely tra

[FairfieldLife] Ricardo Montalban, RIP

http://www.khaaan.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAAl2zfk684 (This was his *real chest*, BTW, not a prosthesis.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > [ed11 wrote:] > > however the goal is actually reached by TRANSCENDING THE DOGMA, > > whether it is the Buddhist ideals of compassion or whether it is > > the TMO ideals of living a Vedic life. depending on our path, the > > dogma must b

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 10 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 17 00:00:00 2009 806 messages as of (UTC) Fri Jan 16 23:32:20 2009 62 enlightened_dawn11 50 authfriend 50 TurquoiseB 47 Vaj 42 I am the eternal 39 Arhata Osho 36 sparaig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Immortality -- logically explained

Edg, I don't read fFL consistently enough to know who you are or what you have been about here. I have read the Jericho Jerry, SSRS, and now now the hologram posts you made. Whoever you are, you have an incredible mind/intellect of your own - or maybe a slight flavor of mania allows you to

[FairfieldLife] Honey Bees and Gentically Modified Crops

Genetically Modified Crops Implicated in Honeybee Colony Collapse Disorder.eml (15KB Genetically Modified Crops Implicated in Honeybee Colony Collapse Disorder http://waronyou.com/topics/genetically-modified-crops-implicated-in-honeybee-colony-collapse-disorder/ Tags: SCIENCE/HEALTH As th

[FairfieldLife] Impeach Obama

I am already very bored with this dude. Can't we swap him out for someone a bit more exciting?

[FairfieldLife] from Pammy Icke's blog

http://flywithmeproductions.com/blog/ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

[FairfieldLife] Inspirational and Heart Touching Story "Family".

Inspirational and Heart Touching Story "Family".   I ran into a stranger as he passed by, "Oh excuse me please," was my reply.   He said, "Please excuse me too; I wasn't watching for you." We were very polite, this stranger and I. We went on our way saying good-bye.

[FairfieldLife] Apparitions (was Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Since stories about the Vatican have been in > > the air on FFL today, here´s another one. > > Vaguely related... > > The BBC recently ran a rather odd supernatural dram

[FairfieldLife] Immortality -- logically explained

http://tinyurl.com/9rgepd Does ya want to live forever? Nah, you want something better than that, right? The above article shows the way to think about "you" and how that "you" can be detected from 13 billion light years from Earth.and so much more. The article postulates that our universe

[FairfieldLife] Minnesotan's Global Warming Song

Some nice winter humor. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qJUFTm6cJXM&eurl=http:// www.grouchyoldcripple. com/&feature=player_ embedded http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/

[FairfieldLife] Brasscheck TV: Know your weapons - white phospheros

It's been around since WW I when it was a horror in the trenches. It causes a kind of fire you can't put out with a fire extinguisher and if it gets on human flesh, it will burn straight down the the bone - and keep burning. Now the Israeli military is dropping it from time to time on Gaza nei

[FairfieldLife] Software Glitch at Facebook

Yesterday the the group received a message, via facebook, seems to have been a software glitch at facebook. Our group, and a few other people who got the message, are not members of facebook, yet, though the software there sent the message to nonmembers despite not being told to do so. I'm sorry

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: WHAT IF?] Bevan and John Hagelin = Barry and "vaj"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > --- HA! Gotcha. HA HA-- no you didn't! Now you're judging people on what relative matters > constitute dogma and which topics are not. You say "genuine > devotion" is not dogma but genuine Buddhist or genuine Shiva devotion > is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sacred Confusion

---thx: bolsters my position (imo) on "dogmas" since to be judgemental in this area regarding what is and what is not dogma presumes that in the vast sea of "Mind" (ultimately, the entire relative aspect of Brahman); there are certain prohibited categories dependent solely on the content. As y

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: WHAT IF?] Bevan and John Hagelin = Barry and "vaj"

--- HA! Gotcha. Now you're judging people on what relative matters constitute dogma and which topics are not. You say "genuine devotion" is not dogma but genuine Buddhist or genuine Shiva devotion is OK, as well as your previously expoused political convictions prior to the election.. Why n

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > On topic: The problem with personal experience is our resistance to acknowledging the possibility of mistake, of cognitive errors. People Know their experience was meaningful and why would they want to hear that it was ordinary? Off top

[FairfieldLife] Gallup: Obama Wins 83% Approval Rating for Transition

PRINCETON, NJ -- President-elect Barack Obama receives a remarkably high 83% approval rating for the way in which he has handled the presidential transition, significantly higher than the approval level for either of his immediate predecessors just before they first took office. Obama's transit

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: WHAT IF?] Bevan and John Hagelin = Barry and "vaj"

i think my point is much clearer in my post to specifically address your question. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > -Your definition of "dogma" may be overly broad. It's not the > content, but the character of binding duality. Thus, to assess > another person as

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: WHAT IF?] Bevan and John Hagelin = Barry and "vaj"

-Your definition of "dogma" may be overly broad. It's not the content, but the character of binding duality. Thus, to assess another person as you are doing is rather presumptuous; since you have expressed various political viewpoints. By your same approach, your political viewpoints can just

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > -Depends on how you define DOGMA. Ramakrishna remained a devotee of > Kali after Self-Realization (Aurobindo - the Divine Mother, > likewise); and Ramana remained a devotee of Arunachala Shiva. Would > these relationships be "dogmas"?

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: WHAT IF?] Bevan and John Hagelin = Barry and "vaj"

one more point, to bring some balance vis a vis Buddhists and TMO, Barry and "vaj" are a lot more like Bevan and John Hagelin that it may appear. Although Barry and "vaj" see their allegiance to "His Holiness" the Dalai Lama and Bevan and John see their allegiance to the Maharishi, all four of

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

-Depends on how you define DOGMA. Ramakrishna remained a devotee of Kali after Self-Realization (Aurobindo - the Divine Mother, likewise); and Ramana remained a devotee of Arunachala Shiva. Would these relationships be "dogmas"? -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Man refuses to drive 'No God' bus

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7832647.stm maybe the slogan for a FFL bus should be: "There's probably no enlightenment so don't worry and enjoy your life" certainly FFL and the TMO don't inspire much confidence in "enlightenment" etc

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

i want to make a point here about enlightenment-- "vaj" argues below that he can both follow the dogma, and be -partially- enlightened. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE. unlike what his teachers have taught him (read $$$ and power for THEM), the experience of enlightenment is one of total freedom and comp

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

exactly what i would expect you to say-- in other words you want to keep your cake (ego) and eat it too! perfect-- you are proving my point every time you open that itty bitty little mouth of yours! right on-- thank you again, my servant "vaj"!:) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

no problem hon-- had some good stuff to say-- as "vaj" just demonstrated, timing is everything-- have fun without me! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > with any technique of transcendence, there comes a point where the > > devotee must make a choice, going with con

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: WHAT IF?] "vaj" the "enlightened one"

got it --holy crap! "vaj" thinks he is enlightened! that is a hoot. so you really think you are a Buddha, dude? its funny, because you behave so arrogantly and caustically here and you want us to all believe it is the expression of your "absolute compassion"- lol. this, ladies and gentlemen,

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

> with any technique of transcendence, there comes a point where the > devotee must make a choice, going with continuing dogmas, or going > for realization; enlightenment, at ALL COSTS. > > it is safe and easy to fool ourselves into thinking if we continue > to do "right action", as defined by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:33 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:02 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: however the goal is actually reached by TRANSCENDING THE DOGMA, whether it is the Buddhist ideals of compassion or whether it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: People who continue to meditate

glad to have one more in the plus column-- i think Sal was pretty accurate that around 5-10% still "do the do". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" wrote: > > Pasted below is an email I received today from an old highschool > classmate whom I apparently initiated back in '73,

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:02 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > > however the goal is actually reached by TRANSCENDING THE DOGMA, > > whether it is the Buddhist ideals of compassion or whether it is the > > TMO ideals of living a Vedic life. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reinventing the sacred; Get religious to improve self control?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > From atheist materialist Deric Bownd's MindBlog: > > Reinventing the sacred > > Those of us who are hard core materialists and have no use for > explanations of the natural order provided by any of the main > religions do have the problem

[FairfieldLife] The Terrorist's Exit Speech

Anyone else bother to watch Dubya's "Exit Speech" last night. Pretty pathetic. He tried his best to terrorize the country again with talk about terrorists trying to take over the country. Let's see, they already have from what I see. They ran the White House for the last 8 years and robbed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:02 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: however the goal is actually reached by TRANSCENDING THE DOGMA, whether it is the Buddhist ideals of compassion or whether it is the TMO ideals of living a Vedic life. It sounds like you lack an experiential understanding of the diffe

[FairfieldLife] People who continue to meditate

Pasted below is an email I received today from an old highschool classmate whom I apparently initiated back in '73, and the first part of my reply to him. Interesting in light of my guessistimation the other day re how many people might still be out there meditating but not part of any associa

[FairfieldLife] Obama's list of nine religious liberty issues

http://www.au. org/site/ PageServer? pagename= our_efforts_ 2009_nine_ in_09 Obama's list of nine religious liberty issues "As Barack Obama assumes the presidency, Americans United for Separation of Church and State has prepared a list of nine religious liberty issues

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

> > Years ago I posted to Usenet several comments > > describing my experience searching for the > > mysterious and legendary substance, the so-called > > 'magic' mushroom, mentioned by Carlos Casteneda > > in his great book about don Juan, 'A Yaqui Way > > of Knowledge'... > > off wrote: > T

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

with any technique of transcendence, there comes a point where the devotee must make a choice, going with continuing dogmas, or going for realization; enlightenment, at ALL COSTS. it is safe and easy to fool ourselves into thinking if we continue to do "right action", as defined by the ego, th

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

TurquoiseB wrote: > Research on enlightenment conducted by believers > in the religious or spiritual nature of enlight- > enment is *always* going to be bogus, because > the believers seemingly cannot divorce their > beliefs from what they are investigating... > But what about research conducted by

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS Talk-Guru

this is it-- exactly the same as Guru Dev said-- that the Guru is the conduit for aligning our minds to pure consciousness, and that we begin first by devoting ourselves to the guru, and then after some time realize the guru within us. i appreciate the concrete distinction that SSRS makes betwe

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Sam Harris is also a resource in this area. Thanks for the info. > > > On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:52 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > I do think that good scientific methodology can transcend (dare I use > > the term?) a researcher's bias. You ju

[FairfieldLife] Rip, Rig and Panic

"...one of the most unique and passionate recordings ever made." - Andrew Stevenson 'Rip, Rig and Panic' by Rahsaan Roland Kirk Polygram Records http://tinyurl.com/8t37k5 Other titles of interest: 'We Free Kings' by Rahsaan Roland Kirk Polygram Records http://tinyurl.com/a4ulw7 'Bright Momen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:52 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I do think that good scientific methodology can transcend (dare I use the term?) a researcher's bias. You just need some oversight in structuring it from a more impartial party. It doesn't surprise me that the people with the biggest belief

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:27 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" > > wrote: > > > > People with access to the tape > > > library are not selected for courage and insight. > > > > HaHa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rigged Trials at Gitmo: Air Force Major David Frakt

> > Apparently 61 of those freed from Club Gitmo > > are back on the battlefield. > > main wrote: > .or more likely, trying to survive, driving > a cab. > Maybe they are are training to be suicide bombers using cabs - I wouldn't be surprised. "Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said th

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > That > the traditional understanding of the states of mind brought about by > meditation and other "spiritual" techniques are NOT best understood by > people from the past who tended to filter everything through their Uga > Booga

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS Talk-Guru

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: I can't decide if Ravi should get an A in Self-Esteem Class, or an F for getting kinda carried away with himself. But one thing I do know is that I know myself fine and it has nothing to do with Shiva. (Or Jesus) It's just me in here and no one

[FairfieldLife] SSRS Talk-Guru

Here's a fun little talk that SSRS gave about the Guru function: If you want to come to me … by Guruji January 15, 2009 by Guru Kripa sri-ravishankar If You Want To Come To Me - Sri Sri "Praising me is not enough. I am not satisfied by your praises,gratefulness and gratitude. Do not just keep

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > In other words, "scientists" investigating a > > purely drug-related experience would not be > > tempted to project "God" or "perfection" onto > > reports of that experience. But believers in all > > of the historical religious

[FairfieldLife] Following Bush's final speech Chris Matthews summarizes Bush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QKvNavHGvk

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

> In other words, "scientists" investigating a > purely drug-related experience would not be > tempted to project "God" or "perfection" onto > reports of that experience. But believers in all > of the historical religious or "spiritual" spec- > ulations about what such an experience "means" > will

[FairfieldLife] Hillary's Confirmation Hearing for Secretary of State

http://tinyurl.com/9fl2n2

[FairfieldLife] Winter Poem

WINTER Poem It's winter in Iowa And the gentle breezes blow Seventy miles an hour At thirty-five below. Oh, how I love Iowa When the snow's up to your butt You take a breath of winter And your nose gets frozen shut. Yes, the weather here is wonderful So I guess I'll hang around I could never leave

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Passage to India

I just rented and saw for the umpteenth time Lean's "Lawrence of Arabia". Hadn't seen it in about 15 years and unlike some other movie classics I have revisited not only did it hold up, it seemed even better than I remembered it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"

[FairfieldLife] Re: was: MIT Blackjack. now: Shemp pierces delusions of grandeur

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" wrote: > > Shemp at his best - he blows away the MIT delusions of grandeur. > Great, focused, unrelenting post, Shemp. Thanks. > -Mainstream Well, gosh, thanks for appreciating my compulsiveness! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

[FairfieldLife] Coffee Prevents Alzheimer's and other coffee lore (was Re: Dear Jericho Jerry)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "pranamoocher" wrote: > > Debbie Jarvis- When I was on the CEG at MIU in the late 70's, we > heard that Debbie was supposed to be a connoisseur of coffee. So > one fine day a bunch of us Gov's/serfs wandered by her travel > office in the Admin. Bldg and she

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 14, 2009, at 11:28 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> Doesn't sound at all like the Shamatha Project, but instead a gift > >> from a friend in the early 70's. Whether it had anything to do with > >> his research at that time or not, I have no

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IF?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > WHAT IF THERE WERE A DRUG THAT: > > What if someone slipped you such a drug without you knowing > it and it produced all of the experiences listed above. > > Would you be able to distinguish what you were experiencing > from what you

[FairfieldLife] Siddhis for enlightenment?

Why does it seem to be necessary to have "at least" the eight mahaasiddhis for enlightenment? Well, it looks like one can't become vitRSNa (YS I 16: guNa-vaitRSNyam) or akusiida (YS IV 29) as to something one has not experienced or "tasted", can one? That would be a bit like calling a eunuch a br