a similar effect. It is, of course,
not the only yantra technique there is.
--- freeradicalfederation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Elevated intraocular pressure is the #1 risk factor
for glaucoma. We
have measured elevated intraocular pressure during
and immediately
after
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doesn't Rick have a point though? If IOP is significantly raised in a
statistically significant number of people practising TM and there is
a large population of those who have been practising for 30 plus
years, you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
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Try the warm Ghee eye bath for 3 days, twice a day, when you
, freeradicalfederation
no_reply@ wrote:
My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly
raise
intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant risk
factor for glaucoma, one of the leading treatable causes of blindness
worldwide. (TM doesn't appear to raise IOP
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 15, 2008, at 2:20 AM, hermandan0 wrote:
What's the IOP
history of your subjects before learning TM an TM-Sidhis?
Precisely. And since this obviously isn't a random sample how do we
know this does not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Or perhaps I haven't heard about it because it is a a parameter not
worth measuring, i.e. the increase in pressure is completely benign.
Seeing that TM is just a version of deep rest, I am at a loss why
any
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the eye pressure stay elevated, or just elevate during TM?
Could the
elevation be due to increased blood flow to the head, which is
reported to
happen during TM, but which presumably drops after meditation? And if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Aha! Now we're getting somewhere-- it is the physical movement
associated with the flying technique and/or the thinking at subtle
levels that cause this effect. Just TM won't do it, but the Sidhis
will.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have a background in scientific method and statistical
analysis?
yes
I don't practice TM in the traditional way and since I understand
the dangers of the TMSP, I wouldn't even consider practicing it.
I have
Can you point me to more information about the instrumentation
required to measure ultraweak photon emissions? Thanks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:21 AM
To: 'David
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of freeradicalfederation
Sorry, I read the post too quickly. I thought it was posted by David
OJ himself. I know him - I'll get in contact
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation wrote:
One interest of ours has been in identifying meditation techniques
that either do not have the IOP-increasing side effect or that might
even have
Good questions. I'll answer them below.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
How could a person find out if they high IOP? I like to do
shoulder stand and also
headstand.
The highest correlation, according to what I have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation
no_reply@ wrote:
Can you point me to more information about the instrumentation
required to measure ultraweak photon emissions? Thanks
1) a very dark
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, I do see a good ophthalmologist about every year, and I
will ask him about all of
this, including testing me after I do a headstand. With yoga
classes so popular these
days, and nearly everyone doing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jack Smith jacksmith8121@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
But in TM, thoughts aren't ever distracting.
doesn't acknowledge that TM
My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly raise
intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant risk
factor for glaucoma, one of the leading treatable causes of blindness
worldwide. (TM doesn't appear to raise IOP for everyone. However, I
think we need to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation
no_reply@ wrote:
My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly
raise
intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most significant
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 14, 2008, at 5:53 PM, freeradicalfederation wrote:
My data shows that TM and the TM-Sidhis program can significantly
raise intraocular pressure (IOP). Elevated IOP is the most
significant risk factor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe it's not the TM but the fact that most TMers do yoga not
headstands
usually but shoulder stands. My grandmother went blind from
glaucoma. I've
been meditating for 40 years and have excellent vision. Go figure.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
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Is increased pressure associated with increased heat?
Not in this case.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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no_reply
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Try the warm Ghee eye bath for 3 days, twice a day, when you are on
holiday, and not driving or doing much.
The netra basti has no beneficial effect on IOP that we can find. (If
any effect exists in the long term
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And congrats on maintaining excellent vision. I assume you at at least
55+ years old. If you don't require reading glasses, you are doing
great -- and it might even be fair to attribute your excellent vision
to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Furthermore, that doesn't address the issue of why TM would increase
eye pressure (IOP) to start with.
Er..it doesn't.
It is something else causing it silly.
OffWorld
I'll ignore your immature attitude
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
It is true that it is extraordinarily difficult to
distinguish between a cause and a correlation, but why
are so sure, Off, that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation
no_reply@ wrote:
snip The point is that the very existence of data on this phenomenon
is
noteworthy. Beyond this, I feel it is up to the TM organization
.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And you're sure the pressure is the problem, rather
than the heat?
--- freeradicalfederation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
Mailander
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