“..and in doing good to others.”
“A great man is he who lives the awareness of Being in his daily life and has
gained a state in which he naturally maintains his high status of eternal Being
even when engaged in activity and in doing good to others.” -Maharishi
-Unity, Maharishi International U
Yes, that is the purported intent of Rick's site. It started out that way, but
now has attracted all the people who make a living doing this stuff.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
What becomes more unique and compelling about Batgap is [Rick's] being able to
find and give voice
Rick should get someone much more scholarly [with credentials] to discern and
categorize the interviewees spiritually if Rick is going to publish a
categorical list like that and not just let some earnest friend go work on it.
First, Rick really ought to pull the list from the Batgap page ri
In a spectrum of practitioners : -Meditation teachers, -Subtle system teachers,
-Ritam Bhara Pragya people; as analogous to, 'Quietism', 'Piety' and
'Inspiration' in typology. In range and distribution of illumined Batgap
interviewees by type, just throwing these Batgap illumined people intervie
More in line with a western scholarly discernment of spirituality and spiritual
[the illumined/awakened] teachers, could be a spectrum of : -Meditation
teachers, -Subtle system teachers, -Ritam Bhara Pragya people; as analogous to,
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration' in typology.
See the rela
Another example of the relative blending of spiritual typology is George Fox,
spiritual teacher promulgating quietism who early on was also a pietist in the
pietistic sense of doing or working at energetic subtle system healing but then
stopped doing that work publicly because it distracted peop
The mystic separatists who were the antecedence of Amana in America were
inspirationist by spirituality type in practice and as a formed communal
spiritual group employing also daily quietism in substantial silent
transcendental meditative practice.
One can find illumined people in satsanga
On 5/19/2014 8:06 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Let's face it, that is what constitutes about 80% of your
participation here.
>
Almost every post of Barry's, even some movie or TV reviews, contains a
subtle, sometimes not so subtle, message to Judy, the only informant
that
On 5/19/2014 10:53 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It really cheapens the reality of what many of us here have been
through, and not without our doubts. The last thing I need to hear, is
some quitter, transferring his sense of failure onto the org that
kicked him out,
but I must
admit I have heard more stories like Barry's and Curtis' than the other side
like yours.
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Thank you for asking Michael. I was a full time, dedicated student and teacher
from the years of 1974-1981. I initi
Oh yeah, there was a western Mo. 'Capital', and an Eastern Mo. one. I don't
know if we ever visited each other's facilities - went up to Fairfield a few
times.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Yes, Jim, often Barry's experiences with the TMO don't jibe with my
experience. BTW, I
Yes, Jim, often Barry's experiences with the TMO don't jibe with my experience.
BTW, I had some involvement with the "Capital" in Ste. Genevieve, Mo. Taught
some courses down there. Had peripheral involvement with the buying and
building of it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
ame issues?
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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types
I have to say Barry, when I hear you talk about your experiences in
Californ
Thanks for this correction Steve. The Turq has claimed inside info on
something that happened 40 years ago, and why ? Because the others have either
moved on or are still around but shun this blog. The Turq is simply stuck in
stuff he didn't understand AND that happened 2 generations ago. I fe
Thanks for speaking up, Steve. I am so tired, as if it isn't obvious, of Barry,
who quit the TMO 40 years ago, after having failed both his students, and
himself. He then casts these false memories about, as if they were gold, and
should be taken Very Seriously.
Give me a break - Very Seriou
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I know nothing about Rymer, but what you describe of his interactions with
Maharishi was also true of Robin. There was no conflict between Robin and
Maharishi until he showed up with his group (of mostly TM teachers) in
Fairfield--seven years o
I know nothing about Rymer, but what you describe of his interactions with
Maharishi was also true of Robin. There was no conflict between Robin and
Maharishi until he showed up with his group (of mostly TM teachers) in
Fairfield--seven years or so after he had first claimed enlightenment--and
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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I have to say Barry, when I hear you talk about your experiences in California
as as Regional or State Coordinator, it doesn't jibe with my experience in the
Midwest, as it pertains to keeping people off c
I have to say Barry, when I hear you talk about your experiences in California
as as Regional or State Coordinator, it doesn't jibe with my experience in the
Midwest, as it pertains to keeping people off course etc.
You paint a very severe and petty picture which I do not recognize.
P.S. A
rank...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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types
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogro
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Curtis, do you remember wha
One can find illumined people in satsanga teaching quietism and piety blended
as meditational in guided chakra or subtle energy knowledge. Someone like
Ammachi is teaching and bringing pietism in the help she gives through the
field effect of darshan and her spiritual practices as modalities to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Ann, I just assumed these graphics are produced by that sweaty stud muffin on
the motorcycle (-:
No, no, important distinction - he was a bicycle rider. You don't sweat riding
a motorcycle and motorcyclists don't wear those huggy biking shor
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
No, you willfully turns what Maharishi said upside down which makes you, as
several here not just me has pointed out, a bogus and a liar. He claimed and
rightly so, that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness.
You still make
No, you willfully turns what Maharishi said upside down which makes you, as
several here not just me has pointed out, a bogus and a liar. He claimed and
rightly so, that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness.
You still make the very untrustworthy claim that your knowledge
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
One can't argue with deluded people. When Curtis claims knowledge is not
structured in consciousness he wants us to believe that he is the same when
tired, in deep sleep, after a couple of drinks, when playing "music" and in
meditation.
C: Ther
c of your question but it triggered that memory. Anyway there
were more than a few who announced their "whatever", and it never ended well.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:46 AM
Subjec
One can't argue with deluded people. When Curtis claims knowledge is not
structured in consciousness he wants us to believe that he is the same when
tired, in deep sleep, after a couple of drinks, when playing "music" and in
meditation. Right. If anyone doubted Curtis was delusional/and or a l
One don't see so many Ritam Bhara Pragya or 'inspired' people as modality as
often; however, Connie Huebner is a fabulous example of a classic school of
inspiration teachers operating in Ritam Bhara Pragya, very much like the
mystics of the old Amana Colony tradition going way back into a Europe
Buck, just off the top of my head, I'd call Francis Bennett a teacher. I'd call
Kirsten Kirk a healer. I'd put channelers in a different category. Doesn't seem
like enough categories. Maharishi and Amma I'd call masters.
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:17 PM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
Someone like Francis Bennett more recently coming out now awakened on
batgap.com is teaching now in a blush as a Quietist. Quietism is an earlier
word to transcendentalism. Francis now it seems is one in old quietism like
TM'ers are more narrowly modern day transcendentalist quietism. Maharishi
aphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Curtis, first I'd ask you to operationally define *being considered a dentist.*
Does it mean clients go to that so called dentist and let him or her work on
their teeth?
C: It means being
Ann, I just assumed these graphics are produced by that sweaty stud muffin on
the motorcycle (-:
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:42 AM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
My God, Ann, where do you find these graphics?!
Heh,
Curtis and turq, yes I am aware that there are boards for certifying dentists.
I ignored that path of discussion because there isn't such a system for
certifying spiritual teachers.
My main point is that individuals need to exercise due diligence. In the
absence of a certifying board, one can g
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Curtis, first I'd ask you to operationally define *being considered a
dentist.* Does it mean clients go to that so called dentist and let him or her
work on their teeth?
C: It means being certified by a board who looks after the public's welfare i
as
kinda DUMB?
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:26 PM
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Curtis, first I'd ask you to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
My God, Ann, where do you find these graphics?!
Heh, maybe a better question is who creates these things for me to find?
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:46 AM, "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoog
Curtis, first I'd ask you to operationally define *being considered a dentist.*
Does it mean clients go to that so called dentist and let him or her work on
their teeth? If it does, then I'd say that those probably toothless clients
need to find another system of determining who is qualified to
cannot
*conceive* of a world in which they are not as elite as they've been taught to
believe they are and claim they are.
From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:58 PM
S
My God, Ann, where do you find these graphics?!
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:46 AM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
turq, good point and I agree that we're all the same on some level. But if I
have a toothache for example,
LOL - good one! He is such a phony - The only reason Barry continuously brings
up the level setting, is for fear his lack of progress, in any domain of his
life, will be made obvious. What a little fake.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, w
To Share: But what if the criteria to be considered a "dentist" was just to put
a sign in front of your house that said "dentist?"
To Barry: I resonate with what you wrote and that is the direction of my
thinking on altered states of consciousness of all kinds. We have to drop the
traditionall
Buck, I probably won't forward your additional and very interesting comments to
my friend. At this point, I'm leaving it up to Rick meister (-:
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:23 AM, "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]"
wrote:
Maybe Rick can obtain a portable EEG machine and see what the EEG co
Maybe Rick can obtain a portable EEG machine and see what the EEG coherence of
each awkened person is like.
My guess is that there are going to be distinct differences between
traditions, and there will be, if you look closely enough, differences in
"experience" as well.
For example, TMer
More in line with a western scholarly discernment of spirituality and spiritual
[illumined/awakened] teachers, those: -Meditation teachers, -Subtle system
teachers, -Ritam Bhara Pragya people; as somewhat analogous to western,
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration' in typology. -Buck
In the w
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
turq, good point and I agree that we're all the same on some level. But if I
have a toothache for example, I'd rather consult with a good dentist rather
than a good podiatrist. My bad?
Perhaps not...
On Sunday, May 18, 20
No one is making the case for ranking anyone else, as a human being.
This persistent whine of yours, to just level-set everything; there is no
enlightenment, no witnessing, no comparative values, for anything is very
tiresome.
This allows you to hide your spiritual failings, your lack of
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:33 AM, "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]"
wrote: In range and distribution of illumined
Batgap interviewees by types, just throwing these Batgap illumined people
interviewed thus far on a scatter graph by their expe
On 5/18/2014 6:33 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
What is his spiritual experience around this that would allow him
to be on Buddha at the Gas Pump anyway?
>
According to what I've read, San Harris is a practicing Buddhist, so his
experiences would be probably simil
Om,
In the west the categorization of spirituality technically falls in to
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration'. The Batgap interviews in a more
scholarly way often fall nicely in to this typology when looked at this way.
-Buck Those would be safer demarcations to categorize by that could ha
In the west the categorization of spirituality technically falls in to
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration'. The Batgap interviews in a more
scholarly way often fall nicely in to this typology when looked at this way.
-Buck
Rick should get someone much more scholarly [with credentials] to di
Rick should get someone much more scholarly to discern and categorize the
interviewees spiritually if Rick is going to publish a categorical list like
that and not just some earnest friend. First Rick ought to pull the list from
the page for now, back up and think about it some more before publi
Yes, I noticed the attempt at categorization on Batgap. It is lame. -Buck
sharelong60 writes:
Buck, a friend is working on Rick's categories at his request and I'll forward
your comments to him.
In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just
throwing these
turq, good point and I agree that we're all the same on some level. But if I
have a toothache for example, I'd rather consult with a good dentist rather
than a good podiatrist. My bad?
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:53 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" wrote:
On Sunday,
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:33 AM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
wrote:
In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just
throwing these Batgap illumined people interviewed thus far on a scatter graph
by their experience and spiritual affect on others, it see
In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just
throwing these Batgap illumined people interviewed thus far on a scatter graph
by their experience and spiritual affect on others, it seems observable that
some of the awakened are more proactive in affect as teachers, som
Buck, a friend is working on Rick's categories at his request and I'll forward
your comments to him.
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:33 AM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
wrote:
In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just
throwing these Batgap illumine
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