Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-26 Thread Share Long
Lawson, thanks for the really thorough explanation. I especially like the example of the kittens raised in a unidirectional striped environment then not being able to see the missing direction. Along with that, I'd say that "shining ones" is simply another reference to how essential to human de

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-26 Thread LEnglish5
I would say that devas are labels given to fundamental behaviors and connections that enlightened sages perceived as existing within themselves and perceived as external to themselves as well. Of course, most neuroscientists are pretty confident that the only way we can interpret reality is b

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-26 Thread LEnglish5
"Mantra of personal god" is an interesting phrase. "personal god" is one way of translating the Yoga Sutra term, "ishtadeva," which can also be translated as "preferred shining one," which goes back to Maharishi's point about a mantra being an attractive object of attention (which is also tak

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-26 Thread LEnglish5
Herbert Benson called "The Relaxation Response" prayer early in his career, and expressed concerns that publishing positive research on its effects would get him ostracized. And yet, TM isn't really prayer in any normally accepted sense of the word I'm familiar with. Can you pray, not onl

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread steve.sundur
I haven't thought about it for some time, but I think at one time at least, I associated the troop of Maruts with clouds or some other phenomenon of nature. And there were other similar connections I made. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/25/2014 7:02 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners. > In fact, Bill, no informants hav

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
BTW noozguru, I somehow stumbled on that metabolic typing test the other day. Overwhelmingly fast metabolism, what they called a protein type. I'm using sprouts as a light protein in this kapha time... On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:   Spring is "kapha time" according

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Spring is "kapha time" according to ayurveda so it may become high. You can counter balance some of that heaviness with a pinch of ginger, cinnamon and a dash of cloves. I take a pinch of that after a meal and it does away with the craving for a desert. The prevailing paradigm for ayurveda

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods". They are metaphors for laws of physics. Can you expand on this a bit? Maybe say which one is doing what, like is Ganesh representing the second law of thermodynamics or gravity for instan

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Thanks for this noozguru. Actually I've been feeling the kapha a lot the last week or so, sort of heavy and lethargic. I'll try this and also avoiding any heavy foods. I guess the almond butter will have to wait til December! On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53 AM, Bhairitu wrote:   Of cour

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
emptybill, thank you for being so generous with your knowledge and time. It's a good day when I learn something new. Lots of knowledge here that's new for me so a really good day! On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:02 AM, "emptyb...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Recently I have read here on FFL an argu

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Devotional practices such as "bhakti" are also just tools. The ancient yogis needed a way to explain the laws of nature and the universe (physics) to simple folks. So they used metaphors. I was going to mention this in the thread about "quiet time" because the mantras really aren't "names of

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods". They are metaphors for laws of physics. As I have mentioned many times on FFL, this was so beautifully put at a talk given at a performance at a Katakali dance theater in Cochin. I like to call mantras "resonance patterns" because they reso

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
o.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 1:37 PM   Are you sure Mark is correct, Michael? Because

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
-- On Tue, 3/25/14, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@...> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 12:02 PM Recentl

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
me to him. On Tue, 3/25/14, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 12:

[FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread emptybill
Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the "meaning" of mantras. Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a