[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-24 Thread claudiouk
TM solution to all the problems - not if you're starving and need a meal right now or just want to make spectacular gains on the stock exchange (otherwise MMY for sure would have done so already!). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote, Christ returned

2005-05-23 Thread Ingegerd
Dear Lupidus. What MMY say and what he is - is not nessecarily the same. What does Benjamin Creme say about MMY? Personally - I believe in the possibility in every single people, Messiahs or not. Ingegerd -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? What happened

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Maharishi Effect is a specious bit of slop trop. While there's no doubt that people meditating together can produce good vibes and great amounts of silence, some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Don
Peter Sutphen wrote: --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Maharishi Effect is a specious bit of slop trop. While there's no doubt that people meditating together can produce good vibes and great amounts of silence, some soma for oneself and the enviroment, and soome bubbling

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread George DeForest
. Peter Sutphen wrote: MMY was never truly interested in a field effect of meditators, but only something scientific sounding to promote TM. I don't see him doing this insidiously, but he wanted certain results and got those results from his scientists. and yet, there are a few science

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Peter Sutphen wrote: MMY was never truly interested in a field effect of meditators, but only something scientific sounding to promote TM. I don't see him doing this insidiously, but he wanted certain results and got those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
How many of these are still there? Skip died, (didn't he?) I don't believe Veronica has much to do with the TMO, Orme-Johnson left years ago, Nancy Lonsdorf is either about to leave or is already gone...not sure about the others. On May 23, 2005, at 1:00 PM, George DeForest wrote: and yet,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Sutphen wrote: --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Maharishi Effect is a specious bit of slop trop. While there's no doubt that people meditating together can produce good vibes and great amounts of silence, some soma for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Vaj
Isn't the whole basis of coherence really Yoga-sutra II:35?: When a yogi has firmly established the principle of non-violence in himself, there occurs a natural loss of hostility [in the minds of others] in his environment. I honestly have to say I don't think yogic hopping achieves this. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Don
Peter Sutphen wrote: --- Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Sutphen wrote: --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Maharishi Effect is a specious bit of slop trop. While there's no doubt that people meditating together can produce good vibes and great amounts

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the whole basis of coherence really Yoga-sutra II:35?: When a yogi has firmly established the principle of non-violence in himself, there occurs a natural loss of hostility [in the minds of others] in his

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread shukra69
As one of the english speaking white people that has lived in Quebec I would say that Shemps comments are pretty silly. We are obviously not a perfect society here in Canada, and I doubt that there is anything like 1% meditating with TM any more. But the Canadian story IS one of a peaceful

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine was in the MIU neuroscience doctoral program when a Governor researcher presented a pilot study indicating that systematic muscle relaxation was more effective in the treatment of migraines than TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread jim_flanegin
That's funny, I heard the most effective treatment for migranes was to break one's fvckin' legs... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine was in the MIU

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine was in the MIU neuroscience doctoral program when a Governor researcher presented a pilot study indicating that systematic muscle relaxation was more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the whole basis of coherence really Yoga-sutra II:35?: When a yogi has firmly established the principle of non-violence in himself, there occurs a natural loss of hostility [in the minds of others] in his environment. I honestly have to say I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Llundrub
This the the first board to officially put the veda back into fvcking. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote That's funny, I heard

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread Vaj
On May 23, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Rick wrote: What is an accomplishment siddhi? Can you elaborate a little on this? It's a siddhi that arises just due to the natural process of awakening--you don't use formulae as in samyama, it's natural. There are only certain ones you need (or not) for

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine was in the MIU neuroscience doctoral program when a Governor researcher presented a pilot study indicating that systematic muscle relaxation was more effective in the treatment of migraines

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-23 Thread sparaig
Where do you get your info? Veronica Butler presented research at a meeting on Vedic Architecture last year. Orme-Johnson retired,then came back to collarborate in brain imaging studies on TM with oneof the pioneers of brain imaging. Aleric Arenander is head of some dept or another at MUM.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread Ingegerd
In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fax from Benny Feldman to Bobby Roth 12/24/94 Jai Guru Dev We came across an interesting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? And some parts of Canada had over 1%. Canada IMO is a sattvic country--certainly compared to the US. Inner spirituality in general is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? And some parts of Canada had over 1%. Canada IMO is a sattvic

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? Ingegerd Let's see. Since the '70s, Canada has almost broken up twice because of Quebec separatism (and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2005, at 1:57 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Canada is a racist country on the verge of splitting up. How sattvic is that? Their murder rate is very low compared to the US. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread WLeed3
PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:57:33 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote, Christ returned

2005-05-22 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fax from Benny Feldman to Bobby Roth 12/24/94 Jai Guru Dev We came across an interesting quote from the 1600¹s. We are going to popularize this vision showing that with the group of 7,000 flyers in Israel we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote, Christ returned

2005-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2005, at 3:22 PM, lupidus108 wrote: The connection between Maharishi and the Messiah has been obvious from day one. Ingegerd even stated that Maharishi was quoted saying that he confirmed yes when asked if he was the Messiah. But let us not get confused about the terms here. A

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote, Christ returned

2005-05-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/22/05 3:26:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But let us not get confused about the terms here. A "Messiah" is a envoy of truth, not necessarily Jesus or the Christ.Wouldn't you have to be circumcised? Yes , if you come from the line of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote, Christ returned

2005-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2005, at 4:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes , if you come from the line of Abraham. Since when are Hindus put through Abrahamic genital mutilation? Doesn't sound Vedic to me. I'm writing the Jedi council. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:57 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Canada is a racist country on the verge of splitting up. How sattvic is that? Their murder rate is very low compared to the US. They don't have as many bad guys to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
was a big THANKS! was it not? No. -Original Message- From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:57:33 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread Cliff
You haven't been to Montreal, Vaj, if you think Canadian cities are spotless! Looks alot like Paris - lots of trash in the streets. Fun place to be, but hardly spotless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Ingegerd wrote: In the 70ths the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You haven't been to Montreal, Vaj, if you think Canadian cities are spotless! Looks alot like Paris - lots of trash in the streets. Fun place to be, but hardly spotless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote, Christ returned

2005-05-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/22/05 3:47:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes , if you come from the line of Abraham.Since when are Hindus put through Abrahamic genital mutilation? Doesn't sound Vedic to me.I'm writing the Jedi council. That was my point! Hindus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/22/05 4:30:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Canada is a racist country on the verge of splitting up. How sattvic is that? Their murder rate is very low compared to the US.They don't have as many bad guys to kill... Maybe we can

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 70ths the Movement told us that 1 % had learned TM in Israel and Canada. Whar happened to the 1% effect? What happened to it in Fairfield where the crime rate has steadily risen??? To subscribe, send a message

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7,000 in Israel quote

2005-05-22 Thread Llundrub
ns with three crosses will find shelter and will be saved to live after in abundance, happiness and love, because there will be no more wars." - Original Message - From: johnlasher20002000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: