Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, your comment here about being either bound or free is pretty profound. Can we not be both? A favorite book title I've shared before: Freedom Doesn't Mind Its Chains. On Monday, August 18, 2014 3:15 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/19/2014 9:39 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, your comment here about being either bound or free is pretty profound. Can we not be both? A favorite book title I've shared before: Freedom Doesn't Mind Its Chains. We are either free or we are bound.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, this reminds me of something David Deida talks about on youtube. I'm gonna paraphrase: that we're like the light coming in through a broken, dirty, stained glass window. Successful therapy leads to fixing the broken glass; successful yoga leads to cleaning the dirty glass; but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/19/2014 10:51 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, this reminds me of something David Deida talks about on youtube. I'm gonna paraphrase: that we're like the light coming in through a broken, dirty, stained glass window. Successful therapy leads to fixing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He who knows is silent; he who does not, speaks. well that sure nails it as far as you are concerned, meaning that you yap so much because you don't know shit from Shine-ola. From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, it's a very fascinating phenomenon, this whole thing about silence and words. I like to think about it from the perspective of signal and noise. Even online! How much static is drowning out the message? When you're on all cylinders, it's all signal, no noise! Well, very little noise

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/19/2014 12:04 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, it's a very fascinating phenomenon, this whole thing about silence and words. I like to think about it from the perspective of signal and noise. Even online! How much static is drowning out the message?

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread feste37
That's pretty funny. You definitely have a gift for fiction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : A Day in the Life (of a TM'er) Governor wakes up, but in fact he has not been asleep having witnessed his sleep all night long and we all know that witnessing sleep is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am chagrined for the three or four of you, who are into this. Dim dreams and fantasies of old geezers. Do you guys really care about all of this, still? I thought the big thing around here was to demonstrate mindfulness and being in the now and not being a cult member, and here you all are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/17/2014 8:18 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll post it tomorrow - I have to cognize what Big Bopper Bevan would say. Great, but don't forget to fix that computer and send that child support payment!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
feste, I often find MJ's writing zestier when he writes about his own life or the life of people he actually, you know, knows! On Monday, August 18, 2014 7:52 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   That's pretty funny. You definitely have a gift for fiction. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I mean Michael's post are often entertaining in the sense that they often don't make much sense. (-: In one case, he will say TM is a totally ineffective technique. In another, he will say it causes too much purification. Then we hear, that any benefits, or experiences during meditation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/17/2014 9:15 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I had to look up chymus - don't worry - it gets better - wait till you read what happens to all the naysayers and neganauts!!! So, we know what you'll be doing this week. But, when are you going to work?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/18/2014 7:52 AM, feste37 wrote: That's pretty funny. You definitely have a gift for fiction. And, a lot of time on his hands. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : A Day in the Life (of a TM'er) Governor wakes up, but in fact he has not been asleep having

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks Feste. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)   That's pretty funny. You definitely have a gift for fiction.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
your enlightenment has robbed you of what little sense of humor you may have had  - when people bristle at satire they are defending what is indefensible. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Michael, I may not be up on my english language conventions, but wouldn't satire be something that stands out from normal writing? I mean this is just your usual content, so I really wouldn't say it qualifies as satire, at least for you. Maybe I'm just being too picky. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think it is rather difficult to parse out the 'Biggest Most Meaningful Event in your entire lives!!!'= For me learning TM was a significant event in light of subsequent events. But several years before, an event occurred that eventually led to TM, and I think that prior event was more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/18/2014 8:57 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am chagrined for the three or four of you, who are into this. Dim dreams and fantasies of old geezers. Do you guys really care about all of this, still? I thought the big thing around here was to demonstrate

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread salyavin808
Much to think about as always. I like the idea that everyone thinks they see the truth, letting go of that is an essential first step. I think I have a well functioning bullshit detector, but is that the case? We need some sort of framework to stay sane but hopefully one that doesn't dismiss

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, how did TM change your life? You say it wasn't in the advertised way yet you continue to practice it. So, I'm guessing it's been a good change. On Monday, August 18, 2014 12:58 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Much to think about as always. I like the idea that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, how did TM change your life? You say it wasn't in the advertised way yet you continue to practice it. So, I'm guessing it's been a good change. = In some ways it's been good, in most it's been a non-change. The lasting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, in light of how much I've been badgering you about this, I really appreciate your honesty (-: On Monday, August 18, 2014 1:51 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, how did TM change your life?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/18/2014 11:43 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: your enlightenment has robbed you of what little sense of humor you may have had - when people bristle at satire they are defending what is indefensible. Logical fallacy: A fallacy is an argument that uses

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, in light of how much I've been badgering you about this, I really appreciate your honesty (-: = That's OK, I haven't actually told you anything about me really. Just what I think about things. = But to actually

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I thought TM had changed my life too till I woke up and realized it had changed it much for the worse, not for the better. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I thought TM had changed my life too till I woke up and realized it had changed it much for the worse, not for the better. = That was my realisation with the siddhis Quitting that foolishness was one of the best things I ever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The thing that makes TM a cult is that anyone -- at any time since it was introduced -- ever considered TM more than what it was: a simple, made-up, beginner's technique of basic meditation. To consider it more -- let alone to believe that learning it had the power to be a big event in one's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/18/2014 12:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Much to think about as always. I like the idea that everyone thinks they see the truth, letting go of that is an essential first step. I think I have a well functioning bullshit detector, but is that the case? We need some sort of framework to stay

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/18/2014 1:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, how did TM change your life? You say it wasn't in the advertised way yet you continue to practice it. So, I'm guessing it's been a good change. = In some ways it's been good, in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/18/2014 2:11 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I thought TM had changed my life too till I woke up and realized it had changed it much for the worse, not for the better. You sound kind of depressed. Maybe that would explain why you don't sleep much anymore -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/18/2014 2:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The thing that makes TM a cult is that anyone -- at any time since it was introduced -- ever considered TM more than what it was: a simple, made-up, beginner's technique of basic meditation. To consider it more --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I was yawning, not bristling...now back to gumming your oatmeal... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : your enlightenment has robbed you of what little sense of humor you may have had - when people bristle at satire they are defending what is indefensible. From:

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-17 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : A Day in the Life (of a TM'er) Governor wakes up, but in fact he has not been asleep having witnessed his sleep all night long and we all know that witnessing sleep is the acid test of conscious awareness. He gets up, stretches

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'll post it tomorrow - I have to cognize what Big Bopper Bevan would say. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-17 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I'll post it tomorrow - I have to cognize what Big Bopper Bevan would say. Good luck with that! I wouldn't want his words in my head. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comTo:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-17 Thread Duveyoung
I ran outta chymus at the second paragraph, and then by paragraph five the dry heaves were too painful for me to continue. Have mercy on us, Sir, have mercy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I had to look up chymus - don't worry - it gets better - wait till you read what happens to all the naysayers and neganauts!!! From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:41 PM Subject: Re:

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Day in the Life (of A TM'er)

2014-08-17 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is priceless, up there with Barry's best productions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : A Day in the Life (of a TM'er) Governor wakes up, but in fact he has not been asleep having witnessed his sleep all night long and we all know that witnessing sleep is the