--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
You still have to perfect nirodha, total cessation (of
breath
and mind)
This is the early stages of TM.
Really? In the early stages of TM people cease
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 11/4/05 8:04 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get this and find it just as boring a lot of the time and
would like
to avoid it if I could.
I had the same problem with sleep. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
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Tom T writes:
It is my experience that one can have complete awareness of
surroundings during sleep. The only
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'll leave that topic for the diehard M. fans to chew on.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
IMO, no he does not touch on the full criteria and experience of
turiyatita (Cosmic Consciousness),
At least you agree its your opinion...
let alone the full path to
attain it--although he does admit that 1) samkhya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 10:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
told. It's funny where the experience stops is almost always
there--
sometimes with the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 4, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
on 11/4/05 8:04 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get this and find it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom T writes:
It is my experience that one can have complete awareness of
surroundings during sleep. The only problemo is that of complete and
utter boredom. It is like watching the old Test
On Nov 3, 2005, at 10:39 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] told. It's funny where the experience stops is almost always there-- sometimes with the occasional embellishment or addition. That's very telling, esp. if you have experience
On Nov 3, 2005, at 10:39 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:11 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote: It's mildly
On Nov 4, 2005, at 12:09 AM, akasha_108 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll leave that topic for the diehard M. fans to chew on. Hmmm, so you won't answer the
On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote: You still have to perfect "nirodha", total cessation (of breath and "mind")This is the early stages of TM. Really? In the early stages of TM people cease breathing for hours or day at a time? Are Buddhists still on the slow boat to Never
I
get this and find it just as boring a lot of the time and would like
to avoid it
if I could.
I had the same
problem with sleep. I dont think sleeping less is a huge sign of
enlightenment, so Im not claiming anything, but there was a good year of
my life (and it still happens
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 4, 2005, at 12:09 AM, akasha_108 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll leave that
On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:25 AM, akasha_108 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 4, 2005, at 12:09 AM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
You still have to perfect nirodha, total cessation (of
breath
and mind)
This is the early stages of TM.
Really? In the early stages of TM people cease
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's
on 11/4/05 8:04 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get this and find it just as boring a lot of the time and would like
to avoid it if I could.
I had the same problem with sleep. I dont think
On Nov 4, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
on 11/4/05 8:04 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get this and find it just as boring a lot of the time and would
like
to avoid it if I could.
I had the same problem with sleep. I don’t think sleeping less is
a huge
on 11/4/05 5:35 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the way I feel as well. There's nothing nicer than good yogic
sleep--as you awake feeling much fresher than even the best regular
sleep--and then awakening several hours before dawn to do a nice long
practice in the quiet before
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 4, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
on 11/4/05 8:04 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get this and find it just as boring a lot of the time and would
like
to avoid it if I could.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 11/4/05 5:35 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the way I feel as well. There's nothing nicer than good
yogic
sleep--as you awake feeling much fresher than even the best
regular
sleep--and then
on 11/4/05 6:23 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When were you in Murren, Rick, and for how long?
I suspect it was in April-May of 1974? Because that is where I did
my TTC, starting in early May of 1974.
We were there with Maharishi for a month that Spring. I think the TTC came
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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on 11/4/05 6:23 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When were you in Murren, Rick, and for how long?
I suspect it was in April-May of 1974? Because that is where I
did
my TTC, starting in early May
Meditating, reading, walking in
the woods, etc.
You have woods there, now?
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 11/4/05 8:04 AM, Paula Youmans at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get this and find it just as boring a lot of the
time and would like
to avoid it if I could.
on 11/4/05 8:35 PM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Meditating, reading, walking in
the woods, etc.
Plenty of them. Jefferson County Park for starters. About 5 miles of trails
through the woods there. Lansom woods just down the street from me. Lots of
other woods with trails in
I enjoy sleeping but I would love to be able to get by on a few
hours. There are so many things I would rather be doing.
Meditating, reading, walking in the woods, etc.
That's the way I feel as well. There's nothing nicer than good yogic
sleep--as you awake
Desires so deep, they even have to do with sleep. :)
Not exactly, nothing can be added to this
state, and nothing can be
taken away.
Heyyou try sleeping for 4 hours a
night for a year or so and tell me what weird ass hobbies youve picked
up lol.
I think people *seriously*
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's
on 11/4/05 11:57 PM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Desires so deep, they even have to do with sleep. :)
Not exactly, nothing can be added to this state, and nothing can be
taken away.
Heyyou try
on 11/4/05 11:53 PM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I enjoy sleeping but I would love to be able to get by on a few
hours. There are so many things I would rather be doing.
Meditating, reading, walking in the woods, etc.
That's the way I feel as well. There's nothing nicer than
Aside from the fact that you had too much time on your
hands and you were
always conscious, how did you feel? Did you feel
good, or strung out, tired,
and wired?
I felt goodgenerally. Not tired at
all or I could have slept I am assuming.
It felt like being very awake. Kind of how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes it's weird knowing the Enlightened Emperor is wearing no
clothes.
A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness
seem to miss. Funny how you only get as enlightened as you were
told to...
On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:49 PM, authfriend wrote:
Vaj, you'd be a lot less confused if you just
considered MMY's system on its own terms and
didn't keep trying to compare it with other
systems that may use similar terms to mean
very different things with different criteria.
No confusion here.
On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
It's mildly interesting to know that different
systems put their labels at different stages of the
enlightenment process, but it says nothing
whatsoever about the relative effectiveness of the
systems.
That's just it, it's the same label:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
It's mildly interesting to know that different
systems put their labels at different stages of the
enlightenment process, but it says nothing
whatsoever about the relative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes it's weird knowing the Enlightened Emperor is wearing
no
clothes.
A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic
Consciousness
seem to miss. Funny how you only get as enlightened as you were
told to...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
One point I took away, with endless descriptions of deep experience,
with MMY commenting, night after night, month after month, was
labeling was not very important. People had good experience and he
would say,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
It's mildly interesting to know that different
systems put their labels at different stages of the
enlightenment process, but it says nothing
whatsoever about the relative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Vaj wrote:
Since integration of the senses with pure consciousness is complete
in CC, one retains complete awareness of surroundings during sleep.
That is, one would continue to hear
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
One point I took away, with endless descriptions of deep
experience,
with MMY commenting, night after night, month after month, was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:11 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Nov 3, 2005, at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll leave that topic for the diehard M. fans to chew on.
Hmmm, so you won't answer the question...
He's like Bush. He doesn't need to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Vaj wrote:
Since integration of the senses with pure consciousness is complete
in CC, one retains complete awareness of surroundings during sleep.
That is, one would continue to hear
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