[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

'bhakta' - adj. divided into parts, separate, devoted, engrossed, attentive, attached, cooked, pious; n.mas. a votary, a devout person, a worshipper, a follower. Incidentally, I ommitted to mention that connecting my own database dictionary of Hindi & Sanskrit words, I then use a specially evol

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > > > Re: Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Response below. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > 'Bhagavad' is the word used in the text (I ju

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Response below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > 'Bhagavad' is the word used in the text (I just double-checked). But > > of course the transcriber could have misheard or indeed th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > [...] > > > And the translation refers to the one who wa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > [...] > > And the translation refers to the one who was going to the guru as a > > "guru-bhakt" at least TM teacher / gov. We do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > [...] > > And the translation refers to the one who was going to the guru as a > > "guru-bhakt" at least TM teacher / gov. We do, or have, followed a > > teache

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Resend - other copy incorrect Hi, I am already acquainted with Dana Sawyer, thanks. He sent me a very interesting essay to read on his meetings around Rishikesh. I liked his no-nonsense style and his humour, I hope he gets around to publishing such stuff. As for his being fluent in Hindi, I wonder

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > In Seelisberg, Mahesh quipped *if your guru isn't giving you what you > > want, get a different guru* -- I'm sure I've mentioned this before. > > That appea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > And the translation refers to the one who was going to the guru as a > "guru-bhakt". A guru follower. To me, that sounds like your typical > meditator or at least TM teacher / gov. We do, or have, followed a > teac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > wrote: > > > > Comment below: > > ** > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > As Alex pointed out, though, the quote doesn't appear > >> > to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not the kind > >> > of personal guru that Gu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make > another. > > But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is [just] mind's > > ima

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Hi, I am already acquainted with Dana Sawyer, thanks. He sent me a very interesting essay to read on his meetings around Rishikesh. I liked his no-nonsense style and his humour, I hope he gets around to publishing such stuff. As for his being fluent in Hindi, I wonder if this is correct? With

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment below: > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > **Snip** > > > > > > Since everyone on this forum has dealt with the issue of where > they > > > (and others they may disag

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment below: > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make another. > But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is [just] mind's > imagination. The guru is gone to for [ones own] happiness. Up until > when

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus on 9/4/06 4:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is "puzzling" is, refering to Ricks point, if one has a new > teacher, why do theywant / seek / insist on being admitted back into the > fold /prac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Bhagavad' is the word used in the text (I just double-checked). But > of course the transcriber could have misheard or indeed the > typesetter might have mispelled the word. But either way, Bhagavan or > Bhagavad,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > Any comments on the substantive points I raised? I think they are > > important. > > Nah, I'm not inclined to get into a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

'Bhagavad' is the word used in the text (I just double-checked). But of course the transcriber could have misheard or indeed the typesetter might have mispelled the word. But either way, Bhagavan or Bhagavad, same really, means 'Lord' or 'God' or 'OMnipotent One'. I wouldn't describe myself as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > Any comments on the substantive points I raised? I think they are > > important. > > Nah, I'm not inclined to get into any detailed discussions > with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > All other quotes are available on the web site. > > Paul is hardly withholding anything (which ofcourse you did not say,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any comments on the substantive points I raised? I think they are > important. Nah, I'm not inclined to get into any detailed discussions with you; they never seem to me to go much of anywhere, sorry. Liked your post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > All other quotes are available on the web site. > > Paul is hardly withholding anything (which ofcourse you did not say, > > but, IMO, implied.) > > Yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: > > > > > >> > As Alex pointed out, though, the quote doesn't appear > > >> > to be relevant to this g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/4/06 4:04 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > , Rick Archer wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> on 9/4/06 2:26 PM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All other quotes are available on the web site. > Paul is hardly withholding anything (which ofcourse you did not say, > but, IMO, implied.) You're quite mistaken on that point. How could he be "withholding" anything

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make > another. > > But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is [just] mind's > > ima

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Seelisberg, Mahesh quipped *if your guru isn't giving you what you > want, get a different guru* -- I'm sure I've mentioned this before. That appears consistent with the SBS quote "The guru is gone to for [ones own] h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus on 9/4/06 4:04 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gee, we just had a discussion about Guru Dev's views > on who could and could not be a guru, and most here > seemed to agree Guru Dev wasn't unimpeachable on that > point at all. Out of all posters, and certainly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment below: > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > **Snip** > > > > > > Since everyone on this forum has dealt with the issue of where > they > > > (and others they may disa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/4/06 3:36 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > In Seelisberg, Mahesh quipped *if your guru isn't giving you what you > >> > want, get a different guru* -- I'm sure I've mentioned this before. I >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > As Alex pointed out, though, the quote doesn't appear > >> > to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not the kind > >> > of personal guru that Gu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus on 9/4/06 3:36 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In Seelisberg, Mahesh quipped *if your guru isn't giving you what you > want, get a different guru* -- I'm sure I've mentioned this before. I > hadn&#

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make another. > But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is [just] mind's > imagination. The guru is gone to for [ones own] happiness. Up until > whe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > **Snip** > > > > Since everyone on this forum has dealt with the issue of where they > > (and others they may disagree with) stand regarding their > > relationship with Maharishi, whether as their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > As Alex pointed out, though, the quote doesn't appear > >> > to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not the kind > >> > of personal guru that Gu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As Alex pointed out, though, the quote doesn't appear > to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not the kind > of personal guru that Guru Dev was referring t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment below: > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make > > anot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make > another. > > But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make > another. > > But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is [just] mind's > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on changing gurus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Some people say that having taken a guru you should not make another. > But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is [just] mind's > imagination. The guru is gone to for [ones own] happiness. Up until > whe