Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-05 Thread Peter
Years ago in Ffld I used to meditate on a sheep skin. It was quite cozy and warm on those cold winter mornings in the dome. But I always picked-up a subtle, but uncomfortable vibe from it. Then one day in meditation I spontaneously had a very clear cognition of the extreme distress of the sheep

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:31 AM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---On an ATR, again a small group, a quite obnoxious canadian teacher asked in silly, crude, fashion about why we need to be celibate when sex is so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:01 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:31 AM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---On an ATR, again a small group, a quite obnoxious canadian teacher asked in silly, crude, fashion about why we

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: I

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: for fastest evolution, be celibate. Sure, but not if it's a struggle. Lets clarify. For the public / mediators. mmy did not have a message

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold showers? You mean John Knapp's wet diapers story on Trancenet? To subscribe, send

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: for fastest evolution, be celibate. Sure, but not if it's a struggle.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers on 8/4/06 12:01 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are talking Dec 1974, right? First sex-segregated ATR course. Yup. Hotel Alexander, Weggis, Switzerland. I was sitting on the floor in front of MMY. You were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it  a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold  showers? You mean John Knapp's "wet

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers on 8/4/06 12:07 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold showers? MMY told us to take cold baths

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: **SNIP** There's a continuum here: Don't be celibate -- be celibate if it's comfortable -- be celibate at all costs. I haven't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:07 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold showers? MMY told us to take cold baths on my 6-month course.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it 

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. Thanks. Yep that's it, except the people I talked to learned it in Switzerland. They weren't diapers, they were of course, dhotis. dhotis? thats quite something else -- overall body wrap. The underwear were loincloths

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. Thanks. Yep that's it, except the people I talked to learned it   in Switzerland. They weren't diapers, they were of course, dhotis. dhotis? thats quite something else --

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an interesting comment on deerskins. on edge of seat which was... :-) Its in the akashic record. Hear it for yourself. Its on that bookshelf five rows down from

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 12:01 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are talking Dec 1974, right? First sex-segregated ATR course. Yup. Hotel Alexander, Weggis, Switzerland. I was sitting on the floor in front of MMY.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Marek Reavis
These would be loincloths (kaupin) rather than dhotis. Anyone else wear these, too? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: MMY did make quite a big point of it (celibacy) to TMO teachers at times. For example: -- At the beginning of my TTC, 200 or so in intimate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers on 8/4/06 2:54 PM, Marek Reavis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These would be loincloths (kaupin) rather than dhotis. Anyone else wear these, too? Most of the guys on International/Purusha, including I, wore them. Probably some

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread gullible fool
Someone in my CCP pod at MUM in 82-83 wore something to cool the testicles on a regular basis. Regarding all the previous comments about whether celibacy was strongly suggested or not, I would like to add that many times I heard governors in ff say celibacy was necessary to attain Brahman. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:35 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an interesting comment on deerskins. on edge of seat which was... :-) Its in the akashic record. Hear it for yourself.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:35 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an interesting comment on deerskins. on

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: MMY did make quite a big point of it (celibacy) to TMO teachers at times.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:01 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 11:31 AM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---On an ATR, again a small group, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: MMY

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:35 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote:Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough  Sony's superficial "protection" scheme, here is what S. said: "If people knew the real reason for using a deerskin to meditate on, there would be a great shortage of deerskins". Here's

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 2:54 PM, Marek Reavis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These would be loincloths (kaupin) rather than dhotis. Anyone else wear these, too? Most of the guys on International/Purusha, including I, wore

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Was Nablus's quote about an agreement with the body said to teachers? If so, it would be both. Thats a phrase I never heard him use with

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real reason for using a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:11 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial "protection" scheme, here is what S. said: "If

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, give me some kusha grass or a simple silk asana any day. So you medititate on grass? Sitting on silk. From Neiman Marcus? Your yoga ensemble? I hope its in nice summer colors. Yuppie on to Nirvana! :) To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real reason for using a deerskin to meditate on, there would be a great shortage of

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If