[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and religious fanaticism?

2018-07-21 Thread srijau
proof is to the opposite http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/SocietalEffects/Critics-Rebuttals/index.cfm#Fales_and_Markovsky http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/SocietalEffects/Critics-Rebuttals/index.cfm#Fales_and_Markovsky religious fanaticism is no different than political fanaticism , same k

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and QE?

2013-07-27 Thread card
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > > > > Is it at least remotely possible that ME could be > > based on Quantum Entanglement, or is that absolutely > > outta question?? > > > > Wiki: > In quantum entanglement, pa

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and QE?

2013-07-26 Thread card
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > Is it at least remotely possible that ME could be > based on Quantum Entanglement, or is that absolutely > outta question?? > Wiki: In quantum entanglement, part of the transfer happens instantaneously.[8] Repeated experiments have verifi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me - a hidden cult leader

2012-11-14 Thread Jason
> > > > --- "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > Heh � I'm thinking about starting my own group of "devotees". > > > However, I don't want them thinking I'm just exploiting them > > > for my own satisfaction -- you know, for all the same old > > > stuff. - money, babes and ego adoration. > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me - a hidden cult leader

2012-11-14 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > Heh � I'm thinking about starting my own group of "devotees". > > However, I don't want them thinking I'm just exploiting them > > for my own satisfactio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me - a hidden cult leader

2012-11-14 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Heh � I'm thinking about starting my own group of "devotees". > However, I don't want them thinking I'm just exploiting them for my own > satisfaction � you know, for all the same old stuff. - money, babes > and ego adoration. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me - a hidden cult leader

2012-11-13 Thread awakened_yeti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow DONT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE WORD??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Heh … I'm thinking about starting my own group of "devotees". > However, I don't want them thinking I'm just exploiting them for my own > satisfaction …

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME or PE?

2012-11-05 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Now, I do believe that having people come together in groups for a peaceful > purpose does have some positive effect in the atmosphere, just as having > people come together for an unpleasant or violent purpose can have an > unp

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-29 Thread Sweta Kurtzkova
y 21, 2012 7:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-21 Thread merudanda
Re: Me-Too Levitation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: >SNIP > > Also, if I hopped like that woman at about 9:30, I'd certainly hurt my back seriously, given that fairly thin mattress... no pain no gain no claim no fame [:D]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-21 Thread merudanda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: >SNIP > > Also, if I hopped like that woman at about 9:30, I'd certainly hurt my back seriously, given that fairly thin mattress... no pain no gain no claim no fame [:D] no vain sane? > --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/21/2012 01:16 AM, cardemaister wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: >> The video also goes into some details re other "Samana" practices. >> http://youtu.be/K78t2-W2jag > > Just watche

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-21 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/21/2012 05:25 AM, Susan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: >>> >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: >>> The video also goes into some details re other "Sama

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-21 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The video also goes into some details re other "Samana" pract

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The video also goes into some details re other "Samana" practices. > > > > > http://youtu.be/K78t2-W2jag Just watched that video again. Some o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
>From the 1946 edition of Autobiography of a Yogi by Yogananda (Chapter 7): 'A yogi’s body loses its grossness after use of certain pranayamas. Then it will levitate or *hop about like a leaping frog*.' I have always thought Yogananda might have been kind of gullible. His classmates he intima

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > > > > The video also goes into some details re other "Samana" practices. > > > > http://youtu.be/K78t2-W2jag > > > > > > Whoa! Those mattresses seem quite thin... :0 > > > BTW, is He an advaitin!? If that's the case, hucco

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis" wrote: > > The "governor" training course I took was at MIU in the summer of '78. It was > a small course of only 12 guys. We lived in one of the "high rise" dorms and > our course leaders were Greg and Georgina Wilson. They used to come visi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis" wrote: > > Years later, when I was an undergrad at UW in Seattle, taking > a course in cultural anthropology, our class watched a video > of the evangelical snake handlers. It was very powerful for me > and watching all those folk in the video

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread marekreavis
Years later, when I was an undergrad at UW in Seattle, taking a course in cultural anthropology, our class watched a video of the evangelical snake handlers. It was very powerful for me and watching all those folk in the video under the influence of the "holy spirit" evoked a very powerful, symp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
That would have freaked them the F out! Very funny. I think I was there that Summer getting my sidhis on the student's course. The Summer before my senior year. When I was studying other perspectives that ultimately led me to come to the conclusion that I had not in fact stumbled onto the mo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread marekreavis
The "governor" training course I took was at MIU in the summer of '78. It was a small course of only 12 guys. We lived in one of the "high rise" dorms and our course leaders were Greg and Georgina Wilson. They used to come visit us in the afternoons in the foam room where we would meet each day.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me-Too Levitation

2012-01-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was totally hilarious! They did everything but claim that they were saving the world with their hopping like toads. They even mentioned the same sutra. The same bliss talk, really like a parallel universe. Excellent find. But remember, their hopping is not the real hopping. It just soun

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me & God

2010-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:22 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: >>> >>> Vaj, thanks for the heads-up. I just looked at the trailer and it >>> looks good. Nothing like a godman being cranky and i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me & God

2010-07-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > Vaj, thanks for the heads-up. I just looked at the trailer and it > > looks good. Nothing like a godman being cranky and irritated! > > I also thank Vaj for the recommendation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me & God

2010-07-20 Thread yifuxero
Great movie!...I loved it. Daniels does his best in various real-life "dysfunctional family" movies. His typical character portrays s Woody-Allen skepticism about all fluffy genuineness in life and his usage of the word "God" in this movie (as one might imagine) - is an endless stream of what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me & God

2010-07-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > Vaj, thanks for the heads-up. I just looked at the trailer and it > looks good. Nothing like a godman being cranky and irritated! I also thank Vaj for the recommendation. I downloaded a copy of this flick some time ago, just on the basis of

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and Danish stocks?

2008-08-15 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let's follow the "effect" of the WPA in Denmark, 15th - 24th Aug, > on the Danish stocks: > > http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^DKDOW > Taini: http://tinyurl.com/5rjcxn

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and HP?

2008-07-17 Thread R.G.
(snip) > > As Donald Trump would say (I guess): That's gonna be hyooge! > I "afraid" it's going to be the "final" proof that Maharishi > Effect really works! :D > Yep, someone was saying yesterday, something about people still being able to make moolah, in the so-called 'tought times' we're in..

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and HP?

2008-07-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/west_europe/pressure.shtml > > There "should" be a fairly "persistent" High Pressure "over" Denmark > from about 15th to 24th August: > > >> > From 12th to 15th June 140 Sidhas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Me and Art Walk

2008-05-16 Thread Angela Mailander
Thanks, Sat (chit and ananda are implicit, one must assume?). One consideration I have in mind when I work is to make it very difficult to reproduce each piece. And they're interactive. The collage at the show will have two detachable pieces of jewelry that will be at home on it in two different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Me and Art Walk

2008-05-16 Thread satvadude108
If there are ever photos of your work posted online, please let us know Angela. Though I am sure photos are not as sweet as seeing in living color, I'd enjoy the viewing. My last visit to Fairfield was more moons past than I sometimes care to remember. It is possible that I may detour a trip th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-19 Thread Angela Mailander
Thanks, Boo. --- boo_lives <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela > Mailander > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey, Boo, do you have a reference for that quote? > > It's priceless. Thanks. > > > It's from How the World Works Blog on salon.com. In > ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-19 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, Boo, do you have a reference for that quote? > It's priceless. Thanks. > It's from How the World Works Blog on salon.com. In case you're not a subscriber, here's the whole post: Does plastic make us fat

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Something I read this morning regarding the plastic bisphenol A that > relates to tmo research on tm: > > "A survey conducted in 2005 found that of "115 published studies > concerning effects of low doses of bisphenol A in experimental > animals, 94 percent of publicly funded studies found evidenc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-19 Thread Angela Mailander
Hey, Boo, do you have a reference for that quote? It's priceless. Thanks. --- boo_lives <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "dhamiltony2k5" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Ap

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-19 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:53 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > >> Oh they've gotten to it--and then they just raise it, when the > > >> number is reache

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-19 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:53 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> Oh they've gotten to it--and then they just raise it, when the > >> number is reached but miracles fail to happen. > > > > That's just human nature. > > It's di

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:53 PM, sparaig wrote: Oh they've gotten to it--and then they just raise it, when the number is reached but miracles fail to happen. That's just human nature. It's dishonest. And it basically makes complete fools out of the very people they're supposedly trying to rea

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-18 Thread satvadude108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:10 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: > > > > >> > > >> George, JOOC, do you *really* believe that a certain number of > > >> people, > > >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:10 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: > > >> > >> George, JOOC, do you *really* believe that a certain number of > >> people, > >> or any number, for that matter, sitting and thinking certain words > >> o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:10 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: George, JOOC, do you *really* believe that a certain number of people, or any number, for that matter, sitting and thinking certain words or thoughts, can somehow affect the behavior of other individuals, who happen to be in their physical proxi

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-18 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 2:38 AM, george_deforest wrote: > > > the ME has never really been achieved significantly yet, > > thats why it seems not to work; > > > > the population of the US right now is about 303,850,000

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-18 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 2:38 AM, george_deforest wrote: > > > the ME has never really been achieved significantly yet, > > thats why it seems not to work; > > > > the population of the US right now is about 303,850,000

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-15 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 6:50 PM, sparaig wrote: I asked you explicitly for a published study on a dozen or so subjects done in a laboratory setting and you responded with a reference to a TV show about Benson's finding on one Buddhist monk. I'm sorry, you must've mistaken me for your private

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 2008, at 4:04 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:56 PM, sparaig wrote: > >> > > Again, without appropriate controls, we'll n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 4:04 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:56 PM, sparaig wrote: Again, without appropriate controls, we'll never know. Other studies reporting deep meditation show alpha desynchronization and fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > [...] > >> Again, without appropriate controls, we'll never know. Other studies > >> reporting deep meditation show al

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:56 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> > >> Again, without appropriate controls, we'll never know. Other studies > >> reporting deep meditation show alpha desynchronization and fast beta > >> EEG. (Anand et al.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:14 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Again, without appropriate controls, we'll never know. Other studies reporting deep meditation show alpha desynchronization and fast beta EEG. (Anand et al., 1961; Banquet, 19

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:56 PM, sparaig wrote: Again, without appropriate controls, we'll never know. Other studies reporting deep meditation show alpha desynchronization and fast beta EEG. (Anand et al., 1961; Banquet, 1973; Das & Gastaut, 1955; Elson, 1979; Elson et al., 1977; Lo, Huang, & Chan

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Again, without appropriate controls, we'll never know. Other studies > reporting deep meditation show alpha desynchronization and fast beta > EEG. (Anand et al., 1961; Banquet, 1973; Das & Gastaut, 1955; Elson, > 197

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:04 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> > >> You need to wake up kiddo, you're leaving in a dream world. > >> > >> It's long been known and replicated many, many times that when TM > >> alpha EEG is looked at wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:04 PM, sparaig wrote: You need to wake up kiddo, you're leaving in a dream world. It's long been known and replicated many, many times that when TM alpha EEG is looked at with appropriate controls, it's really quite lackluster. So when a junk science study like this one

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 2008, at 11:09 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > [...] > >> We don't really know that and can't say that because the controls are > >> inadequate, esp. when looking a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 11:09 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] We don't really know that and can't say that because the controls are inadequate, esp. when looking at something as non-specific as alpha waves. It's been known that TM resea

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Very good, you can tell when you've been in the TMO too long when you > > read posts like that and think it's serious, if only for a second. > > No, this really is serious, (apart from 1996 which should have

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread guyfawkes91
> Very good, you can tell when you've been in the TMO too long when you > read posts like that and think it's serious, if only for a second. No, this really is serious, (apart from 1996 which should have been 2006), look at the data, right after the Invincible America Assembly starts and especia

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > We don't really know that and can't say that because the controls are > inadequate, esp. when looking at something as non-specific as alpha > waves. It's been known that TM researchers routinely use not only > inadeq

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 2008, at 10:35 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > [...] > >> But you would need to scientifically extricate that from any possible > >> placebo effect. And also, I bel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 10:31 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:58 PM, sparaig wrote: Sigh, you dont understand theterms you are using, Vaj. If there is a consistent correlation between an "uptick in alpha coherence" a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 10:35 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] But you would need to scientifically extricate that from any possible placebo effect. And also, I believe it is well understood that groups meditating can help others in that

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > But you would need to scientifically extricate that from any possible > placebo effect. And also, I believe it is well understood that groups > meditating can help others in that same group 'snap into line' and > med

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Sigh, you dont understand theterms you are using, Vaj. If there is > > a consistent > > correlation between an "uptick in alpha coherence" and reports of > > episodes of

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Holy crap, I assumed it was a good bit of satire on TBs always making > links to what isn't there, you know like the fact the Berlin wall > came down within a couple of years of a major TM course ending, > that

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: [...] > > > Please describe what you are thinking to > > > perform the flying sutra in a way that

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 2008, at 6:00 AM, hugheshugo wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" > > wrote: > >> > >> > >>> I'll believe it when I can tell the signal from the noise without > > any > >>> fancy-fo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 6:00 AM, hugheshugo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll believe it when I can tell the signal from the noise without any fancy-footwork on the time series analysis front. The signal shows up quite clearly in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:03 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: That's the bottom line. It might be true; it might not, but characterizing it any other way is avoidance of the truth on your part. Lawson avoiding the truth? No, say it isn't true!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:58 PM, sparaig wrote: Sigh, you dont understand theterms you are using, Vaj. If there is a consistent correlation between an "uptick in alpha coherence" and reports of episodes of transcendental consciousness, Coached reports of alleged "transcendental consciousness".

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 13, 2008, at 1:19 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:57 PM, new.morning wrote: This summer will be the 2nd anniversary of the Invincibility project in the Domes. Much noise was flaunted by JH about the gl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread Vaj
On Apr 13, 2008, at 11:43 AM, hugheshugo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: Actually, IIRC, the absolute numbers and the v

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'll believe it when I can tell the signal from the noise without any > > fancy-footwork on the time series analysis front. > > > > The signal shows up quite clearly in the historical charts for wheat, > cor

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > >> George, JOOC, do you *re

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > >> George, JOOC, do you *really* believe that a certain number of > > >> people, or any number, fo

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread guyfawkes91
> I'll believe it when I can tell the signal from the noise without any > fancy-footwork on the time series analysis front. > The signal shows up quite clearly in the historical charts for wheat, corn, soy, oil, copper, gold, iron and so on. All have seen massive rises since 1996, which is obvio

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread lurkernomore20002000
New Morn: Making up for lost time. Like one of those magic sponges. Soaking up the dialog! time.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > > > "There are lies, there are damn lies, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> George, JOOC, do you *really* believe that a certain number of > >> people, or any number, for that matter, sitting and thinking > >> certain words or thoughts,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote: George, JOOC, do you *really* believe that a certain number of people, or any number, for that matter, sitting and thinking certain words or thoughts, can somehow affect the behavior of other individuals, who happen to be in their physical proximi

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 2:38 AM, george_deforest wrote: > > > the ME has never really been achieved significantly yet, > > thats why it seems not to work; > > > > the population of the US right now is about 303,850,000 >

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Wake up, George. The whole ME thing is a fiction. Where did anyone > come up with the "square root" numbers except by pulling them out of > their ass. > Er, its a very simple and logical formula. It makes bunches

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > I that the ME was based on the common experience that group meds > > (ha) often create a good feeling in the "air" that is quite > > distinct from sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:57 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > This summer will be the 2nd anniversary of the Invincibility project > > in the Domes. Much noise was flaunted by JH about the glorious effects > > on the stock markets

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why people think that "research" regarding the ME is > sincere and real science is beyond me. John should be > ashamed of himself. Do you think that John gave up a promising career because he doesn't believe the research?

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I that the ME was based on the common experience that group meds > (ha) often create a good feeling in the "air" that is quite > distinct from say, an anger scene. It's quite distinct from *any* scene that I've ever e

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread Marek Reavis
I've been working on getting out of the house all morning to enjoy the redwoods with a friend, but in response to the theme of New's post I can share that many (most?) criminal defendant's I've dealt with are perfectly ordinary people who, through circumstances and personal choices, have to liv

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Also a shame Sonny Barger didn't teach the rest of his cut-throat > scumbag rabble a bit of peace and calm. Actually, many learned. They had group meds (including TM, ha). A teacher, George Ellis, others later,

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > I hope that title makes it into David lynch's new movie about the ME > > which is out this summer, but even if it doesn't I'm sure it'll > > ruf

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > > wrote: > > > > > > I think someone tried to tell me it was from the meissner effect > > > o

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope that title makes it into David lynch's new movie about the ME > which is out this summer, but even if it doesn't I'm sure it'll > ruffle a few scientific feathers. Or who knows? Maybe it'll change > the wor

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > I think someone tried to tell me it was from the meissner effect > > or some other super-conductivity principle, not sure though. > > Well it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > This summer will be the 2nd anniversary of the Invincibility project > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Apparently I'm the only respondent on this list > > > that owns any stocks, so I guess it's a moot point. > > > > New wrote: > > Glad you clarified that. I was beginning to think > > that the stocks ow

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Apparently I'm the only respondent on this list > > that owns any stocks, so I guess it's a moot point. > > New wrote: > Glad you clarified that. I was beginning to think > that the stocks owned you. > So, you don't own any stocks; glad you claified that.

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apparently I'm the only respondent > on this list that owns any stocks, so I guess it's a moot > point. Glad you clarified that. I was beginning to think that the stocks owned you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
new wrote: > If the ME (jh) posulation is valid -- that is immediate > surge in stocks when the "magic" number is hit, why > have teh markets significantly declined over the past > year, while the numbers in the domes are on average > quite a bit bigger than prior to that. > Because, the wise

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think someone tried to tell me it was from the meissner effect > or some other super-conductivity principle, not sure though. Well it was derived in Domash era -- but Hagelin explains the 1% part in his audio spea

[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and the Stock Market:: Hagelin Needs an Sound Economic Theory of ME

2008-04-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "There are lies, there are damn lies, and there are statistics" And there are even people who understand statistics. :)

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