--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> What difference does it make Sal, what Ravi, I or Dan thinks? It appears the
> so called obsession cuts both ways. For me personally Barry says some odd
> things and I comment on them. End of story.
>
> You and Barry continually a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote:
> > >
> > > How many nondualists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
> >
> > Four:
> > One to screw it
ldLife] Re: PTSD: 18 veteran suicides/day, 50% reduction in
> symptoms in 4 wks thru TM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Never "followed" anyone over here!
> I recieved an email invite from the indivual that started this ridiculous
> forum.
>
> You did? Must have
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of coldbluiceman
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:00 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: PTSD: 18 veteran suicides/day, 50% reduction in
symptoms in 4 wks thru TM
Never
Never "followed" anyone over here!
I recieved an email invite from the indivual that started this ridiculous forum.
Geez what a complete waste of human effort..
And things have not changed..
Ram Tripathi-(aka Swami Shantinanda the Ashram cook) conspired with Brahmachari
Mahesh Yogi-(the Ashram cl
Dear Dan,
Very few come to the defense of the Gurus because its not so popular.
Even the few who do visit Gurus and believe in "woowoo" are all very
superficial and diplomatic because they are all stuck in the head, very
few heart/feeling types around here. If we hear about an unethical
doctor or
Ravi,
Thank you for your note. It was/is my intent to bring this to our attention.
Some have agreed (to, what I consider obvious; but I remind myself that we each
have a lot on our mind, so the obvious to one, is not the topmost thought of
another). But the thought is out there, and will get co
> It was Vaj who invited me over.
>
Oh, so you want to blame it on Vaj.
> And some of us were already posting
> on TMNews and TMContra.
>
So, you're the guy that posted all that
trash talk about MMY and SBS on Yahoo!
Does that make you feel better, to trash
your old guru and make fun of other
> > It was Vaj who invited me over.
> >
authfriend:
> Many of us from alt.m.t came to FFL at *Barry's*
> invitation--at his *urging*, actually.
>
> He recommended FFL because, he said, it was so much more
> *civil* than alt.m.t. Which is highly amusing considering
> the nature of his participat
Alex:
> I was on FFL before WillyTex.
>
Nope, I was here on FFL from day one, lurking,
waiting for the others to find me. It didn't
take very long before Perino came over to FFL
and started trash-talking about me and the MMY.
That's right after the 'dorkflex' made up that
other forum, Yahoo! T
> > > It was Vaj who invited me over. And some of us were already
> > > posting on TMNews and TMContra. Sorry to make you feel less
> > > important. :-D
> > >
> > I was on FFL before WillyTex. He joined on Dec 21, 2001, and
> > I had already made my first post on Nov 8, 2001.
> >
Joe:
> so you
I think I have to agree with you Dan, it's very cheap to criticize
groups, entities and classes of people - it doesn't require much
intelligence. Some hate blacks, some Jews, some Indians, Tom Pall hates
all of the above..:-).
These people don't realize that these groups, entities and classes of
pe
Thanks again Sal, I'm BTW INFP for all the psychologists who do
anonymous therapy here..:-). I do have a problem with some of the
postings and thats the nature of the forums. But it's not my intention
to stop anyone from posting much to some people's imagination, I did
remark when Barry left the fo
Hmmm, so you, Bharritu and Vaj all came over w/o WillyTex's help?
It almost seems like Willy is a terminally confused individual...or maybe he
just likes to tell fibs. Who knows? Who cares
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> On 01/22/2011 06:13 AM, WillyTex wrote:
> >
> >
> > Barry, Judy, Lawson, Eric, Alex, Vaj, Knapp, Shemp,
> > Bhairitu, Billy, dorkflex, and Perino all followed me
> > over here to FFL. It's all my fault, so just shoot
> > me!
> > = __
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> On 01/22/2011 06:13 AM, WillyTex wrote:
> > Barry, Judy, Lawson, Eric, Alex, Vaj, Knapp, Shemp,
> > Bhairitu, Billy, dorkflex, and Perino all followed me
> > over here to FFL. It's all my fault, so just shoot
> > me!
> > = __o
> >
On 01/22/2011 06:13 AM, WillyTex wrote:
>
Unfortunately, the obsessing went on while
you were gone as well.
>>> In fact, other than during the few days of
>>> "postmortem" right after Barry left, in which
>>> many people participated, I did not bring up
>>> Barry's name *once*--entirely c
Sal,
Thaks for your note of appreciation. To clarify, I am not objecting to "what
people should and shouldn't be posting", rather my objection is to people
staying in the shadows to avoid accountability, while defaming groups. That's
ugly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wr
On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
> >
> > Which is why I still read Ravioli's posts.
> > As well as now and then, there's actually
> > something that makes sense.
> >
>
> Thanks for your kindness Sal..:-)
Don't mentio
Ravi Yogi:
> Barry, this is just hilarious. You know "all
> caps" is for screaming...
>
There is nothing quite like a spiritual teacher
screaming "YOU ARE NOT WORTH MY TIME"! Maybe you
pushed a few of Turq's buttons a little too hard.
Maybe we should 'tone down the rhetoric' with
Turq, since a
> > > Unfortunately, the obsessing went on while
> > > you were gone as well.
> >
> > In fact, other than during the few days of
> > "postmortem" right after Barry left, in which
> > many people participated, I did not bring up
> > Barry's name *once*--entirely contrary to his
> > gloating predi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > > The thing I wonder is how long the four I've
> > > written off can keep obsessing on me while
> > > claiming
When Barry left I declared openly that I miss him and I obsessed over
him till he came back and it still continues every single day. I love
that man, he's my hero, the real Skeptic - one of a kind, a true legend.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:>> > On
Jan 21, 2011, at 9:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:> > > Thanks for noticing.
Just to clarify the situation,> > I not only have not read or replied to
anything of > > Ravi's since my return, I only responded to a couple> >
of his posts back in his *
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
wrote:
>
>
> Which is why I still read Ravioli's posts.
> As well as now and then, there's actually
> something that makes sense.
>
Thanks for your kindness Sal..:-)
> > The thing I wonder is how long the four I've
> > written off can keep obsess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote:
>
>
>
> > > What difference does it make what he or anyone
> > > else thinks?
> > >
> TurquoiseB:
> > CATCH A FUCKING CLUE
> > YOU ARE NOT WORTH MY TIME
> > AND NEVER WILL BE
> > NO MATTER HOW MANY
> > TANTRUMS YOU THROW
> >
> > Are we clear
LOL..Barry, this is just hilarious. You know "all caps" is for
screaming. I'm always obsessed with your posts - I have stated that
clearly and loudly. And I have always declared myself to be crazy loud
and clear, ever since May. It is you who scream, yell and protest that
you are not obsessed, it
Sally,
I have always openly and loudly acknowledged that I'm obsessed by Barry,
I'm on this list just out of love for him, can you suggest something for
my disorder?
Love - Ravi Yogi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
wrote:
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:59 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> >
Agreed. I didn't mention him either, and was very glad for the all too brief
respite from watching his self-inflicted "painfully wounded" ego blindly
thrashing about. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
> One thing for sure...the more they slam me and
> try to get me to focus on them, the less I will.
> And the thing is I've said this before, and they
> just don't get it. I'll say it one last time, in
> the hope that they're not as br
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > The thing I wonder is how long the four I've
> > written off can keep obsessing on me while
> > claiming they're not doing it. With Judy that's
> > not really a question; she'll tak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> I do have to say I block most of these people too, although Ravi and Rory's
> raving are occasional entertainment.
>
Thanks, Vaj; I enjoy yours quite a bit as well!
On Jan 21, 2011, at 9:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> Thanks for noticing. Just to clarify the situation,
> I not only have not read or replied to anything of
> Ravi's since my return, I only responded to a couple
> of his posts back in his *first* appearance here, as
> a crazy person. I wrote him of
> > I haven't stopped reading Nabby's posts, because
> > insanity can be entertaining sometimes...
> >
Sal:
> Which is why I still read Ravioli's posts.
> As well as now and then, there's actually
> something that makes sense.
>
We can read everything you have to say in quick
review mode; there'
On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>> Ravioli, why are you so interested in Barry,
>> in his "spirituality"?
>> You, Dan and Jim seem to be positively obsessed,
>> even more so than Judy~and that's going some.
>> What difference does it make what he or anyone
>> else thinks?
>
> Thank
LOL - It just cracks me up every time Barry gets up on his little tippy toes
and shrieks in his most shrill voice, "NAH NAH NAH I AM NOT LISTENING TO
YOU", while secretly devouring every word...
That's 50 for me - See you all later. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB"
> > What difference does it make what he or anyone
> > else thinks?
> >
TurquoiseB:
> CATCH A FUCKING CLUE
> YOU ARE NOT WORTH MY TIME
> AND NEVER WILL BE
> NO MATTER HOW MANY
> TANTRUMS YOU THROW
>
> Are we clear now?
>
Thanks for 'toning down' the rhetoric, Uncle Tantrum!
> Thanks for noti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:59 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> > You masquerade here as someone who is genuinely interested in
> > spirituality
>
> Ravioli, why are you so interested in Barry,
> in his "spirituality"?
> You, Dan and Jim seem to b
What difference does it make Sal, what Ravi, I or Dan thinks? It appears the so
called obsession cuts both ways. For me personally Barry says some odd things
and I comment on them. End of story.
You and Barry continually attempt to control who says what to who on here,
forgetting obviously tha
On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:59 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> You masquerade here as someone who is genuinely interested in spirituality
Ravioli, why are you so interested in Barry,
in his "spirituality"?
You, Dan and Jim seem to be positively obsessed,
even more so than Judy~and that's going some.
What differ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
[quoting Yifuxero:]
> "Enlightenment in Buddhism seems to be very much
> aligned to the notion of Dharma (right behavior); as in
> - the latter is an outcome of the former and relative
> progress on the Path. Or at least, the two go ha
whynotnow7:
> The way I see it is that we can always do
> whatever we want to do...
>
Well, I don't know how I could survive
if I didn't have access to a source of
fresh organic food-stuffs. That's what I want
to do. Eat right to stay healthy!
I must be one of the luckiest or smartest guys
on the
I remembered a story Osho had said about actions without transforming
the being.
There was a man and an old woman arguing at an intersection, soon a
crowd gathered and one of them asked what the problem was. The old woman
replied that she didn't want to cross the street because she had to go
the ot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB"
wrote:
>
>
> He's talking about "spiritual narcissism," but for
> me that is synonymous with "faux spirituality."
> That is, unless the claimed spiritual person seems
> to show more interest in the welfare of other human
> beings than he does in
Hell is the natural state to reside in, we are born pre-programmed,
pre-packaged to reside in it, completely effortless..:-), once your
being is transformed the state of heaven seems to be as natural.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"
wrote:
>
> Yeah, I don't think anyone has a m
Well I have heard of avadhutaas (mystic mad men) in India who curse or
throw stones if someone approaches them because they want to be left
alone. Though the actions here are clearly undesirable we cannot
question their state of being. But it's fair to say one who is
enlightened cannot perform any
Right on, IMO obsessing over actions is very tricky convoluted way
indeed. I think ones energy is better spent on transforming the being.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"
wrote:
>
> "Enlightenment in Buddhism seems to be very much aligned to the notion
of Dharma (right behavior)
Or it's not about action but being.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"
wrote:
>
> The way I see it is that we can always do whatever we want to do. As
wisdom grows though, some actions or thoughts become less desirable. Its
not about action anyway, rather about the grip of desire.
Responses interleaved below, after * * * s...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote:
>
> right, somebody with NO separate Ego: (a person in Unity, or an Enlightened
> person)
> ...but that only erases the separate Ego. What evidence is there is the
> non-existence of a non-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:14 AM, tartbrain wrote:
> >>> I'm curious, what constitutes genuine spirituality in your perspective?
> >>
> >> Being kind to people, helping others in need
> >> whenever possible, and generally trying to
> >>
"Bashing is just a convenient excuse to reside in Hell." Nice line... True That!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> Yeah, I don't think anyone has a monopoly on Hell - I was referring
> specifically to the "bashing", not any particular subject associated with
> that.
ok, ...chicken and egg question wrt Buddhism; but in any event, there's
definitely a strong connection, and also with Compassion.
(but you're saying not. As people from India say,..."well and good").
Your orientation is fine with me. I'm just gathering various perspectives,
noting the various di
"Enlightenment in Buddhism seems to be very much aligned to the notion of
Dharma (right behavior); as in - the latter is an outcome of the former and
relative progress on the Path. Or at least, the two go hand in hand somehow."
Similar to the idea in Christianity that good works lead to heaven.
thx, excellent answer, and appreciated!
Your first sentence re: not finding merit in the state of Unity; gets "one" out
of a possible trap in relation to "right action" but leaves open some
unanswered questions when comparing such concepts to those of the Buddha (or
Buddhas).
Namely,
(a) Enlight
I don't find any merit whatsoever in a state of Unity, other than for the
person who has accomplished the slow suffocation of duality in their life. What
it means for those looking from the outside is pretty much irrelevant from the
perspective of the one on the journey. In other words, there is
right, of course!...the two subjects are distinct. But an important question
remains as to the possibility of committing A-Dharmic acts in the (non-separate
Ego) state. Otherwise, the merit of such a state seems to be lessened without
"right action"; doesn't it?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro
right, somebody with NO separate Ego: (a person in Unity, or an Enlightened
person)
...but that only erases the separate Ego. What evidence is there is the
non-existence of a non-separate Ego?
...
We don't define A-dharmic in a strict air-tight sense, as in say the Motor
Vehicle Code of the
Hold on there pardner- let's keep this in context, please. I was writing about
action revealing nothing about someone's state of consciousness. As someone
said recently, there is no such thing as enlightened action. There is such a
thing as enlightened thought and changing values as a result. I
so, actions are irrelevant...interesting. How about having sex with underage
persons? (in the set of persons having no Separate Ego):
http://www.fantasygallery.net/wetter/art_7_Spellbound.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> The way I see it is that we can always d
The way I see it is that we can always do whatever we want to do. As wisdom
grows though, some actions or thoughts become less desirable. Its not about
action anyway, rather about the grip of desire.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote:
>
> Q: How about somebody with a "non-
Fun questions! I am not entirely sure we can posit a "somebody" with a
"non-separate Ego" as from here anyhow it (or THAT) appears (or We appear) to
be more like a field-of-Being with lots and lots of Ego-points rising and
falling in it (or THAT or Us), as waves or impulses of it (or THAT or Us
Yeah, I don't think anyone has a monopoly on Hell - I was referring
specifically to the "bashing", not any particular subject associated with that.
As mentioned, bashing is just a convenient excuse to reside in Hell. Loss of
presence can happen to anyone. Sure it feels good to be pissed off, or
Q: How about somebody with a "non-separate Ego"? (and zero separate Ego). Are
they capable of performing A-Dharmic acts, or not?
thx...
The Minion:
http://www.fantasygallery.net/cleavenger/art_0_the-minion.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> *Very* precisely - Havi
On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Vaj wrote:
On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:32 PM, shukra69 wrote:
>> for starters your contempt for Veterans (and those helping them).
>
> I don't believe the underlying intention is to "help" these veterans. They're
> convenient cash cows for their latest scam.
Bingo.
Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> Ah. I hadn't thought about Satan equated with the separate ego. Makes sense
> though - the whole devil whispering in Jesus' ear and all that.
>
> So true that the minute speculation begins, being present goes away. Here on
> FFL it
Ah. I hadn't thought about Satan equated with the separate ego. Makes sense
though - the whole devil whispering in Jesus' ear and all that.
So true that the minute speculation begins, being present goes away. Here on
FFL it appears that bashing the TMO is a favorite distraction, aka freeway to
On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:32 PM, shukra69 wrote:
> for starters your contempt for Veterans (and those helping them).
I don't believe the underlying intention is to "help" these veterans. They're
convenient cash cows for their latest scam.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> *Very* precisely - Having been there and back many times, I am an authority
> on all things Hellish. :-)
>
Yes, BTDT. "Hell" is indeed the result of the rejection of the divine Presence
here and now, which makes our determinedly se
lol- as they say, "Comes with the territory". :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> *Very* precisely - Having been there and back many times, I am an authority
> on all things Hellish. :-)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
*Very* precisely - Having been there and back many times, I am an authority on
all things Hellish. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
> >
> > Well said.
> >
> > "Our separate Ego loves to reject the s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> Well said.
>
> "Our separate Ego loves to reject the simple, ever-loving present
> Presence...The pay-off is, it gets to perpetuate its
> illusion of superiority; the downside is, it has to live isolated in an
> unsafe, unloving w
Well said.
"Our separate Ego loves to reject the simple, ever-loving present
Presence...The pay-off is, it gets to perpetuate its
illusion of superiority; the downside is, it has to live isolated in an unsafe,
unloving world of inferiority :-)" aka Hell. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
> > As to your story about Dan's suicide, we can lead a horse to water, but we
> > can't make him drink. I hadn't seen Dan for some months before he decided
> > to end his life. We are an informal gathering of friends; we certainly
> >
for starters your contempt for Veterans (and those helping them).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:44 PM, shukra69 wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >>
> >> On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Dick Mays wrote:
>
> > How many nondualists does it take to screw in
> > a light bulb?
> >
TurquoiseB:
> Four:
>
> One to screw it in.
> One to not screw it in.
> One to both screw it in and not screw it in.
> One to neither screw it in nor not screw it in.
>
Who fukin' cares?
http://tinyurl.com/49oayjt
authfriend:
> I'd be really curious to know how Peter got hold of
> this study to determine that there was no control
> group and that it's "pure shit research." It hasn't
> been published yet, and I can't find any specifics,
> not even an abstract, on the Web.
>
Maybe Doctor Pete would like to po
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote:
> >
> > How many nondualists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
>
> Four:
> One to screw it in.
> One to not screw it in.
> One to both screw it in and not screw it in.
> O
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote:
>
> How many nondualists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Four:
One to screw it in.
One to not screw it in.
One to both screw it in and not screw it in.
One to neither screw it in nor not screw it in.
How many nondualists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
(as somebody pointed out, the levitator Daniel D. Home could do it...in a
flash):
http://wpcontent.answcdn.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Daniel-Dunglas-Home-levitation.jpg/220px-Daniel-Dunglas-Home-levitation.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> I'd be really curious to know how Peter got hold of
> this study to determine that there was no control
> group and that it's "pure shit research." It hasn't
> been published yet, and I can't find any specifics,
> not even an abstract
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:08 PM, wayback71 wrote:
> >
> > >>> U
> > h, Dick, if TM were as great as you'd have us believe,
> > wouldn't it have led these guys t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > This reminds me of two guys in an enlightenment support group who was there
> > doing the "supporting" when one of their adamantly enlightened friends
> > decided to end
Rory wrote:> > * * * This reminds me of how much our separate Ego *loves* to
deal in multitudes of "coulds" and "imagines," spinning out imaginary scenarios
of terror instead of simply enjoying the present presence.
tartbrain wrote:
> Along with "should have" (past) and third person "should h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> This reminds me of two guys in an enlightenment support group who was there
> doing the "supporting" when one of their adamantly enlightened friends
> decided to end his life.
>
> What would you call them, anti-bodhisattvas or simply fools
On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:14 AM, tartbrain wrote:
>>> I'm curious, what constitutes genuine spirituality in your perspective?
>>
>> Being kind to people, helping others in need
>> whenever possible, and generally trying to
>> make things better in whatever way one
>> can, however "insignificant" it
I'd be really curious to know how Peter got hold of
this study to determine that there was no control
group and that it's "pure shit research." It hasn't
been published yet, and I can't find any specifics,
not even an abstract, on the Web.
(Peter won't respond to this because he doesn't read
my po
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >>
> >> The same people, in general, obsessed with
> >> faux spirituality [...] Again, it's that faux-spirituality
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > Unless of course TM causes unstressing. ;-)
> >
> > My concern, and this would not be unique to only TM but any meditation that
> > includes closing the eyes and thereby
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays wrote:
> > >
> > > Reduction of PTSD Symptoms in Veterans with Transcendental
> > > Meditation
> > > http://bit.ly/fV2OxB
>
> > I'm curious, what constitutes genuine
> > spirituality in your perspective?
> >
TurquoiseB:
> It's about something more measurable, what
> they do for others as a result of having
> had those subjective experiences...
>
So, how do you measure up?
What spiritual experiences have you had a
> > > The measure of spirituality is how
> > > much you do for others. Period...
> > >
Sal:
> Being kind to people, helping others in
> need whenever possible, and generally
> trying to make things better in whatever
> way one can, however "insignificant" it
> may seem at the time. Random ac
On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:44 PM, tartbrain wrote:
> Advaita Army:
>
> Lt: Take that hill!
>
> Pvt RamanaRoy: I am the hill!
>
> Lt: Don't f with me boy, get your ass up on that hill
>
> Pvt RamanaRoy: Your anger is just my shadow self seeking liberation.
>
> and so forth ... (not a very good sk
On Jan 19, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> Thanks for a clear and intelligent response.
> Your last point makes it clear why "studies"
> like the one supposedly performed are often
> so bogus.
Should have read, "so often bogus."
Sal
On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:38 AM, shanti2218411 wrote:
> I am a psychologist that has worked with combat vets with PTSD for
> 20+ yrs.The most effective form of tx for these vets is prolonged exposure or
> some variation of that tx.TM might help as an ancillary tx but obviously
> only if it is pract
On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>>
>> The same people, in general, obsessed with
>> faux spirituality [...] Again, it's that faux-spirituality
>
> I'm curious, what constitutes genuine spirituality in your perspective
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> > >
> > > The same people, in general, obsessed with
> > > faux spirituality [...] Again, it's that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays wrote:
> >
> > Reduction of PTSD Symptoms in Veterans with Transcendental
> > Meditation
> > http://bit.ly/fV2OxB
>
> Well yes, in my experience meditation definitely slows down
> the 'fight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
> > The same people, in general, obsessed with
> > faux spirituality [...] Again, it's that faux-spirituality
>
> I'm curious, what constitutes genuine spirituality in
On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:17 AM, RoryGoff wrote:
>
> * * * This reminds me of how much our separate Ego *loves* to deal in
> multitudes of "coulds" and "imagines," spinning out imaginary scenarios of
> terror instead of simply enjoying the present presence.
>
> I am reminded of Tom Traynor's favo
f proof that TM reduces symptoms of PTSD. It doesn't
> indicate this at all.
>
> --- On Tue, 1/18/11, shukra69 wrote:
>
> > From: shukra69
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: PTSD: 18 veteran suicides/day, 50% reduction
> > in symptoms in 4 wks thru TM
> &
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