--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > Could you try translating that to English, please?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > L.
>
> Just noticed that Vyaasa's comment(ary?) of that suutra is quite a lot
> simpl
changes of questionable
utility
Cheers
Bill
From: RoryGoff
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote:
>
> Hello to everyone o
atomy. Btw, what
form of meditation were you practicing? And also, I love the comment by your
Guru. That was a very perceptive comment!!
Cheers
Bill
From: Ravi Yogi
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstil
13, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
Yo, William, don't take them too seriously. According to MMY, if you can't
perform any and all of the sidhis (e.g. Yogic Flying) then you're not truly in
Unity Consciousness.
Now, for those
ding-- even if I'm not sure I fully grasp in its entirety what happened to
you during these periods of intense
illumination (perhaps that is a better wording than Enlightenment).
Cheers
Bill
From: RoryGoff
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:18 AM
Subjec
On 07/13/2011 11:12 AM, William Parkinson wrote:
> Thank you so much for sharing with me what happened to you Ravi. I did not
> know that you are using something other than TM. The only reason why I
> practice TM is because having tried other meditations, TM, for better or
> worse, seems to allo
On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
> [...]
>> You probably know that most brain wave research would say that deep
>> sleep would be the delta state which is possible to produce through
>> meditation too. Back in the 1970s I was part of
On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
> > [...]
> >> You probably know that most brain wave research would say that deep
> >> sleep would be the delta state which is possible to produce t
;lite,' as I am. He seems none the worse for wear, so to speak.
Cheers
Bill
From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
With regards to William Park
j
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:16 PM, William Parkinson wrote:
> Vaj, as I understand it, the TM people don't make hay from the mere presence
> of alpha waves, but rather from alpha coherence, which is wide spread over
> the various lobes. Is that not correct? Am I missing something here? Someone
> cor
ittle bit about why you feel it was salutary for
you. In any event, I thank you deeply Ravi for sharing your experiences with
me. I hope to hear more from you soon!
Cheers
Bill
From: Ravi Yogi
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:
ay, July 13, 2011 4:22:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
Thank you so much Ravi for allowing me a peek into your experiences. When I say
'questionable utility' what I mean is this. In the Eastern tradition, as I
understand it, the goal of Enlightenmen
ubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
Dr. Parkinson,
Welcome to FFL. I've been enjoying your exchanges with our fellow posters
immensely. Lately, I've been trying to communicate in moving images but I'm
afraid I'll never match the lyrical magic
much!!
Cheers
Bill
From: Bhairitu
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
On 07/13/2011 11:12 AM, William Parkinson wrote:
> Thank you so much for sharing with me what happened to you
g my
> sleeping hours. Anyway thank you so much!!
> Cheers
> Bill
>
>
> From: Bhairitu
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
>
>
>
> On 07/13/2011 11:1
al insult on FFL is being ignored.
PPS: If you are enjoying yourself, watch the 50 post rule for your weekly posts.
From: William Parkinson
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:41:03 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill th
On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:20 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
[...]
> The much-touted witnessing of advanced TMers is seen in normal
humans all the time, but esp. in the elderly and people in pain.
Big whoop.
>
Derealization during pain isn't the same a
On Jul 13, 2011, at 9:20 PM, William Parkinson wrote:
Thank you so much for the information Bhairitu . I tried to trace
back my own mantra within the Advaita-shakti tradition and found
that it was recorded in Shankara's 'Saundaryalahari.' Perhaps I am
just slow witted, but I don't believe
l to this newbie. Now it is time to discuss other topics!!!
Cheers
Bill
From: turquoiseb
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
What Bob said, Bill. Welcome, but watch your back.
One thing I should su
Richard I love what you just wrote. This is all new to me. I am now rushing to
Goggle!! I will say something soon. Thx!!
Cheers
Bill
From: richardjwilliamstexas
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there
On 07/13/2011 09:14 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>> On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>>> [...]
You probably know that most brain wave research would say that deep
sleep would
On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson
> wrote:
> [...]
> > Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There is much I
> > still have to learn about TM, but also about the members here. Still it
> > has been heurist
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote:
[...]
> Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There is much I still
> have to learn about TM, but also about the members here. Still
L., forgive me, but I went though my old posts, which had several from you and
none had any links for further research. Did I miss one of them?
Cheers
Bill
From: sparaig
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are
On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:46 PM, sparaig wrote:
However, what I meant by "there's alpha and then there's alpha" is
a reference to the specific pattern(s) that show up during TM,
especially during the pure consciousness state.
Alleged pure consciousness state. I don't believe anyone accepts th
On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:48 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson
wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There
our other post to me?
Cheers
Bill
From: sparaig
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote:
>
> L., forgive me, but I went thou
against using this type of yoga in some
cases.
Cheers
Bill
From: Ravi Yogi
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote:
>
>
On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:53 PM, sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:46 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > However, what I meant by "there's alpha and then there's alpha" is
> > > a reference to the specific pattern(s) that show up during
On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
> Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do)
> that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are
> not?
Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of
waking-drea
I do remember it, but not the full gist now. You will have to forgive me. Can
you 'enlighten' me about it (pun intended).
Cheers
Bill
From: whynotnow7
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:51 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstil
On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:30 AM, cardemaister wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still
> > > do) that these episodes are significant. I'm
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:27 PM, sparaig wrote:
> These days, scientists call it the "default mode of the brain."
Which scientists are these? Lemme guess, from MUM?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/25/05 3:16 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Sometimes after going to bed, or after waking during the night, I
> > will still my mind in order to allow my autonomic nervous system
to
> > take
on 10/26/05 1:17 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do you mean a "buzz" sound literally? Because I have very often had
> the experience of the sound of bees while meditating (and, yes,
> often while sleeping). Muktananda says that the experience of the
> sound of bees is an experienc
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