[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/9/05 5:53 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Another one: > >> > >> Many mistakes in the entry below. no time now but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-09 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/9/05 5:53 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Another one: >> >> Many mistakes in the entry below. no time now but for starters, I > DID >> interview Vishnudevananda in depth and had a research assistant

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-09 Thread sparaig
What claim did I make about Swami Vasudevananda? I only repeated what Anoop Chandola said Swami Brahmandanda told him in a response to a question about MMY. What does my source disagree about? Anoop Chandola said it was a good summary of the politics surrounding the succession to Gurudev's pos

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-09 Thread sparaig
2005 at 11:40 AM > wrote: > > > >More grist for the mill: > > > >-- Forwarded Message > >From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: > >Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:33:04 -0000 > >To: > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyot

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-09 Thread Rick Archer
Dana's response: Rick, only time for a moment of response to this guy's nonsense below. He isn't offering any compelling argument in support of Vasudevananda's claim other than "he said, she said." A comment from Shantananda, whether it was made or not, is only one comment in a sea of comments

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-09 Thread Rick Archer
the mill: > >-- Forwarded Message >From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: >Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:33:04 - >To: >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the >20th Century > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/2/05 12:44 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> "Ahh, what's so special about cheesemakers?" >>> >>> "Well, obviously this is not meant to be taken literally. >>> It refers to any manufactur

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-02 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >"Ahh, what's so special about cheesemakers?" > > > > "Well, obviously this is not meant to be taken literally. > > It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products." > > Right. Such as Jesus Cheeses, Inc. I think it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/2/05 2:35 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I haven't really been following all these pissing contest >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I haven't really been following all these pissing contest > > posts, and I've never been on AMT. I just want to say that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I haven't really been following all these pissing contest posts, and I've > never been on AMT. I just want to say that aside from posts at which you > snipe at one another, everything I've read by Vaj, Unc, and Jud

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:16 PM, sparaig wrote: > > You seem to not be aware of a number of things 1) the Shankaracharya > is > not necessarily the one who chooses his successor > >>> > >>> > >>> So the successor

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/1/05 2:36 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:02 PM, sparaig wrote: > >> Who is a playground bully on AMT and who is a playground bully here? > > I think you're smart enough to figure that out yourself in regards to > AMT as you spend a lot of time there. > > As f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:02 PM, sparaig wrote: > Who is a playground bully on AMT and who is a playground bully here? I think you're smart enough to figure that out yourself in regards to AMT as you spend a lot of time there. As far as here goes, it's a different place so I don't know that the co

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I may have been *incorrect* to assume Vaj was > referring to the narrow issue of Chandola's > account of his conversation with Shantanand, > but y

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > However your claim that the Shankaracharaya lin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread authfriend
response to it.) > From: Peter Sutphen > Date: Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:57 pm > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage > in the 20th Century drpetersutphen > Offline Offline > Send Email Send Email > Boy, has this turned into a massive pissing contest

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Your response provides some interesting context f

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread anonymousff
"ranting" was indeed a bit strong (though I think acceptable in the loose conversationa use of the word). I apologize for the characterization and its possible more formal interpretation.] --- Original post upon which Judy commented. From: Peter Sutphe

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:09 PM, anonymousff wrote: > > > I like your posts, and they often provide insight. However, on this > > point, your implied casting of Vaj as incorrect -- not telling the > > truth -- makes me ponde

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But even if he had said It has "'raged on' 'in AMT' for a while, I > dont see that that connates either currently or continuously. "Has raged on AMT for a while" does indeed suggest that it's ongoing there. But in an

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:09 PM, anonymousff wrote: > > > I like your posts, and they often provide insight. However, on this > > point, your implied casting of Vaj as incorrect -- not telling the > > truth -- makes me ponder

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:16 PM, sparaig wrote: You seem to not be aware of a number of things 1) the Shankaracharya is not necessarily the one who chooses his successor >>> >>> >>> So the successor is generally chosen over the wishes of the >>> Shankaracharya? >> >> That's not what I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:09 PM, anonymousff wrote: > I like your posts, and they often provide insight. However, on this > point, your implied casting of Vaj as incorrect -- not telling the > truth -- makes me ponder you may certainly have some quite different > standard for truth than most. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks Unc. I appreciate the clarification... > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECT

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <> > They feel that gratitude *simultaneously* > to feeling doubts about him or confusion about some > of the silly-ass things he's don

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:46 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> On Jul 1, 2005, at 10:55 AM, sparaig wrote: > >> > >>> MY position comes from Anoop Chandola's

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > > > > > Boy, has this turned into a massive pissing contest! > > > > Well it has raged

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please give reference to an account that says that Swami Shanta

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> They feel that gratitude *simultaneously* to feeling doubts about him or confusion about some of the silly-ass things he's done and continues to do. <> Unc Exactly! Just want to highlight this. It's these two co

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:46 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 1, 2005, at 10:55 AM, sparaig wrote: MY position comes from Anoop Chandola's conversation with his meditation teacher, Swami Shantananda Saraswati, closest disciple of Swami B

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Crux of this issue is found at the very end. If you can't stand > my ranting, at least read > > the last paragraph or two at the end o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please give reference to an account that says that Swami Shantananda was NOT the closest > disciple of Gurudev... And if you would, please give re

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 10:55 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > MY position comes from Anoop Chandola's conversation with his > > meditation teacher, > > Swami Shantananda Saraswati, closest disciple of Swami Brahamanda > > Saraswati, A

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Unc. I appreciate the clarification... > > > > I'm not on your shit list now, by any chance, am I? > > > > Snicker... > > Never have

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Crux of this issue is found at the very end. If you can't stand my ranting, at least read > the last paragraph or two at the end of my response. FWIW, I think you may have written "Brahmananda" instead of "Shantana

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2005, at 10:55 AM, sparaig wrote: > MY position comes from Anoop Chandola's conversation with his > meditation teacher, > Swami Shantananda Saraswati, closest disciple of Swami Brahamanda > Saraswati, AKA > "Gurudev" on this forum. No account denies that Swami Shantananda > Saraswati

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Unc. I appreciate the clarification... > > I'm not on your shit list now, by any chance, am I? > > Snicker... Never have been, man. Really. I've just been trying to point out that you've essentially trotted out

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
Thanks Unc. I appreciate the clarification... I'm not on your shit list now, by any chance, am I? Snicker... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
The Crux of this issue is found at the very end. If you can't stand my ranting, at least read the last paragraph or two at the end of my response. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > > > Boy, has this tur

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > > > Boy, has this turned into a massive pissing contest! > > Well it has raged on AMT for a while as well. No, it hasn't. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PRO

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Doubtful, since neither I nor Anoop Chandola ever disagreed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jun 30, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > Boy, has this turned into a massive pissing contest! Well it has raged on AMT for a while as well. > I > think everybody that cares needs to come to their own > conclusion in this matter and recognize that any > legitimate authority in one si

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doubtful, since neither I nor Anoop Chandola ever disagreed with > > him on anything. You obviously didn't read the entire thing I wrote > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doubtful, since neither I nor Anoop Chandola ever disagreed with > him on anything. You obviously didn't read the entire thing I wrote > below. Uh, and that doesn't *tell* you anything? :-) To subscribe, send a m

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boy, has this turned into a massive pissing contest! I > think everybody that cares needs to come to their own > conclusion in this matter and recognize that any > legitimate authority in one side's eyes will not be >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boy, has this turned into a massive pissing contest! I > think everybody that cares needs to come to their own > conclusion in this matter and recognize that any > legitimate authority in one side's eyes will not be >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread Peter Sutphen
Boy, has this turned into a massive pissing contest! I think everybody that cares needs to come to their own conclusion in this matter and recognize that any legitimate authority in one side's eyes will not be legitimate in the other side's eye. A matter of emotionally invested position. And by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/30/05 4:01 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sorry I can't reply to an original post in this thread, but I've > > delete

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/30/05 4:01 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sorry I can't reply to an original post in this thread, but I've > deleted it, > > BTW, why did you delete the original thread? Is this normal to do after > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry I can't reply to an original post in this thread, but I've deleted it, BTW, why did you delete the original thread? Is this normal to do after a certain point? Seems to me that there are threads thatgo back all

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/30/05 3:43 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I'd like to hear what Dana Sawyer says when you quote all this (plus > > whatever face-saving commentary you add, of course). > > I won't add any, since I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/30/05 3:43 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'd like to hear what Dana Sawyer says when you quote all this (plus > whatever face-saving commentary you add, of course). I won't add any, since I don't have a vested interest in this debate and know little about it. I'll just forward

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Swami Shantananda's response was to laugh and say "Let me put it to > you this way: he would have been my first choice as my sucessor but > they would allow it due to the caste laws." Should read "they would not a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-30 Thread sparaig
LOL. Talk about making sure that you get the response you're looking for. Tell him that Anoop Chandola is a guy who learned to meditate from Swami Shantananda during the period when MMY was with the Beatles, because his family had religious clout in Northern India (who chose to meet with Swami

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > People have lots of recollections too. One of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-20 Thread safeite
> I like the idea that moral development must precede higher spiritual > attainments. Otherwise those attainments can be misused. I wonder whether > this is a recommendation or a requirement. Originally it was a requirement for even learning knowledge period. But typically a teacher assesses th

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > People have lots of recollections too. One of > > mine is that what Sparaig just said about the > > TM-Sidhis culturing Unity comes dir

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > In other

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > In other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple > meditation this path, > and > > > yogic siddhis will block

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, and > > yogic siddhis will block the path. > > So do you think MMY knew this and wanted t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Rick Archer wrote: >> I once heard a story, possibly from someone who witnessed the >> incident (but >> I'm not sure) that Maharishi and a few of his disciples were visiting >> another guru and a few of his. The other guru told one of his >> disciples to >> go into

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > I like the idea that moral development must precede higher spiritual > attainments. Otherwise those attainments can be misused. I wonder > whether > this is a recommendation or a requirement. We see so many examples of > people > who apparently

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Ingegerd
The oldest and most profound ethical standard is: "Do not do anything to others, that you do not want others to do to you". I would not trust anybody as Enlightened, if they do not live according to that standard. In my eyes it includes no lies, not steal, not cheat and also not experiment with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 12:05 PM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > on 6/19/05 11:34 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: >> >>> on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple medita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 11:34 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > >> on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, >>> and >>> yogic siddhis will block the path. >> >> So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Vaj
On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, >> and >> yogic siddhis will block the path. > > So do you think MMY knew this and wanted to block people's CC, or > d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, and > yogic siddhis will block the path. So do you think MMY knew this and wanted to block people's CC, or disagreed with it and felt the sidhis would culture CC? To su

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/18/05 1:19 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > If I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/18/05 1:19 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> If I am missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. >>> >>> Done. >>> >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread Vaj
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:53 AM, akasha_108 wrote: > (vaj: I have this work, it is excellent if you are interested in this > kind of thing.) No, I already have a copy, thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'J

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-18 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Plus 8 scholarly books [by chandol] on linguistics and music. What has Dana Saw

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> If I am > >> missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. > >> > > > > Done. > > > "Discovering Brides by Anoop Chandola" > > That settles it. H

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> If I am > >> missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. > >> > > > > Done. > > > "Discovering Brides by Anoop Chandola" > > That settles it. H

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/18/05 12:47 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> If I am >> missing relevant info on Chandol, plese provide it. >> > > Done. > "Discovering Brides by Anoop Chandola" That settles it. He's the ultimate authority on the Shankaracharya controversy. To subscribe, send a message to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-06-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/18/05 12:31 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dana Sawyer travels to India almost yearly, and interviews 100s of > swamis, teachers, shakaracharas regularly. Sorry I haven't weighed in on this discussion. I'm now 462 posts behind. I feel like that guy in "Master and Commander" wh