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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana
As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em
and I'm currently being evaluated for disability due to OCD/ADHD.
L
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rning. Maybe if Sparaig didn't do TM he would be
dead for all you know.
From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana
As far as I can tell, I think a
:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana
As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em
and I'm currently being evaluated for disability due to OCD/ADHD.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Re "There'
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From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedanta, TM and Vipassana
As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em and
I'm currently
As far as I can tell, I think a mantra without effort with the best of 'em and
I'm currently being evaluated for disability due to OCD/ADHD.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Re "There's no monitoring required to "do" TM. In fact, you can get lost for
hours in thought if you
Re "There's no monitoring required to "do" TM. In fact, you can get lost for
hours in thought if you have mental health problems as I do, and still be
"doing" TM correctly.":
I have wondered if people with OCD or similar obsessive habits can think a
mantra "effortlessly" !
On 6/4/2014 10:51 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
> actually, Maharishi enver said there was effot involved. Someone else
> kept insisting that there HAD to be effot involved, and the topic was
> "thinking the mantra," not monitoring whether or not you WERE thinking
> the mantra.
actually, Maharishi enver said there was effot involved. Someone else kept
insisting that there HAD to be effot involved, and the topic was "thinking the
mantra," not monitoring whether or not you WERE thinking the mantra.
Sheesh.
How many ways can people misunderstand simple instructions?
Of course there is monitoring to do in TM as a mental technique unless you are
one of those who simply lays down or lounge back and go to sleep as your
meditation. I got these old tapes from India TTC where Maharishi very
specifically goes through that TM does involve some [small] effort to att
There's no monitoring required to "do" TM. In fact, you can get lost for hours
in thought if you have mental health problems as I do, and still be "doing" TM
correctly.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Vipassana and TM interwoven,
Mindful Notes of a Fairfield meditating
Vipassana and TM interwoven,
Mindful Notes of a Fairfield meditating satsang:
Vipassanaic TM:
[Once upon a time at a meeting a few years ago in Fairfield, Iowa ]
".. We’re going to talk about transcendence in relation to vaipassana. These
two practices are interwoven for me. What has meshed?
Of course I am familiar with the EEG of TM. In fact I was a subject for
a study and the University of Washington. I didn't produce alpha waves
but theta. Alpha can be induced by just simple breathing techniques.
Theta and delta are more indicative of advanced meditation states.
Have you ev
On 5/31/2014 7:13 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
> Sorry Lawson, but I put in years of study about this with very real
> teachers plus I also learned to teach TM. You did not and are just
> making shit up. I understand you want the "home team to win" but this
> ain't
You're familiar with the EEG of TM and other practices?
And I'm not making stuff up, though I understand why you might want to believe
so.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Sorry Lawson, but I put in years of study about this with very real teachers
plus I also learne
Replying again:
You're implying that you are more familiar witht he EEG research than I am,
but you don't provide any links to research that shows that some specific
meditation practice has the same EEG effects as TM, letalone show that it is
the mantra that is important, rather than the gest
Sorry Lawson, but I put in years of study about this with very real
teachers plus I also learned to teach TM. You did not and are just
making shit up. I understand you want the "home team to win" but this
ain't a ballgame.
On 05/31/2014 02:18 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You
You are assuming that it is only the mantra that is different about TM.
You are also assuming that, without looking at the EEG, that all practices
that use the "proper" mantra work the same.
Neither assumption may be correct.
The research I am referring to was done on:
13 Tibetan
On 05/31/2014 10:48 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
The thing is, Vipassana and virtually other practice besides TM,
affects the brain in a different way than TM.
No true at all. There are lots of other meditation programs that use
beej mantras (at teach at a fraction of the
The thing is, Vipassana and virtually other practice besides TM, affects the
brain in a different way than TM.
ALL forms of meditation that have been studied thus far, whether they are from
a "Vedic" tradition or otherwise, reduce the connectivity of the self-centers
of the brain from teh res
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