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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip You *must* know? You do not have the right to must
anything, dude. But since you want to play games
instead of continue your Intro Lecture and sales
pitch, I'll play along a little.
snip
I think we are done. You
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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---(below - in my view). No. By all means, attain the Self, the
non-
dual state described by the Neo-Advaitins; but don't regard that
as
the ultimate goal, or even being close to Enlightenment, unless
one has
made
On May 29, 2008, at 12:53 AM, yifuxero wrote:
---(below - in my view). No. By all means, attain the Self, the non-
dual state described by the Neo-Advaitins; but don't regard that as
the ultimate goal, or even being close to Enlightenment, unless one
has
made the progression through the
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip You *must* know? You do not have the right to must
anything, dude. But since you want to play games
instead of continue your Intro Lecture and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@
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---(below - in my view). No. By all means, attain the Self, the
non-
dual state described by the Neo-Advaitins; but don't regard that
as
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
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snip You *must* know? You do not have the right to must
anything, dude. But since you want to play games
instead of continue your Intro
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@
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---(below - in my view). No. By all means, attain the Self,
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip You *must* know? You do not have the right to must
anything, dude. But since you want to play games
instead of continue your Intro Lecture and
On May 29, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
I was just down near Kansas City, on a Waking Down retreat, and I
asked Krishna Gauci ( http://www.krishnasatsang.com/ ) about FFL's
Buddhist fundamentalists who insist that one must achieve all these
states of esoteric duality. Krishna's
Barry wrote:
You do not have the right to must
anything, dude.
Jim wrote:
You misrepresented yourself as asking
questions initially as a student...
John wrote:
...'enlightened guy' takes a powder when
the heat builds up under examination.
Both Barry and John are impostor TM
Uncle Tantra wrote:
My definitions of enlightenment center around
the relationship one has with other sentient
beings.
So, that's your definition of 'enlightenment',
that there is a 'relationship' between 'sentient'
beings.
But what is the definition of 'sentience'?
Sentience is the
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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snip You *must* know? You do not have the right to must
anything, dude. But
On May 29, 2008, at 12:08 PM, sandiego108 wrote:
You are talking apples and oranges here John. Claiming authorship of
action is false attachment borne of ego. Creation of the world is as
a result of the three gunas at play,
Would that be Huey, Dewey, and Louie, Jim?
creating all
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On May 29, 2008, at 12:08 PM, sandiego108 wrote:
You are talking apples and oranges here John. Claiming
authorship of
action is false attachment borne of ego. Creation of the world
is as
a result of the three
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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Definitions 2-5 are all mind states. And the same sort of things
occur with increased satva. What distinguishes satvic states from your
def of enlightenemnt?
You once mentioned no ownership of thoughts as a definition of E.
While that is a virtue, IMO, and has strong implications for behavior,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---No - that's only the Neo-Advaitin state of non-duality, not
Enlightenment. There's a big gulf between the Neo-Advaitin state as
described below (and exhibited by numerous Neo-Advaitins giving a
similar description
---(below - in my view). No. By all means, attain the Self, the non-
dual state described by the Neo-Advaitins; but don't regard that as
the ultimate goal, or even being close to Enlightenment, unless one has
made the progression through the Kundalini signs. The Neo-Advaitins
haven't done this.
Enlightenment:
TM is an excellent and effective technique for
gaining a permanent state of enlightenment.
Ignorance:
A few questions, Jim:
How do you know that your purported state
of enlightenment is permanent? Could it not
change tomorrow, or next week?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip My first two questions as your student are:
1. How do you know you're enlightened?
These are excellent questions. In order to answer this first one, I
have to ask you first, what do you mean by enlightened? I have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip My first two questions as your student are:
1. How do you know you're enlightened?
These are excellent questions. In order to answer this
---Right: besides, permanent Realization is not equal to
Enlightenment. E. is a larger set which includes permanent
Realization, but the latter may not necessarily include E. So, one
should be careful in the usage of such phrases.
Just my opinion. Most of the Neo-Advaitins are permanently
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snip My first two questions as your student are:
1. How do you know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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---No - that's only the Neo-Advaitin state of non-duality, not
Enlightenment. There's a big gulf between the Neo-Advaitin state as
described below (and exhibited by numerous Neo-Advaitins giving a
similar description of non-duality); and Enlightenment as
demonstrated by Sakyamuni Buddha,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Interesting answers, but not to the question I was asking,
or meaning to ask. I didn't make it clear enough in my
first try, and that is my fault. I wasn't asking whether
it was possible that you could be mistaken
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip Interesting answers, but not to the question I was asking,
or meaning to ask. I didn't make it clear enough in my
first try, and that is my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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snip Interesting answers, but not to the question I was asking,
or meaning
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