From: Vaj
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On
Mar 15, 2005, at 9:45 AM, cardemaister wrote:
> Funny
coincidence, in Finnish "saum
That's funny Cardypuss.
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> Well there is a very old tradition of soma whic
On Mar 15, 2005, at 9:45 AM, cardemaister wrote:
> Funny coincidence, in Finnish "sauma" means 'seam; joint'.
> OTOH, "soma" means 'pretty, sweet, nice', but it's pronounced
> with a short o-sound, as opposed to Skt "soma", pronounced with
> a long o-sound, approx. like "saw-ma", but with more "
There is also some solid evidence, I am
told, that the sama--the actual "Vedic" hymns were pre-Vedic, dating from the
stone age basically. They were co-opted and codified by the
Aryans.-Vaj
Yeah, that pipilikamaddya has a real nice beat.
Step upon their heads like frogs under the w
> Well there is a very old tradition of soma which may date to
> pre-Vedic
> times, and that is the Soma-siddhanta. It is a tantric practice
> and
> centers around a bizarre etymology of the word soma. In tantra,
> different approaches to the state of Unity will be concealed by
> two
> words
On Mar 14, 2005, at 11:38 PM, mark robert wrote:
Vaj,
This is interesting. Tell me more about “Soma-siddhanta”. I could not find anything about its history. You call it a tradition and a practice. Is it a book or texts? What is its liturgical basis? You say it could be older than the Vedas. U
There is also a longstanding tradition that cannabis sativa is
the soma plant. No firm opinion here.L B S---Nah, never
heard that and I've spent years at the Shroomery, Bluelight, Nanooks, and so on
you get the idea. The plant most often thought of as soma is the beautiful
amanita. Of cou
From: Vaj
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Mar 14, 2005, at 8:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote:
> Are you
under the impression that Soma o
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If so, y
On Mar 14, 2005, at 9:44 PM, m2smart4u2000 wrote:
> Ephedra is the Mua hang plant used in Chinese medicene. It basically
> counter acts Kapha and is excellent for people with breathing
> disorders ie mucus and colds. It helps in weight loss and therefore
> I bought out the market before it becam
Ephedra is the Mua hang plant used in Chinese medicene. It basically
counter acts Kapha and is excellent for people with breathing
disorders ie mucus and colds. It helps in weight loss and therefore
I bought out the market before it became illegal to sell. I find
that caffiene has a much str
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
SNIP
Easyone wrote
> > Bob
> > You have clearly shown the complete surrender of your own opinion,
> reasoning, thought
> > and well, I guess everything to M and whoever else meets your
> requirements for being
> > "in the know". Does this restrict it
On Mar 14, 2005, at 8:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote:
> Are you under the impression that Soma only existed in Rig Veda times?
> I don't know that it did or did not, though I speculate that it has
> been formulated in its outer form at various times through the ages.
Well there is a very old tradition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If so, you are definitely suggesting
> > links to Soma. I mean, the Rig Veda is/was the origin of the
> > word. No other definition of Soma that came later could possibly
> > be more accurate.
I am not sure why oldest i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> From: akasha_108 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:41 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] R
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have confidence, based on my experience with the centerpiece of
> > Vedic culture (TM), that Maharishi's revival of Vedic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "S.A. Feite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi Bob:
>
> >
> > When soma has done its job, and Brahman/Unity Consciousness is
> > gained, then the body produces amrita, the nectar of immortality,
> > which allows one to live forever in that body if desir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> _
> > Bob,
> >
> >
> >
> > It's nice that you can have so much faith in those who claim to
> > know Soma without supplying a sound Vedic foundation. I mean
> the
> > problem is the contrary evidence pr
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In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"mark robert" <[EMAIL PROT
Re: ephedra with cannabis
I guess you could call that a Vedic speedball.
The only upper/downer combo I'm familiar with is caffeine and
alcohol, and I must admit getting wired on black coffee before
getting hammered drunk is quite a thrill ride.
Alex, sober 9+ years
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> One of the articles in the Journal of Vedic studies attempted to
> prove, thru this detailed
> textual analysis, that soma was in fact the ephedra plant. The
> real reason that the Vedic
> rishis we
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante"
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> > I have confidence, based on my experience with the centerpiece of
> > Vedic culture (TM), that Maharishi's revival of Vedic wi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have confidence, based on my experience with the centerpiece of
> Vedic culture (TM), that Maharishi's revival of Vedic wisdom (the
> Ayurveda and Soma-explaining content of which he handed off to
> Chopra) is
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> From: Bob Brigante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:46 PM
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> When soma has done its job, and Brahman/Unity Consciousness is
> gained, then the body produces amrita, the nectar of immortality,
> which allows one to live forever in that body if desired.
Rgveda VIII 48
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> From: Bob Brigante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mar 13, 2005, at 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is
it also your belief? Do you consider this
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In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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> There
is also a longstand
On Mar 13, 2005, at 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is it also your belief? Do you consider this magic creeper to be
>> the last word on the identity of external Soma? Does it sound
>> like the Soma that the Rig Veda seems to be describing? It
>> doesn't to me.
I have heard the same story,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> > There is also a longstanding tradition that cannabis sativa is the
> soma plant. No firm
> > opinion here.
> >
> > L B S
>
> **
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There is also a longstanding tradition that cannabis sativa is the
soma plant. No firm
> opinion here.
>
> L B S
**
Deepak Chopra's first book, Return of the Rishi, convinced me that
the soma plant is a very rare pla
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: Vaj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:20 PM
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From: Vaj
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On
Mar 13, 2005, at 12:10 PM, mark robert wrote:
>
> If you
believe in an external Soma and that
On Mar 13, 2005, at 12:10 PM, mark robert wrote:
>
> If you believe in an external Soma and that no one knows its real
> identity, is it not worthy of continued investigation? What, in the
> Vedic world, would be more worthy of knowing?
>
>
I have heard from a couple of sources on the actual
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>
>
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> Cardemaister,
>
>
>
> Thank-you for the alternate translation. Is it yours?
>
Oh no, I forgot to mention it's Ralph T.H. Griffith's:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigv
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark
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wrote:
> F
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> For example, what do you suppose MMY would have to say about
> Vedic passages like this?
>
>
>
>
>
> 9.034.03 They press the crushed Soma as it pours forth its juice
> between the e
For example, what do
you suppose MMY would have to say about Vedic passages like this?
9.034.03 They press
the crushed Soma as it pours forth its juice between the effusing stones, they
milk out its juice by their acts.
9.034.04 The exhilarating Soma is
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