Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-03 Thread Vaj
On Jun 3, 2009, at 2:24 AM, emptybill wrote: And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you have no clue what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never discussed them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my credentials and authorizations might be. It'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-02 Thread Vaj
On Jun 2, 2009, at 1:21 PM, emptybill wrote: No doubt, just for Vaj, they must have brushed off Adi-Shankara's disagreement with Pancharatra theology as discussed in his Brahmasutra Bhasya. Thus his now it can be told - this is more insider revelation that only Vaj-duta would claim. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-02 Thread Vaj
On Jun 2, 2009, at 2:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: Thanks Vaj for saying that. I am not here to do the "pile on Vaj" thing. Its just when you make statements like "the shankaracharya ord

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-02 Thread Vaj
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Well lets see. I have been to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad 4 times. The last time was this past April, but Vasudevanandaji was not there so it was pretty quiet. I just walked around a bit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: Thanks Vaj for saying that. I am not here to do the "pile on Vaj" thing. Its just when you make statements like "the shankaracharya order is Vaishnavite" and my experience is s the oposite I had to chime in. I couldn't agree more, Ra

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-01 Thread Vaj
On Jun 1, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote: >> >> Depends on a number of things really Lurk. A big one for me is 'what >> do I perceive as their underlying intention?'. Another is 'is this >> just another "pile on" post? I'm not a fan of digital rugby. Do I >> have enough time and is it wor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-01 Thread Vaj
On May 31, 2009, at 9:26 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: "Randy Meltzer" wrote: Any comments Vaj? I have noticed sometimes at this point the call gets dropped. Depends on a number of things really Lurk. A big one for me is 'what do I perceive as their underlying intention?'. Another

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Lurk, do *you* "stay on the line" when the person on the other end clearly has his dick out of his pants waving it around and saying, "Can you match this, bozo?" I don't know about you, but I tend to get a little tired of the heavy breathing on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-06-01 Thread Vaj
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Vaj, Again you make the statement that the tradition is not Shaivite. On what basis are you saying this? Have you been to Jyotir Math? Have you been to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad? It woul

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-31 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:50 PM, shukra69 wrote: > Don't think he has an employer to worry about , he would be self employed at > a Colorado Shamballa center or selling paraphenalia > http://www.odiyana.com/contact_us.php > But Vaj says that he has to be very careful to conceal his identity beca

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 31, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: Hey empty bill Thanks for your words of encouragement. I have already had a previous run in with Mr. Vaj. When I said in a previous post that as far as I am concerned, I have ex

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 31, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Yes I have read Bhaja Govindam. Shankara is famous for being an advaita teacher but also having the ability to have the devotional aspect of bhakti. Just because he refers to Govinda in th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 31, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Vaj, What makes you think that the shankaracharya tradition is a "vaishnavite" group? Because the guru-parampara originates with Narayana and Shankara was a Vaishnavite. Have you read S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: Like Judy pointed out, it's totally common for Indian devotees to extol assumed enlightened saints and gurus with over the top honorifics, and the idea that one of Maharishi's early followers gave him that designation out of their own rever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2009, at 5:31 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote: The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that "people" started using it, and he didn't object. Exactly. So someone must be lying.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: Not necessarily, but that's not the point. However he got the honorific, Maharishi certainly felt it was appropriate and never demurred. Many agreed with him and lots didn't. Sorry to be a stickler but you're assuming it's honorific withou

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2009, at 12:01 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" wrote: Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's dissertation that appear in a google search. I'd like to read the res

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote: > The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that "people" > started using it, and he didn't object. Exactly. So someone must be lying.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 29, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: > Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM, > writes that in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir > Math, Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's successor, > Shantanand, and predecessor of the cur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-29 Thread Vaj
On May 29, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jason wrote: I want to know who gave him the title *Maharishi* .?? Why does he put his bald head in all the org's emblems.?? I think he was a good meditation teacher, but a very poor Philosophy teacher.!! Paradoxicaly, I know many go

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was "What is Enlightenment?" - MMY

2009-05-29 Thread Vaj
On May 29, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Yeah, compared to S.N. Goenka, the Marshy is a sheer genius at meditation! There's a lot of difference between transcendental meditation and mood-making with concentration on various human body parts. Vaj wrote: Similar techniques are