Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-19 Thread Les Mikesell
nnect your dhcp-serving interface there. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-19 Thread Les Mikesell
. You might avoid it if you run a nameserver and squid proxy on the host and configure the clients to use the proxy. Otherwise you need the host to route the packets if you have a NAT gateway elsewhere, or to route and NAT if nothing but the host knows about this subnet. -- Les Mikesell

Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-18 Thread Les Mikesell
a standard codec which leaves you pretty much in the same shape as needing flash. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/C

Re: Domain of sender address ... does not resolve

2008-11-14 Thread Les
Check your samba filters. Regards, Les H On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 09:55 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I just did a new FC9 (fully updated) install, and it regularly rejects > outgoing > mail with the subject error message. The address does resolve, of course, so > I'm > no

Re: [Fwd: Quota function]

2008-11-14 Thread Les
you need the admin password or the sudoers password to make this work. If you set up the system yourself, you should have the admin password, otherwise, contact the system administrator. Regards, Les H On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 21:40 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear All, > > Would yo

Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
bruce wrote: hi les/guys... assume you had/have a usb/external drive that was connected to the laptop. assume that it was also the same size (2.5") as the laptop drive... couldn't you set up a process to do a complete rsync/backup every x hours of everything on the drive in use.

Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
achine to hold a compressed disk image. http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/ -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: dependency champion?

2008-11-07 Thread Les Mikesell
ime or not? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: freenx 7.3

2008-11-06 Thread Les Mikesell
Roman Makurin wrote: В Втр, 04/11/2008 в 09:46 -0600, Les Mikesell пишет: Does anyone have step-by-step instructions for using freenx 7.3's ability to remotely mirror the console session? I'm trying to do it under Centos but maybe someone here has more experience with it. I can mi

freenx 7.3

2008-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
t been able to get a connection to the console session. If I say I want a vnc session I can see mirroring the console as a choice but haven't been able to make it connect. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://ww

Re: screen + vim + paste -> not happy

2008-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
r the initial screen draw. If you haven't tried it, it is much more responsive on remote connections than other remote X approaches and cross platform clients are easy to install. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscr

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-03 Thread Les
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 11:48 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > >>>> Which one do you think is better and for what > >> reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora > >>>> 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. > >>>> > >>>

Re: Fedora / RedHat - The problem

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
sfied customers, -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Fedora / RedHat - The problem

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
else and probably for a longer time than anything else. Blame vista for changing interfaces which is what breaks things. Something Microsoft does every decade or so (and maybe they've learned something from it now) and linux continues to do about every month. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROT

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
y contrast, even near the end of FC6's life, a kernel update would not boot on some common scsi controllers. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guideline

Re: Fedora / RedHat - The problem

2008-11-03 Thread Les Mikesell
reation of *.rpmnew or *.rpmsave files get logged somewhere? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 21:54 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: Chris Tyler wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 20:41 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: I would certainly find Fedora more useful if it got security fixes for a year instead of six months. Fedora gets security fixes and updates for

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:21:04 -0600, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: work as a business. The Delorian is best known as the car in the "Back to the Future"movies. Perhaps, but their owner's creative ideas in financing also got them a lo

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
bug fixes in the updates to understand why you really don't want to upgrade anything important until after about 6 months after a release. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
od match to what fedora does. Have you heard of that one? It stuck all the new technology available in 1957 into one car. Engineering-wise it was not bad at all, but it was such a flop in acceptance that the name became a joke. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing li

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
better fit. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
't be supported with interchangeable parts? You aren't talking Ford and Chevy here - it's more like DeLorian and Tesla. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-l

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
nstead of beating your head ageist the wall trying to change the goals of the rest of us? Basically I'm just wondering out loud where the next server distribution is going to come from. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Are you working simply to improve your computer? I thought the machines were supposed to work for us. Some people like to explore the way machines work, and modify them, rather then just use them. If we didn't have people that like to &q

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Claude Jones wrote: On Fri October 31 2008 1:06:10 pm Les Mikesell wrote: The real problem with this from a user's perspective is that no version of fedora ever 'matures'. I have no idea why I'm jumping in to this, Les, but the real problem is that you refuse to accept t

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: The real problem with this from a user's perspective is that no version of fedora ever 'matures'. That is, you can participate in the process, report bugs, etc., but you never end up with a resulting improved, stable version that is

Re: Fedora vs RedHat

2008-10-31 Thread Les Mikesell
iscarded and replaced with new betas from upstream. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Remote Rescue - PXE, SSH, and a remote console?

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
d up with at least a framebuffer containing a root xterm in the waiting remote vncviewer. But, those options don't work together. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fed

Re: Ubuntu Ibex offers choice of KDE4.1.2 or KDE3.5.10... and kernel-2.6.27.

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
has a price factor that might make it attractive - and they give away toys. When the choice is among free linux distributions, what is the point of making one into something users don't want? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsub

Re: OT: find command permissions: how to exclude dir?

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
other mounted filesystems. (Does anyone else think .gvfs is a PITA?) I usually throw in the -mount option to find on general principles to keep it from walking into isos or nfs mounts that might be in arbitrary places and explicitly list the mount points I want if it has to span them. --

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
M itself. Yes, it is a project policy and philosophy difference that permits the repositories to be coordinated. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fe

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:02:46AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Sure, but there were reasons that SysV, AIX, Solaris, HPUX etc. didn't share the best way do everything. Among opensource builds of essentially the same upstream packages there's less excuse t

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:28:22AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: However, there are conceptual differences in system administration so it is somewhat painful to jump back and forth between ubuntu and an RPM based system with redhat-style configuration frequently. True; but

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
pplications on different machines to isolate them. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Les Mikesell
d save the GUIness for when you want to pick a new package or two? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Trying to reconfigure F9 to new computer hardware... firstboot?

2008-10-29 Thread Les Mikesell
hardware and drivers. You can sort-of get most of the effect by making /boot a separate partition, doing a basic install on the new hardware, then removing everything except /boot and copying in your old stuff, but that seems unnecessarily cumbersome. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PRO

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-29 Thread Les Mikesell
static IP (or dynamic dns) you can make it connect. If you only need to connect to the tunnel endpoint you can use private addresses for the tunnel and add routing for it on your home side. For more than that you'll need routing set up on both sides or NAT on the tunnel box. -- Les Mik

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-28 Thread Les Mikesell
As long as you don't check the box under 'advanced' that says 'disable encryption of all traffic' everything should run through its internally set up ssh tunnel (which shouldn't care that it is running through your reverse tunnel_. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-28 Thread Les Mikesell
reenx always performs better for me, except perhaps for the initial screen draw and I use it over a local lan, remote cablemodem, and an assortment of slower remote connections. What are the circumstances where vnc works better for you? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list ma

Re: X over a reverse SSH tunnel

2008-10-26 Thread Les Mikesell
at you can download from http://www.nomachine.com. You can connect using only port 22 so your firewall probably already permits it and remote performance is much better than vnc. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: What are your unsatisfied NetworkManager use cases?

2008-10-22 Thread Les Mikesell
r the default gateway or the DNS servers that are offered. That is, I just want to be able to reach the addresses on that branch, not route anything through it. Screwing up your default gateway is at least as bad as resolv.conf. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list f

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
ompress it by hand? I thought /etc/mdadm.conf wasn't really necessary anymore - and you said the rescue mode boot worked when it obviously couldn't read it. What happens if you just remove it? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redha

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Jeffrey Ross wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I extracted the initrd file and looked at the file "init". in this file I can see the following (relevant) information.. echo Creating block device nodes. mkblkdevs echo "loading raid1 module" modprobe -

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
robe md" before this? Did you build this configuration with the installer or have you copied a working system to a different machine? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/li

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
mention, but are the underlying partition types set to FD (raid autodetect). I don't see why they'd work from the rescue boot if they aren't though unless you are assembling them by hand. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: howto join lines

2008-10-01 Thread Les Mikesell
Not by itself, but its a reasonable thing to run in backticks so the shell will do it for you: echo `cat multi_line_file` or echo $(cat multi_line_file`) if you prefer that syntax. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscrib

Re: [Fwd: Config Network Setting]

2008-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
u can also include ETHTOOL_OPTS in your ifcfg-ethX file to force a setting but if the other end of the connection is set to autonegotiate both ends must negotiate - and current equipment usually gets it right. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-li

Re: Preventing rsync of copying always all files to my pen

2008-09-27 Thread Les Mikesell
eas? Are you sure it is really doing a copy? Rsync will attempt to update the file attributes and display the name if you use -v, but they won't quite match between fat and linux filesystems so it will do it again next time. It shouldn't take much time, though. -- Les Mikes

Corsair 16G USB Flash Drive

2008-09-20 Thread Les
error -110 usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 But the drive mounts and reads correctly under windows. Any ideas? Regards, Les H -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redha

Re: Installation of multiple Linux Instances

2008-09-19 Thread Les Mikesell
, run them natively on the host or a different system and let the clients connect remotely. If you need to test the database server side under different OS versions you could try iscsi disk connections instead of vmware images. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list f

Re: PDA Calendar sync (was Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice)

2008-09-12 Thread Les Mikesell
a mac or a pc with its outlook sync software will work with it. Is there a free equivalent? Or some other wireless device that works as well as the ipod touch? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailm

Re: OT Electronics Help

2008-09-12 Thread Les
There are also several kinds of "H" drivers on the market that can drive the pump based upon duty cycle which gives the same effect as current control, but with more torque available. Regards, Les H On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 21:02 +, g wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-09 Thread Les Mikesell
ay with autodetection of devices, etc. you may find you need more things running just in case. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedorapro

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-09 Thread Les Mikesell
ay or may not be better than seeing it in your MUA's outbox until it is delivered at least to a reliable forwarding relay. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
prefer to configure their MUA(s) to speak SMTP directly with an ISP or 3rd party relay, but the preference is more likely due to the nicer fill-in-the-form configuration interface instead of the overall functionality. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@red

Re: grandma-rated mail reader

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Give thunderbird a try. It looks/works pretty much the same across linux/windows/mac and is all pretty obvious. Thanks, I'll have a look at it. At first glance it still seems to have more bells and whistles tha

Re: grandma-rated mail reader

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
m calendar mode to mail reader mode (or why the modes are hidden in a second-level pull-down.) There must be something simpler out there. Help. Give thunderbird a try. It looks/works pretty much the same across linux/windows/mac and is all pretty obvious. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROT

Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend

2008-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
out one of the mirrors and sync'ing to a new one. Plus, you don't have to worry about matching up with the old controller if you want to move a disk or a set. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
ople capable of that - but in the planned scenario the same person has to also possess the old signing key. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
why you need a different reason to trust the key than the content it verifies. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/w

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
ing the key at all if you implicitly trust the delivery mechanism of the RPM packages? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
is a way to start from scratch so you can't fool anyone. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
al repositories. Can any key trust scenario where they have to obtain a new key protect against installing modified packages? (i.e. assume that the fake key and packages come from the same place(s) pretending to be the official repositories and mirrors). -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
#x27;t does as well. if ! ifconfig eth0 | grep -q 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx then echo 'wrong box' exit 1 fi ..rest of script.. You could also find this value in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
ike OS? I disagree with that, although you do have a point that the current state makes it difficult enough to set up that many users don't bother. But I don't think that justifies removing it - and I'd expect more than logwatch to have RPM dependencies on a mail transport.

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
- or pretty much anywhere, including using SMTP authentication and SSL. I'd agree that this is more difficult than necessary and should have the same fill-in-the-form GUI that an MUA would have for the same items, but not that the functionality isn't there or isn't needed. --

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-05 Thread Les Mikesell
fer... I'm looking at the majority of users here. Simply because you use sendmail to send you an email or atd to tell you to wake up in the morning doesn't mean default Fedora install users use it. This kind of elitist attitude does Fedora no good. I don't think it is elit

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-05 Thread Les Mikesell
I don't know what you think 'normal' users do, but most of the point of having a computer is that it can do things for you automatically. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-03 Thread Les Mikesell
ike quite a lot of generally-useful stuff too, particularly the inclusion of a compatibly packaged Sun Java which is rather difficult to come by in Centos-land. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/m

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-03 Thread Les Mikesell
the Centosplus repository with a kernel containing some drivers and filesystems present in fedora but removed from RHEL and some other things. I'm not sure what SL adds. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redh

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-03 Thread Les Mikesell
more trustworthy than the commercial services. That might be the case for some folks using the site in question. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraprojec

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-02 Thread Les Mikesell
in needed communications. I'd suggest reconsidering whether your community is important or not. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http:/

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-02 Thread Les Mikesell
w key. They have announced that they do not believe there is any risk from existing content. What do you want to know? When and how did the intrusion occur? How was it initially detected? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubsc

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-02 Thread Les Mikesell
not read because they are pink with blue text. Doubtless I could change the colours if I were sufficiently interested. Their colors are just fine, as is their choice to encrypt with a self-signed certificate. Your choice not to accept the page might also be reasonable if you understood why you

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-02 Thread Les Mikesell
rt. Otherwise it is probably just a site that only wants encryption for the data stream - or perhaps just the authentication, but http(s) doesn't provide a handy way to separate the steps. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: I don't really see the point of running an OS that is antagonistic toward the drivers and applications that would make it useful but I'm curious enough about how it is going to mesh with the next RHEL cut to keep watching. By the way,

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-29 Thread Les Mikesell
g wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Yes, as long as they match the project's policies. so what is wrong with that? Many, perhaps most, issues that users have with fedora have to do with the policy of hostility towards software that is not included in the distribution (and there is no poi

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-29 Thread Les Mikesell
nywhere. But you have to discard the questions and incorrect answers that a search will return and it's not really a good replacement for a tutorial on how to find, add, and maintain the components that fedora omits. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-29 Thread Les Mikesell
ve a specific need for a feature I can't get elsewhere before trying to deal with it. I don't really see the point of running an OS that is antagonistic toward the drivers and applications that would make it useful but I'm curious enough about how it is going to mesh with t

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-29 Thread Les Mikesell
part time? I did presume that when posting a link to a screenshot as proof that something works he might have read the associated article describing the parts that still don't work - or what some other developers had to say about it... -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Oh, sure. Feel free to look up the archives. Different conversation, I guess. You claimed a official Java implementation wouldn't have issues. OpenJDK is one. I expected more from the conformance test. Apparently

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
ation would not be so simple. see my reply to Antonio Olivares. I think you are mistaken. Are you on any mail lists that have run some time without an associated wiki, then added one? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubs

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
;s mistakes is what wastes time. Here's what one of their developers said more recently: http://n2.nabble.com/Broken-Startup-on-Fedora-9-td640408.html#a640628 -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redha

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: That's a matter of opinion. It may matter to you why your 3rd party application doesn't run. It matters to me whether it runs or not. It is not a matter of opinion. You claimed that if Fedora shipped official Java, then the prob

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
anoia pill dose is a bit low again The multi-media file thing was a good point once - and was addressed. Totem and friends now helpfully explain why your mp3 won't just play. But why isn't quite the point, or what anyone wants to know. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-li

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Nokia phone simulators and other stuff on top. OK, your idea of a new user is clearly a lot different than mine. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
ava and certified as such. You cannot continue to claim otherwise. If you still run into problems, you should be filing bug reports. Against what? Applications that specify that they require Sun Java 1.4 or 1.5? And what about that long history of shipping something known not to be Java?

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Anne Wilson wrote: Since we're talking wikis, we are putting together one for all thinks kde. ^^ Very appropriate terminology, intentional or not. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: That's slightly less important in f9 than it used to be but there are still plenty of things that won't work with openjdk. True but OpenJDK in Fedora 9 is 100% certified Java http://developer.redhatmagazine.com/2008/07/08/java-in-fedora-f

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
rting point. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
that have 'right' answers. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
o obtain a list of thousands of references to any particular topic - but sorting out the correct/relevant answers is the hard part, especially when the right answer changes over time. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https:

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
ficial, non-US site hosting a wiki to organize it (and perhaps those --release rpms to set up the missing yum repos). -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
sense - stuff like VMware, flash, realplayer), or how to install Sun Java, yet they are all equally shunned subjects in official channels. That is their right, of course, but it means that fedora users need to be prepared to find information and resources elsewhere. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL P

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 08:45 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Just the same way things work now except that there would be less repetition and once a pattern of showing useful info in the wiki emerged, people would start to look there first. Just like how people use Google instead of

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
rcial product work (flash/vmware/etc., etc.)? There are legal reasons for some of that for a US based company. Some is just anticompetitive philosophy. Regardless, what users need to know is not going to be supplied through any official channel. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
g wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: The ideal situation is to have volunteers that organize and maintain the answers to common questions on the mail list into a wiki so repeat questions can be answered with a link - or avoided by searching there first. so then every one who is going to reply to

Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list

2008-08-27 Thread Les Mikesell
easons are not mentioned, and probably can't be on any official fedora wiki either. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/w

Re: pulseaudio, howto make it work?

2008-08-26 Thread Les Mikesell
pulseaudio itself or just the way it is configured in fedora. I suspect the latter, but don't know where to find any documentation about undoing that setup without breaking other things. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?

2008-08-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Anders Karlsson wrote: * Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20080825 16:06]: Thomas Cameron wrote: I understand that the path to recovery from this kind of breach is incredibly painful, and there are numerous folks managing that recovery. Knowing that, doesn't it bother you that you

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