Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
i have prednisone here. She is currently on an every other day pill. she was put on it for anemia. she had 2 pills a day for 2 weeks, then went to a pill a day for a month. now she is on one pill every other day. she is still eating and seeming comfy but i'm worried sick about her. i'm waking

Re: cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread TenHouseCats
when the vet is coming, i start moving them all into the bedroom one at a time early in the day hee hee... one black persian, known for escaping from locked rooms, is the only one i have a serious problem corralling... and our house-call vets are cheaper than most of the usual ones! (we have a

RE: Ginger - throwing up

2005-04-08 Thread Chris
My Tucson had series of immuno-regulin shots twice;  both times were for very low wbc--both times the count came back up & she did not seem to have any side effects...-Original Message- From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Apr 8, 2005 3:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subj

Re: cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
I did not have the underwear trick in my files. Am making note.  :) Michelle   In a message dated 4/8/05 11:05:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last time I snagged Smoky, I had to sit around in the living room for 10 minutes in my underwear so he would think I

Re: cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread Barb Moermond
LOL  My vets are in good shape, but I can't afford their house calls!  For a vet and a tech to come to the house, it's $86 right off the bat.  Regular exam fees and everything else still apply.  Fortunately, I can usually con the boys.  It helps when they haven't been there in a while, they lose a

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Barb Moermond
Huh, there are some things my vet sends out, but one lab is just a couple hours north and they fax the results same day.  The other place that I've had things sent to through my vet was Fort Collins Colorado - there is an excellent vet school/lab there.  I would get Shelby started on steroids ASAP

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
they are sending the results out to somewhere, not sure where. i asked if they could get them any quicker. they said they could see if the person could pick up right away. they want to know what kind of cancer but i'm starting to think it doesn't matter at this point. i'd bet it is lymphoma and

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
Thank you again I fully expected to find out it had spread all over. her son died at 9 months with lymphoma in the intestine. i biopsied it and he died before the results came back. it had spread to his chest and lungs. they said they think her chest looks ok, along with kidneys, liver, st

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Barb Moermond
Amy, That the results take so long seems very odd to me; what are they checking besides cytology?  My Ninja had intestinal lymphoma (a palpable lump, I found it while petting her) and they did x-rays and a manual abdominal exam and a needle biopsy and the tech looked at it the next morning - her cy

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
I am pulling for you and Shelby.  I am so anxious about Shelby just from these emails, as it brings me back to what happened with Simon, Josephine, and Buddy.  I think you should ask the lymphoma list serve folks about surgery.  But I do not remember any of them ever mentioning their cats g

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
i just joined. i'll see what else i can find out. thank you so much. i hate sitting around doing nothing when i know my kitty could be getting treatment --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Actually the large cell aggressive lymphoma responds > better to chemo than > the small cell lymphoma. Th

Re: cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
With Quincy, the vet would have to be a good runner, as Quincy runs all over the place when any strangers try to go near him. The vets in my area are too out of shape. Michelle   In a message dated 4/8/05 10:36:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i've solved it a differ

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Actually the large cell aggressive lymphoma responds better to chemo than the small cell lymphoma. This is because chemo kills off lymphoma at the stage that it is dividing into new cells, and aggressive lymphoma does this faster and more frequently, or something like that.   Listen, I reall

Re: cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread TenHouseCats
i've solved it a different way--i use house-call vets! (that way, it's only the vet who needs any tranquilizing)

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
thank you so much for your advice. i will see if my vet would be willing to consult with cornell on this. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I see-- that's really far. Is there an internist > nearer by? Internists are > often pretty up to speed on chemotherapy as well. > You might be able t

Re: cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Might be worth buying a little cat bed to use for this purpose if you have any sticklers. Michelle   In a message dated 4/8/05 10:27:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great idea! (for those cats who sleep on beds, at least. picturing trying to fold up the human-

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
I see-- that's really far. Is there an internist nearer by?  Internists are often pretty  up to speed on chemotherapy as well.  You might be able to get an oncologist to consult with your regular vet by phone.  Didn't someone on the list say their oncologist is willing to do that?   Serious

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
They did the needle aspiration during the test but it takes 5-7 days for results. They were trying to rush it but it won't be back til next week. The tumor is palpable and her son died of lymphoma. the thing was he had large cell high grade lymphoma. they said in order for it to respond well, i

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Ultrasound specialists are usually just that, or maybe radiologists, but not oncologists or surgeons so I would not trust that.  Some oncologists will not make an appointment without a diagnosis, it's true, although I would think that a palpable tumor in an FeLV+ cat would be enough (it is a

Re: cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread TenHouseCats
great idea! (for those cats who sleep on beds, at least. picturing trying to fold up the human-sized cat bed and get it into a carrier)

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread TenHouseCats
i have to admit, i didn't ever taste them!

cat carrier trick

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Just another trick to add to the files-- had to take Quincy, my negative, to the vet today (he has crystals).  He is the hardest cat to get in a carrier, and I have been scratched and bitten a lot trying to get him in (backwards, forwards, carrier on side, etc.).  I have devised a fool-proof

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
That's what I'm worried about, it growing quickly and me not doing anything. The closest oncologist I have is 3 hours away :( --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Also, lymphoma if left untreated can move very fast. > I would really be > trying to get things done next day, not waiting days > in-b

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
The vet that was talking about surgery was the one that did the ultrasound, a specialist. My vet has not called me to discuss the ultrasound results yet. I'm thinking of calling an oncologist but they told me they won't do anything without knowing if we are dealing with lymphoma or carcinoma. Is

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Also, lymphoma if left untreated can move very fast. I would really be trying to get things done next day, not waiting days in-between each thing, even if you need to bug vets and insist. Now is the weekend so it is tricky to get an appoinment with an oncologist probably, but some are open o

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread Melbeach
Chewable, like Flinstones? Brissle does have a sweet tooth. I'll have to ask about that! Probably tuna flavor?   -Kyle - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Brissle Update - Good New

Re: Ginger - throwing up

2005-04-08 Thread Melbeach
Hideyo,   I didn't notice any side effects from the Immunoregulin. But I think Brissle is lucky that way. I'm wondering if Tabbys are a little bit hardier than other breeds? I think others have had issues with getting the dosage right? We used 0.5 ml on 7 lb Brissle, who used to be 9 lb. I r

Re: Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Is this a regular vet, or an internist or oncologist? I would see one of the latter, preferably an oncologist. My understanding is that they do not normally remove lymphoma surgically.  Steroids and chemo can shrink it to almost nothing if it responds.  Lymphoma tends to line organs and not

Re: need advice for Kurt

2005-04-08 Thread Nina
Macarena, I don't know if you've been following my problems with Gypsy, but she has IBD symptoms as well. There is a corticosteroid that is nonsystemic, (metabolizes quickly and then flushes from the system), so it reduces the side effects that Prednisone has. It's called Budesonide, (brand name

Re: OT:now my other dog has cancer!

2005-04-08 Thread catatonya
Good luck with Frasier, Barbara.  I hope to hear good news soon.   tBarbara Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi You all will stay in my thoughts and your furbabies in my prayers but right now I have to go to no mail and concentrate on my dog Frasier. I took him in for heartworm testing and the

Re: Muscle Spasms in TeeCee

2005-04-08 Thread Melbeach
That's real good news that he's eating! Sounds like you're doing something right. So how bad are the muscle spasms? Is it just slight twitching? You think it's worth changing what you're doing now? Such a puzzle! I did a quick Google search and it looks like alot of info. Did you put "muscle spasms

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread catatonya
No advice.  I'm just hoping for the best for Brissle.   tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: S**t, Kyle,Oh man, I can't even come up with anything else to say. Why does your vet suspect cancer? She's acting fine? The WBC is indicative of infection, right? What is L/M? Damn it Kyle, I feel like throwing

Shelby - Tumor

2005-04-08 Thread Amy Wilkins
I had written earlier in the week about my cat, Shelby, having a tumor in her abdomen. We had an ultrasound yesterday and they also did a needle aspiration to see if we are dealing with lymphoma or carcinoma. They said if it is lymphoma, we can consider surgery followed by chemo or just chemo. T

Re: need advice for Kurt

2005-04-08 Thread catatonya
Macarena,   I'm so sorry about Kurt.  I hope the vomiting is not due to kidney disease.  I'm behind on email so hope good news is coming.   tmaca cats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi everybody, I have been mostly lurking lately, sending my vibes to allthe sick kids and crying with the sudden deathas

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread TenHouseCats
there's a chewable baytril, too, that some cats seem to like a lot

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread Melbeach
I guess we'll find out about Baytril. I had our rx for Baytril refilled and already gave Brissle one earlier today. You give one pill a day. They're pretty big. I made an appt with an internist for Monday. He turned out to be the same guy my vet suggested going to. I'm curious to see what he

Re: need advice for Kurt

2005-04-08 Thread Sallyk1955
Title: AOL Email In a message dated 4/8/2005 3:29:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thank for all the advice and good thoughts. latest news are it was notdiabetes, but IBD. This I feel I can handle a little better,

Re: need advice for Kurt

2005-04-08 Thread Nina
Macarena, I don't know if you've been following my problems with Gypsy, but she has IBD symptoms as well. There is a corticosteroid that is nonsystemic, (metabolizes quickly and then flushes from the system), so it reduces the side effects that Prednisone has. It's called Budesonide, (brand n

RE: Muscle Spasms in TeeCee

2005-04-08 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
I’m thinking that it’s some kind of imbalance. The last four days I’ve been on my own and treating TeeCee. All the vets gave up on him and told me there was nothing else to do.   Steph   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL P

RE: Ginger - throwing up

2005-04-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Thank you, Michelle – I know what you mean.. all my other FeLV negative ones vomit all the time and I don’t think much of it unless they act ill – but when coming to Ginger, I am so paranoid about everything – Has anyone experienced any side effects from Immuno-regulin?  My holistic vet

Re: Muscle Spasms in TeeCee

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
rebounds are little miracles. I hope to god it continues for Tee Cee.  I do not know about muscle spasms. I only saw them in Simon when he was dying-- i.e. in his last few hours when he could not otherwise move. Michelle   In a message dated 4/8/05 6:43:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PR

Re: Ginger - throwing up

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Hi, Hideyo. I don't think vomiting itself is a symptom of FeLV, or that positive cats who are not otherwise sick do it any more than negative cats.   If her appetite is down but she has no other symptoms, I think I would try Immuno-regulin.  That article on the website says it helps with all

Muscle Spasms in TeeCee

2005-04-08 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell
TeeCee is getting BETTER!! He's up and walking around. Today I got a fish plate for lunch, he actually begged for some and at his first solid food in a week! But, he's having muscle spasms and right now I don't have a vet >it's a long story<. Can't find anything on the web about kitty spasms, y'al

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread TenHouseCats
hmmm, i thought doxy and/or erythromycin (that is NOT spelled correctly!) were the usual treatments of choice?On Apr 8, 2005 5:16 PM, Sue Feldbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Baytril usually works bests to treat hemobart.>From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: felvt

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread Sue Feldbusch
Baytril usually works bests to treat hemobart. From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:14:54 -0700 Yea Michelle! (Don't you just love her?). Kyle, I'd forgott

RE: OT: help me, please

2005-04-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I hope so – I feel badly, when we caught him three weeks ago, Susan’s friend wanted to adopt him, but I sort of discouraged her to do so (or at least I demanded that I speak with her and visit her house so that I can make sure that it’s a good home) because he was so feral, and he sort of l

RE: Ginger - throwing up

2005-04-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
She did not throw up right away, but did within a couple of hours - One of her eyes were sort of swollen, which I think I noticed last time when she was not feeling well (might not be related at all).. Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf O

Re: OT: help me, please

2005-04-08 Thread Melbeach
Hideyo, that's good news! If it's him, I'm sure he'll come back to you. He'd be crazy not to! Sending positive vibes your way!   -Kyle   - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: RE: OT:

Re: need advice for Kurt

2005-04-08 Thread Melbeach
That sounds like better news. Don't know anything about IBD, but sending good vibes your way! -Kyle - Original Message - From: "maca cats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Re: need advice for Kurt > thank for all the advice and good thoughts. lates

RE: Ginger - throwing up

2005-04-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Did she eat and immediately throw up (regurgitate) or wait a while to throw up? Gloria At 02:44 PM 4/8/2005, you wrote: Hi, Ginger threw up this morning, a lot. This happened once a few months ago, and I did not know it’s a common symptom for a FeLV kitty – Her appetite has not been great lately –

RE: OT: help me, please

2005-04-08 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Hideyo--I guess you can't access this area and do a search? (How far does the smell of tuna travel for a cat, anyone?) Hoping so much that you find the little soul. Continuing to send zillions of positive vibes. hugs, kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [m

RE: OT: help me, please

2005-04-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I just talked to Susan – and she thought she saw the boy kitty this morning – but he was in the weed which is 2 feet high and not sure if it was him or not, since he was facing back – I am desperately hoping and praying that it was him – and I don’t want give up a hope yet, I would apprecia

RE: Ginger - throwing up

2005-04-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, Ginger threw up this morning, a lot. This happened once a few months ago, and I did not know it’s a common symptom for a FeLV kitty – Her appetite has not been great lately – almost every day, I have been force-feeding her– don’t get me wrong – she does eat, but not as much as she u

RE: OT: help me, please

2005-04-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I just talked to one of AC – Jasmine (thank you for referral, Nina and Sally) – Jasmine feels that the boy kitty is not alive any more – she did not feel his soul in his body – He was telling her that there was something wrong with him internally for a long time (something like a cancer

Re: need advice for Kurt

2005-04-08 Thread maca cats
thank for all the advice and good thoughts. latest news are it was not diabetes, but IBD. This I feel I can handle a little better, and even though the crisis is not finished, I see more light at the end of the tunnel now. He has not vomitted since last night, he ate a little tuna, about half a spo

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread Lernermichelle
Anything I know I know from having gone through hell, as is the case with most of you, so it is nothing to think of as awesome. I love you people too, though! Michelle     In a message dated 4/8/05 3:46:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes we do love Michelle--she's

RE: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

2005-04-08 Thread Susan Loesch
The director of our rescue group says that we have to learn to say no sometimes - but I am afraid I haven't learned yet.Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hear you, Susan.  I started out only one cat 12 years ago,  and now have over 50 – and it can be overwhelming sometimes especia

Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News

2005-04-08 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
My gosh Kyle, I am sorry to hear this, I wish you and Brislle all the luck and love in the world ;-) CherieNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: S**t, Kyle,Oh man, I can't even come up with anything else to say. Why does your vet suspect cancer? She's acting fine? The WBC is indicative of infection, righ

Re: OT: help me, please

2005-04-08 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
You and your neighbor are turly special people, I am pulling for oyur boy to come back to you. CherieHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nina, may I have a phone number of the animal spiritual person you mentioned to me about before?  There is a boy kitty who has been missing since last