Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread Gina WN
There was nothing rude about your reply.  If a person really puts the welfare of their animal first, they would not be offended by the information you provided.  In my mind, they care more about their ego than they do about Tiger.  They are the creeps.GinaBelinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
That's wonderful that you live in a place you can be proud of. I wish I were so lucky. It's pretty Hellish in my neighborhood. The people that rented next door had a Pit Bull that they kept tied in the back yard night and day. The highlight of his day was when I would toss him milk bones, f

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Jimmy's story is very sad.  I'm so sorry that happened to the two of you.  We just can't allow ourselves to second guess what is in the past.  We can't know what would have happened if we took a different course than we did.  How can you possibly know what the outcome might have been?  You did

Re: OT:Need feedback please/Terrie's Computer crash!

2006-08-29 Thread TatorBunz
Belinda, You were not rude! I would have said the same thing as you. Yes, you did the right thing I certainly agree with Sherry. P.S. I wanted to let you all know I haven't been able to respond due to my computer crashing. I lost my Favorites which contained all my animal medical sites so w

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
There is no need for you to stick up for Linda. I understand completely why it isn't possible for any shelter or sanctuary to go to the lengths that most of us private guardians and small rescues do. Anyone that gives these guys a chance at life is okay in my book. Giving them the opportunit

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
That was so sweet of you to count the breaths, did you do that for me? It does put my mind at ease a bit, thank you. He's not wheezing, but his purr is off, sort of raspy. I do my absolute best to not worry, worry doesn't solve anything it just causes stress, so much easier said than done th

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Lernermichelle
No, actually, I have never heard of them.  I was talking about The Fund for Dogs and Cats in Pepperell.  I will tell them about NOAH though.  Thanks. Michelle   In a message dated 8/29/2006 10:51:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're talking about NOAH, right? I'

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread felv
Oh yeah, you BET I can! LOL! Try: http://www.vermontjoblink.com/  (the official state run website of the labor dept of job openings) http://jobs.careerbuilder.com/al.ic/Vermont/  (a national job site, the VT category) http://jobsearch.monster.com/jobsearch.asp?q=&cn=&lid=529&fn=&sort=rv&vw=b&c

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
the false-positive rate for the snap test for FIV is much higher than 20%--closer to 40 at a conservative rate. no sanctuary or group that works with FIVs will consider a cat positive without a western blot test.   -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineA

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Evan & Dee
I'd brag too! Sounds heavenly. Can you recommend any sites for job and house searching? We feel very out of sync with our area - very little compassion for animal rights and only the privileged two leggers! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also VERY confident that Vermont will be the first s

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread Precious Pets, Almost Home
Dear Belinda: I personally do not think your letter was rude in anyway! You were sharing information that you knew. This individual obviously has some issues! I would encourage you to continue educating those individuals that are trying to help rehome cats that are inexperience at it. If these

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread felv
I'm also VERY confident that Vermont will be the first state in the USA to ban Ear Cropping on dogs. This is a HUGE measure, because once we get Ear Crops banned, it's only a matter of time until we get DECLAWING on CATS banned! We're pounding away at our animal cruelty laws every session, tr

Re:I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-29 Thread Lance
Karen, You and Angel will be in my prayers tonight. Lance Well, Angel's "hip" problem turned out to not be her hip. The vet felt a big, swollen bump near her bottom and tail. He took a syringe and drained out a bunch of white colored stuff. He looked at it under the microscope and thin

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread felv
I was also thrilled to stumble across this tidbit: Maine passed legislation in March of this year allowing animals to be included in protection orders in domestic violence cases.  It seems that many men who abuse wives or girlfriends threaten or harm their animals to coerce or control the wo

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread felv
On a side note, Linda worked VERY hard to save a Persian she took on from me over a year ago (Seagull), and they didn't give up on him easily, but his heart was just too far gone from Cardiomyopathy. You have to understand, for a shelter, even giving a cat a WEEK of forcefeeding is VERY gener

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Evan & Dee
Thanks Diane. I have managed a bit of surfing since my post and can share the following: On June 29, 2006, the governor passed S.B. 660, adopting the Pennsylvania Uniform Trusts Act, including 20 Pa. C.S. Section 7738 (reproduced below), based upon UTC §408, effective on October 27, 2006.  (Ac

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread felv
You're talking about NOAH, right? I've worked with Linda from NOAH in person here in Vermont before (last summer's big bengal/aby raid), and I list her FELV and FIV cats on my website as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is Linda's addy. She's also taken my purebred rescues in the past, as she has good

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread felv
Two of my cats were around 50 as well (when I counted them all last night). I don't think it's THAT abnormal, as these guys are very healthy negative cats. I'd be more concerned with difficulty breathing, if he is wheezing, or laboring at it in any way. I don't think the speed alone is that m

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Lernermichelle
I wrote that the Elisa FIV test is wrong 80% of the time, but meant 20%.  I seem to have transposed the percentages.    I have learned a lot from the mistakes I made with positives early on, but most of my mistakes resulted in death (the foster I wrote about, and heavy stress from confineme

Re: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread felv
I think it's perfect, mind if I borrow it for my own use? Phaewryn   Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resour

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - (the tick disease link)

2006-08-29 Thread felv
http://www.vet.uga.edu/vpp/clerk/Dailey/index.htm    Phaewryn   Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources:

Re: Fw: [HANDICATS2] SEEKING: FELV+ Maine Coon (or copycat) in NEarea, or CO.

2006-08-29 Thread felv
I was so happy when I heard BuddyBoy got in there (Best Friends), you guys may remember, he was my "highlighted special needs shelter cat" on my webpage for a while, after Jupiter. Phaewryn   Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter

Re: Dilated left eye

2006-08-29 Thread felv
LOL Roxane, Now that's determination on his part. I can just hear him: "I'm NOT going to lick myself, and YOU can't make me! So THERE!" Phaewryn   Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assista

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread felv
Allergies can cause head shaking. Have you changed ANYTHING recently? Food? Treats? Litter? Detergent? ANYTHING in your home? Phaewryn   Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for ca

RE: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I'm not a lawyer, but am a legal secretary who has done a bunch of trust and estate work, and even though I can't give legal advice I can at least provide a little info. Are you considering a trust? Where I work, it's rare for people to have a Will without a trust, but then, these are rich people

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Gloria Lane
Hi Evan and Dee, That's a good question. I need to modify my "plans" too. I'm associated with a rescue group, and that makes me feel better about the care of my babies in the event of my death, because they'll make every effort to help. And, an additional option is to leave life insura

Re: Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Marylyn
Believe it or not there are lawyers who deal with this type of situation. Expect to pay a bit more because it is not the standard form type will. If your lawyer doesn't "understand" find another one. Also make provisions for any one who challenges the will. That has happened. I have a will t

Off Topic - wills and trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Evan & Dee
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but would greatly appreciate any advice folks have to offer. We are meeting with our attorney tomorrow to draw up wills (long overdue) and are stumped as to how to provide for our four legged family members in the event we both pass at the same time. We really d

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Belinda I don't think that you were rude at all.Maybe they just don't like to be told the facts!! You did the right thing. SherryBelinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:     Hi All,   Every once in a while I get people who post to the Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP and put free for the fee, it clearly say's at

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Thanks Tonya, I think he's okay from eating the litter.  It was just another thing to worry me and the one thing I wasn't doing anything about.  The vet had suggested an ultra sound to check, but I've been spending so much money (I don't have) the last couple of weeks on animal related stuff th

my list of places to post FIV/FeLV cats

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
PLEASE ADD ANY OTHERS!  www.adopt.bemikitties.com http://www.marleyfund.com/add_fiv.aspxhttp://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/photopost/index.php  (for purebreds and lookalikes)  these two i just found--don't have any experience with them http://www.specialneedspets.com/ http://www.petswithdisabilities

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
i don't think it's rude at all.   am thinking, tho, that some shelters DO let special-needs cats go for no fee, but that's AFTER they pass their adoption/application process. in those cases, it's to make room for more easily adoptable cats, while doing their best to make sure the cat gets a good ho

Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge

2006-08-29 Thread catatonya
Thank you Nina.  We're pulling for Spencer here.   tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tonya,I'm sorry about Popeye and that horrible woman that gave you so much grief on top of losing him. I hope by now you are coping better. Hugs to you sweetie, hang in there,Nina

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread catatonya
Nina,   First of all I really doubt this has anything to do with the clumping litter.  Did you not know Spencer was positive?  I would treat with doxy just in case of hemobart and maybe try immunoregulin.  Hang in there. tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been ab

Re: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-29 Thread catatonya
Karen, I'm so sorry.    tonyakandbz_ mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Well, Angel's "hip" problem turned out to not be her hip.  The vet felt a big, swollen bump near her bottom and tail.  He took a syringe and drained out a bunch of white colored stuff. He looked at it under the microscope and

OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread Belinda
    Hi All,    Every once in a while I get people who post to the Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP and put free for the fee, it clearly say's at the TOP of the page this is not allowed, so I send them a drafted letter which I'm copying below with the reply I got from the person I sent it to.  Please tell

Re: Hip problems?

2006-08-29 Thread catatonya
Sometimes a cat can have a blood clot that causes paralysis in the legs...   tkandbz_ mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know if hip problems are associated with FeLV?  Angel went to bed just fine and got up in the morning almost unable to walk. It's as if her legs are coming out fro

Re: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-29 Thread Marissa Johnson
Karen, I'm so sorry to hear that your sweet baby is not doing well.  You are in my thoughts and prayers...especially as you make decisions in the near future.  Angel knows how much you love her and she is lucky to have such a great mom!!!   Hang in there!   MJBarb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: To Gina: Re: OT: Re: Question #3: Supplements

2006-08-29 Thread Marissa Johnson
I feed Slinky Innova Evo wet and dry too.  It took me a while to get him really interested in the canned, and I did have to take away the dry when I gave it to him.  Then I just went away for a few days and had to leave the dry in an automatic feeder and have my coworker who was coming to take care

Re: Dilated left eye

2006-08-29 Thread Roxane Baldwin
Thanks Nina, I'll try the warm wash cloth.  His coat needs it!   RoxaneNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When my Grace's eye's were unevenly dilated I panicked.  Many people told me, (including a trusted vet), that it is something that occurs in felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any problems

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
The damn "what ifs" will make you crazy if you let them, we all suffer from them.  All we can do is learn the best and most we can from all our experiences, good and bad.  Two things you can be sure of, Patches was better off having found your loving care and he is no longer suffering.  Even ar

RE: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
We are okay.  Life goes on, although we still spend a little time second-guessing what happened to Patches.  I saw a post on, I think, another list about a disease that's caused by ticks, and the symptoms are the cat gets lethargic and very hot, which describe a couple of his symptoms, and s

Re: Inky update - Belinda

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Belinda, I was just going to write to you for an update about Fred.  I'm glad he seems to be doing better and is accepting his subqs a little more gracefully. Head bumps to Fred and Inky, Nina Belinda wrote:     Kerry,    What are Inky's BUN and creatinine values, these are the two main on

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Thanks Diane.  How are you and Gail doing? Nina Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: For what it's worth, our vet had Patches on Clav and also...I want to say Orbax?...overlapping.  He was on the Orbax first, then while that course was still running, the Clav.   Diane R.

Re: Question #2: Grooming

2006-08-29 Thread Belinda
Nope, just furkids and hubby :) gee, belinda, do you sleep with yours on the bed next to you, too? probably not, you have a human companion! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitti

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
I'll check with my vet's office and ask them if they are using Antech.  Thanks guys, Nina TenHouseCats wrote: i am personally not terribly thrilled with antech, either, as they keep INSISTING that they have a reliable FIP test, which no one else accepts   baytril has definite side e

Re: Inky update

2006-08-29 Thread Belinda
    Kerry,    What are Inky's BUN and creatinine values, these are the two main ones associated with Kidney problems" Fred gets daily fluids now, 100MLs a day, I have to bribe him with chicken or tuna.  His creatinine went from 2.6 to 4.2 in three weeks, his BUN actually got a little better fr

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
"Clavamox itself is a combination of 2 antibiotics." I knew that! See what a mean about my mind going? I'm going to do the retest on both felv and fiv. I had always suspected he had fiv. I usually test when they're neutered, with Spence, the vet forgot to test and I hadn't brought him bac

Re: Fw: [HANDICATS2] SEEKING: FELV+ Maine Coon (or copycat) in NE area, or CO.

2006-08-29 Thread Susan Hoffman
I urge everyone looking for a special needs cat to check the cats listed at http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi and everyone with a special needs foster to list there.  This site provides a wonderful free nationwide listing service for FIV, FeLV and other speci

Re: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-29 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Karen, sending GLOW to you and Angel for calm and strength and peace so you are able to help Angel appropriately, whatever route that is.kandbz_ mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Well, Angel's "hip" problem turned out to not be her hip.  The vet felt a big, swollen bump near her bottom and tail.

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
i am personally not terribly thrilled with antech, either, as they keep INSISTING that they have a reliable FIP test, which no one else accepts   baytril has definite side effects in young cats--don't have the technical language at paw, but it basically can stunt their growth. it's stated clear

Re: Fw: [HANDICATS2] SEEKING: FELV+ Maine Coon (or copycat) in NE area, or CO.

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
On 8/29/06, Patricia Lamoretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BuddyBoy, who is double positive (FeLV and FIV), was relocated to Best Friends in Kanab, Utah, from NY in February.  Some may say Best Friends is a great place but it's not a "real" home and if a space opens up in their leuk house, they ca

RE: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
My vet recently told me that they (I guess vet association) is reviewing the protocol of dosage of using baytrill (it sounded like there were some side effect issues..) so I am a bit cautious using batyrill anyway..   Also, if the test was ran by antech, I would recommend that you run wes

Re: How did Slinky do?

2006-08-29 Thread Marissa Johnson
Thanks, Wendy!  I got home last night, and he did in fact do fantastic!!   He ate just fine, he played with my coworker a lot, and he didn't get sick or anything.   When I first walked in the door, I told him I was home and then i heard this big "clunk.,"  He had knocked a picture frame off the

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Lernermichelle
I actually meant the FIV test, not the FeLV test. I think FIV tests are wrong 80% of the time on ELISA. Not that it matters all that much if he is FeLV+.   Clavamox itself is a combination of 2 antibiotics.  I myself have given Dox with a half dose of  Baytril combo for a week to get rid of

RE: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
For what it's worth, our vet had Patches on Clav and also...I want to say Orbax?...overlapping.  He was on the Orbax first, then while that course was still running, the Clav.   Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:27

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
They did run the felv twice, both times of course on ELISA.  When I bring him in for another cbc, I'll have them retest using IFA.  I'm not sure when I should be thinking of bringing him back in.  The vet wants to do another test, but she didn't give me a specific time frame, (she wants to chec

Re: Dilated left eye

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
When my Grace's eye's were unevenly dilated I panicked.  Many people told me, (including a trusted vet), that it is something that occurs in felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any problems.  Knocking himself silly is another story though.  I'd be very interested to hear what else you come u

Re: IFA kittens, retest at 6 mo & 1 yr? Or is IFA positive final?

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
interestingly enough, after i'd written my questions about the questions, i came across this, from  ZEN AND THE ART OF CAT MAINTENANCE I & II C 2004 BY ALICE M. WOLF, DVM, DACVIM, ABVP (FELINE PRACTICE)DEPARTMENT OF SMALL ANIMAL MED/SURG, TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY   "FeLV PCR - there is no benefit to t

Re: Dilated left eye

2006-08-29 Thread Roxane Baldwin
I'll check that this afternoon when I get home.  I was afraid the way he runs around, he hit his head and knocked himself silly.  This is the first cat I've ever cared for that doesn't clean himself at all.  I've even put water on him trying to get him to clean and he just lets himself air dry.

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread Lernermichelle
Nina, Patches, who is FeLV+, tested positive for FIV also on the in-house test when last tested. At the shelter, she had tested negative for FIV, I think.  Unless you got IFA done, it might not be true. Michelle   In a message dated 8/29/2006 9:45:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTEC

Head shake symptom - Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Another of Spencer's symptoms I failed to mention is head shaking. He's not doing it a lot, just enough for me to notice. I usually think ear mites when I see someone shake their head. Spence's ears are clean. The vet thought possibly something neurological, (she's so upbeat). Do you guys

Re: IFA kittens, retest at 6 mo & 1 yr? Or is IFA positive final?

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Hi guys, I'm not thinking clearly these days, (I used to think it was a temporary problem, alas, now I'm afraid it is a permanent condition).  I remembered getting an email about PCR and testing methods from a researcher...  Here's the paste: This is Kate who used to work at VMSG. I stopped b

Re: Smokey is Coughing

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Hi Dee, I did a quick Google and found the following site that talks about what's "normal" for cats. http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/diseasesconditionsfaqs/tp/TP_catfacts.htm It says the respiratory rate should be 16-40 breaths per minute. That's a pretty wide range. If he's just had one of

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
We're putting him on the feline interferon tomorrow, (it should be here in the morning). We're going with a 5mu dose, (he's 13lbs), 1x day for 5 days then 5 more days on the 14th day and then again on the 60th day. The vet suspects Hemobart. He's not eating very much, so of course that has me

Re: Please send good vibes to Lucy

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Arrggh.  From personal experience with IBD symptoms I know how frustrating it can be.  I wonder if it was the couple of crunchies of EVO.  That would be enough for Gypsy.  I keep trying to offer her something other than her turkey mush foolishly hoping that some day she might be able to eat lik

Re: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-29 Thread Nina
Oh Karen how awful! Did the vet give you something for the pain? I'm sorry that I haven't been keeping up with the list, but this last post of your's is just heartbreaking. No being should have to go through this, but you're right a 5 mos old baby having to endure it is so very hard to bear.

Re: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-29 Thread ETrent
Oh Karen.  I am so sorry.  Love and prayers for you and Angel.   elizabeth   In a message dated 8/28/2006 6:45:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, Angel's "hip" problem turned out to not be her hip.  The vet felt a big, swollen bump near her bottom and tail.