Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-28 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 3/27/06 12:17:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PLEASE...Some specific eye witness examples that other can visit and bring attention to the localsheriff will do .What are they testing for What treatment are they doing that is so badcompar

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:49 pm Subject: Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > I guess one of my problems with animal reasearch (aside from the > obvious) has to do with the under-lying assumption that humans are > somehow "superior&quo

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread jenmeyer
t know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George - Original Message ----- From: Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, March 27, 2006 12:17 pm Subject: Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research? To: felvtalk@feli

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread PEC2851
Tad~ I have the utmost respect for you, I really do.  I also think you are a very caring, compassionate person, and have done so much for Felv's that were facing a certain death   HOWEVER, on this issue I must say, IMO, you are NOT very informed on exactly what goes on in research labs...

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread TenHouseCats
here's the link to the local group working on this issue: http://members.aol.com/Justice4them/   they're the one with the history and the most updated info; the shelter staff can't do anything   MC -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread Linda Johnson
When I went to Michigan State I saw some beagles that were kept for research and they were NOT treated well. While they may not have technically been "abused" they were subjected to cruel experimentation/operations/blood work, et cetera and were kept in small cages in windowless rooms. Even the b

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread Tad Burnett
The fact of the matter is they will get animals some where any way... Now, most of them come from back yard breeders that breed animals for just that market Perhaps if more shelters sold to research the animals that they are going to PTS that would put some of the back yard breeders out of

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread TenHouseCats
i do NOT admit to be totally up-to-date on this   i have to agree that not ALL research is inherently bad. however, in this case, there's a BUSINESS arrangement between the shelter and one Class B Dealer--as far as i know, the shelter couldn't care less where the animals end up, they just sell

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread Tad Burnett
PLEASE...Some specific eye witness examples that other can visit and bring attention to the local sheriff will do . What are they testing for What treatment are they doing that is so bad compared to being kept in a small cage with no outside windows for years...(many no kill shelters) T

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread gblane
I hear what you're saying, but it's just not true. There's more to research on animals than drawing blood occasionally. Good grief. Gloria At 10:36 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote: Why do people think research is synominus with torture... >From Hollywood science fiction movies... With the scrutiny

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread Tad Burnett
Why do people think research is synominus with torture... >From Hollywood science fiction movies... With the scrutiny that research places are under today I guarantee you that most animals in a research place are much happier than those in no kill shelters... Think for a minute about Angel Wing

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-27 Thread PEC2851
After getting frantic "pleas" for animals In Ingham County, Mi. several years ago, I learned "all about" this policy that many shelters in Michigan have regarding selling animals to research facilities IT MAKES ME SICK!!! They claim they do it for revenue, to keep operating.  A "necess

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-26 Thread gblane
ch 26, 2006 4:15 PM To: <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research? oh, darling, we in michigan are VERY well aware of this -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-26 Thread TenHouseCats
, March 26, 2006 4:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?   oh, darling, we in michigan are VERY well aware of this -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCat

RE: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-26 Thread Chris
, March 26, 2006 4:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?   oh, darling, we in michigan are VERY well aware of this -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-26 Thread TenHouseCats
oh, darling, we in michigan are VERY well aware of this-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?

2006-03-26 Thread Chris
This was posted on one of my Katrina boards—I went to the Website and they do say in their section on euthanization that for a small fee, they will NOT sell the animal for research!  I know they are not the only animal control facility that does this but for folks in MI, a heads up! http: