RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-16 Thread Karolyn Lount
God Bless You for saving the dogs you could. Something a lot of people do not know is that when several stray dogs get together they become a Pack and often revert to behaving like a Pack of Wild Dogs and do become very dangerous. The ones that do join a pack as an adult can be fine as a pet when

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-15 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
to these days). More power to you. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals I'm sorry; one more thing that occurs to me that might help

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
leukemia.org *Subject:* Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Tonya, I can't believe you would advocate killing ferals as a way to help their plight! Yes, their life is dangerous and they do sometimes suffer, but that doesn't mean they should be put to death. We humans are so conditioned to our rel

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-15 Thread tamara stickler
hat I will be re-united with her very very soon, you guys! Thank you very much, Hideyo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:08 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-15 Thread catatonya
in its old age. PETA will not be getting $$$ from me. Kerry -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nina *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2005 11:59 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Tonya, I can't believ

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2005-03-14 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message I agree with Nina. I think it'sconflicting and difficult enough to make a decision to euthanize when an animal is terminally ill and suffering---one is torn between desperately not wanting the animal in our care to suffer any more, and making this momentous and irreversible

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread tamara stickler
Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate: I have been active in the animal rescue field for most of my life. I have walked into alleyways in crack neighborhoods, by myself, to feed ferals and do rescues. I have spent more money than any "sane" person should on strays, and even have driven across

Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Nina
, March 14, 2005 11:59 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Tonya, I can't believe you would advocate killing ferals as a way to help their plight! Yes, their life is dangerous and they do sometimes suffer, but that doesn't mean

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
list--do. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate: I have been active in

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2005-03-14 Thread tamara stickler
Cherie, You are ABSOLUTELY right...I believe as you do that animals are as precious as children, but unfortunately in this society...there exists the "destory if they are inconvienant" rule for bothFor humans, -children: (in the forms of abortion and the juvenial death penalty), the later of

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
! Thank you! Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Tonya, I can't believe you would advocate killing ferals as a way to help

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:43 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals I have to definitely agree with Nina. We, humans are the most powerful creature on earth, and can be the most egotistical and arrogant one, too by abusing

Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread tamara stickler
] *On Behalf Of *Nina *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2005 11:59 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Tonya, I can't believe you would advocate killing ferals as a way to help their plight! Yes, their life is dangerous and they do sometimes suffer, but that doesn't me

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread tamara stickler
--Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:43 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals I have to definitely agree with Nina. We, humans are the most powerful creature on eart

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
: RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate: I have been active in the animal rescue field for most of my life. I have walked into alleyways in crack neighborhoods, by myself, to feed ferals and do rescues. I have spent more money than any sane person should

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Subject: RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals God bless ya Hideyo...I'll keep you both in my prayers! (Tip: Squeekie might be extremely cautious of closed in spaces and be very hard to trap now. Try, if you can, a small dog crate...pref. black bars...put grass or leaves or debris of some

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread catatonya
Thank you Tamara, I know everyone won't agree on this. I've worked with ferals, and I've done spay releases, and I've seen situations that were so bad nothing else could be done I fed a PACK of nearly 20feral dogs for 2 years, trying to make some progress. These dogs were so wild they would

RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
I am not going to get too involved in this discussion, but my two cents are, I have to agree with Nina and Kerry. Some places CAN be worse than death for animals or children, do you see us killing children The two groups we (as adults) need to stand up for and care for are children and

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2005-03-14 Thread Lernermichelle
Drawing the line and deciding not to get involved is one thing. Drawing the line and deciding to kill them all is quite another. In my paid work, I am a lawyer who represents desperately poor women and children in things like denials of access to emergency shelter, food stamps, and

Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Nina
14, 2005 2:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Tonya - killing ferals God bless ya Hideyo...I'll keep you both in my prayers! (Tip: Squeekie might be extremely cautious of closed in spaces and be very hard to trap now. Try, if you can, a small dog crate...pref. black

Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Nina
: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Tonya, I can't believe you would advocate killing ferals as a way to help their plight! Yes, their life is dangerous and they do sometimes suffer, but that doesn't mean they should be put to death. We humans are so conditioned

Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals

2005-03-14 Thread Nina
-Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nina *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2005 11:59 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: OT:Tonya - killing ferals Tonya, I can't believe you would advocate