Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 9/6/2020 12:33 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Or in other words: We will certainly not change our definition of "interlaced video" - many people seem to understand it. Sounds rather strong ("certainly not"), but those of us coming from the NTSC analog world all understood the concept of

[FFmpeg-user] I can't copy or embed a picture to an output audio (A-A conversion)

2020-09-06 Thread Ilja
Hello, Reading the manual I tried to execute the following variants of the command to either copy the picture from the input or add it to the output. ffprobe returned the following info about the input file: ffprobe -hide_banner -show_streams /Users/home/Music/iTunes/iTunes\

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 05:24 PM, Edward Park wrote: I have great respect for you, Ted. Tell me: What is interlaced video? Well that is unwarranted, possibly spiteful, even, to someone as insecure as me ;) Hahahaha... Ted I want you to do something for me. Take your right hand, put it over your

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Edward Park
> I have great respect for you, Ted. Tell me: What is interlaced video? Well that is unwarranted, possibly spiteful, even, to someone as insecure as me ;) That is the real question isn't it. Probably won't be very satisfying but I'll try to describe it. Probably not useful to say it's video

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 04:16 PM, Edward Park wrote: Hi, In the case of "interlace": "It's interlaced video" -- video in which the lines alternate (i.e. are interlaced) between two (or theoretically, more) fields (e.g. odd-even-odd-even...). That employs the past participle of the verb, "interlace",

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 03:33 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 21:27 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak : All of the ffmpeg documentation that uses the word "interlaced" should be checked for accuracy. Since real-world users are using this documentation it should only be carefully changed.

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 21:27 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak : > All of the ffmpeg documentation that uses the word "interlaced" > should be checked for accuracy. Since real-world users are using this documentation it should only be carefully changed. Or in other words: We will certainly not change

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 04:16 PM, Edward Park wrote: Hi, In the case of "interlace": "It's interlaced video" -- video in which the lines alternate (i.e. are interlaced) between two (or theoretically, more) fields (e.g. odd-even-odd-even...). That employs the past participle of the verb, "interlace",

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Edward Park
Hi, > In the case of "interlace": > "It's interlaced video" -- video in which the lines alternate (i.e. are > interlaced) between two (or theoretically, more) fields (e.g. > odd-even-odd-even...). That employs the past participle of the verb, > "interlace", as an adjective to modify "video". >

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Question about macroblocks in soft telecined video

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 03:31 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 19:07 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak First, Carl Eugen, could you fix your email client so that it doesn't echo people's email addresses in the clear? -snip- So-called "progressive" video -- I prefer "concurrent" -- is

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 03:32 PM, Bouke wrote: On 06 Sep 2020, at 21:26, Mark Filipak wrote: Conclusion: Employing the past participle, "interlaced", to a field-based video stream is just plain wrong. Can you just shut up / stop spreading nonsense? How is it nonsense? The present participle,

Re: [FFmpeg-user] ? About ffmpeg's prores implemention

2020-09-06 Thread Edward Park
Hi, >> I'm not sure what you are referring to, what's there to spread fud about?? > > Closely read your text that you removed out. You're reading into it too much if it provoked fear or uncertainty in your mind, wasn't my intention. >> What is, AME or one of the prores encoders included in

Re: [FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Bouke
> On 06 Sep 2020, at 21:26, Mark Filipak > wrote: > > > Conclusion: Employing the past participle, "interlaced", to a field-based > video stream is just plain wrong. Can you just shut up / stop spreading nonsense? Bouke Edit ‘B / VideoToolShed.com van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33 6512 AS

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Question about macroblocks in soft telecined video

2020-09-06 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 19:07 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak : > > (Apart from the fact that telecined content does not necessarily Sorry for the typo here, this should have said "soft telecined". > > have a framerate of 24000/1001, ... > > That's an ad homonym attack. lol > I didn't say

[FFmpeg-user] "interlace"

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
Admittedly, this is an anal-compulsive topic. But good documentation often requires anal compulsion. Good documentation definitely requires thorough knowledge of language usage. The topic is use of the various forms of the word "interlace". But I'm going to use the word "build" as an example

Re: [FFmpeg-user] newbie in trouble [SOLVED]

2020-09-06 Thread Dave Stevens
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 00:06:08 +0100 Kieran O Leary wrote: > Hi, > > How about: > ffmpeg -framerate 30 -start_number 2 -i > /home/dave/Documents/Smokecam/2days\ > ofoutdoorcapturesDecember112016/smokey%04d.jpg -c:v libx264 -pix_fmt > yuv420p out.mp4 > > I don't think you need to use -r or John's

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Ghostly audio stream.

2020-09-06 Thread Edward Park
Hi, Is there a file with the same name or similar (with "-2" appended or something) in the same dir? Maybe you confused which is which? As for how to prevent, currently the default is to not load external audio files so updating ffmpeg and mpv might be an option. Regards, Ted Park

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Question about macroblocks in soft telecined video

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 12:07 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 09:28 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak : [...] Soft telecined video is actually 23/1.001 frames per second of video even though the metadata tells the decoder to produce 30/1.001 FPS. On the FFmpeg user mailing list, "decoder"

[FFmpeg-user] Ghostly audio stream.

2020-09-06 Thread David Niklas
Hi guys, I was having a problem with a ghost audio stream making it into the video I was editing. I'm interesting is learning how it got their, and more importantly, how to avoid this in the future. % ffmpeg -version Trailing options were found on the commandline. ffmpeg version 3.2.15-0+deb9u1

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Question about macroblocks in soft telecined video

2020-09-06 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 09:28 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak : [...] > Soft telecined video is actually 23/1.001 frames per second of video > even though the metadata tells the decoder to produce 30/1.001 FPS. On the FFmpeg user mailing list, "decoder" and "metadata" have relatively strict meanings.

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Question about macroblocks in soft telecined video

2020-09-06 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2020 02:26 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 06:20 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak : I would guess that, for an undecoded video that's soft telecined (i.e. @24/1.001 FPS), the interlace in the macroblocks is field-based (i.e. the same as if @30/1.001 FPS), not

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Question about macroblocks in soft telecined video

2020-09-06 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Am So., 6. Sept. 2020 um 06:20 Uhr schrieb Mark Filipak : > I would guess that, for an undecoded video that's soft telecined (i.e. > @24/1.001 FPS), > the interlace in the macroblocks is field-based (i.e. the same as if > @30/1.001 FPS), > not frame-based (i.e. the same as if @24 FPS). This