Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Roman
2016-02-04 14:49 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > Am 04.02.2016 um 13:45 schrieb Roman: > >> that below is the perfect example how shitty your mailing style is >>> nobody is any longer able to guess who said what in what context >>> >>> I understand your frustration, but

[FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Roman
Hi, I've seen many times people asking/forcing not to top-post to the list... So here I've got a question.. Why ? Most of programs, including gmail app and gmail web come with top posting by default and this is the way all people are used to read mail. Why the hell one should scroll down to see

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Roman
> OMFG! Let me log into the web interface and show you how it is done. So you just offer me to insert ">" symbol before every line I quote or just copy the whole e-mail I'm answering to? 2016-02-04 13:40 GMT+02:00 James Darnley : > On 2016-02-04 12:30, Roman wrote:

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Phil Rhodes
Most of the time, it doesn't cause serious problems with readability and may encourage people to contribute usefully if they're posting on, say, a cellphone, or in a hurry. It's an "open source thing". The only place you commonly find people complaining about it is on lists just like this one,

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Roman: When you read reviews (academical, amateur, professional), there are no quotes and below-postings. Review author just mentions what exactly hes referring to and continues his review. And same goes to review on review. Please see academical reviews as an

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Nicholas Robbins
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Roman wrote: > > > OMFG! Let me log into the web interface and show you how it is done. > > So you just offer me to insert ">" symbol before every line I quote or just > copy the whole e-mail I'm answering to? This was also done from gmail's

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Phil Rhodes: Most of the time, it doesn't cause serious problems with readability and may encourage people to contribute usefully if they're posting on, say, a cellphone, or in a hurry. It's an "open source thing". The only place you commonly find people

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Roman
No. I expect you to use the "features" of the "client" you use. Clicking on the ellipsis in the box (those three dots in a grey rectangle) with the tooltip "Show trimmed content" you will suddenly see everything you are quoting. You can then cut it up from there. Here is what is happened, when

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Roman: Thanks for an answer. I see, but still not share such approach while sending/receiving e-mails. It was not very comfortable for me to follow your e-mail with such quotes does your mail client not visualize quotes? get a better one - see attachment

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread James Darnley
On 2016-02-04 12:44, Roman wrote: >> OMFG! Let me log into the web interface and show you how it is done. > > So you just offer me to insert ">" symbol before every line I quote or just > copy the whole e-mail I'm answering to? No. I expect you to use the "features" of the "client" you use.

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread James Darnley
On 2016-02-04 12:30, Roman wrote: > why should *we* suck your quoting style? > > you should not. just don't reply, if you don't like the style. To try > to convince every one to change their habits due to minority being upset. I > think, such approach will make everyone happy. > > why should

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Roman
Damn, you guys just made my eyes bleeding again. I use gmail, so when I copy the visualized quote, It ends up with: does your mail client not visualize quotes? get a better one - see attachment Seems like doesn't. Or it actually does, when I will send it? Let's see.. Why should I keep to some

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
that below is the perfect example how shitty your mailing style is nobody is any longer able to guess who said what in what context Am 04.02.2016 um 13:24 schrieb Roman: No. I expect you to use the "features" of the "client" you use. Clicking on the ellipsis in the box (those three dots in a

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread juan carlos Rebate
and I'm the rude when your are insulting 2016-02-04 22:06 GMT+01:00 Jannes Faber : > On 4 Feb 2016 9:56 p.m., "juan carlos Rebate" wrote: >> >> gmail.com does not include options to write at the bottom > > Click the fking three little dots! >

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 21:56 schrieb juan carlos Rebate: gmail.com does not include options to write at the bottom READ THIS WHOLE FUCKING THREAD AND STOP PRETEND THAT! you are even too lazy/stupid to remove the list footer from your reply Am 04.02.2016 um 21:37 schrieb juan carlos Rebate: I

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue - OFF TOPIC

2016-02-04 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:56 PM, juan carlos Rebate wrote: > gmail.com does not include options to write at the bottom, Mine does. Click the little rectangle with three dots on it. Then you can reply "inline", like I am doing right now. -m

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Jannes Faber
On 4 Feb 2016 9:56 p.m., "juan carlos Rebate" wrote: > > gmail.com does not include options to write at the bottom Click the fking three little dots! ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Phil Rhodes
> no, you are a fool telling others "Ignore complaints about it.  Please stop insulting me. I haven't insulted you. Your presumptiveness is breathtaking. > "background noise" comes from the list-owners / developers That's funny, when I've asked in the past, I have been told that nobody is in

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Charles Winthrop
I work with open source software daily. And I have NEVER seen more in-fighting going on with a single piece of it until ffmpeg. Not just this list. I've tried forums, live chats, and even stackexchange. Nobody dealing with ffmpeg, these so-called "experts" ever answer any questions, they just

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 14:40 schrieb Charles Winthrop: Well, this has decided me. Dump ffmpeg and find an actual solution. have fun, here ffmpeg works for nearly a decade fine Everyone her would rather whine about writing style than actually solve a problem. Really professsional, folks! WTF -

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 15:06 schrieb Phil Rhodes: top-posting is considered rude on this list By who? why do you strip quotes out of context and play the unknown while you are long enough trolling on this list: https://www.google.com/search?q=top-posting+here+is+considered+as+rude

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
? Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff: Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue Datum: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:40:02 -0500 Von: Charles Winthrop <char...@nts-show.com> Antwort an: FFmpeg user questions <ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> An: FFmpeg user questions <ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> Well, this ha

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Roman
Phil Turmel, Jason C Hi guys and thanks for your time, but it now seems like we see disadvantages of quoted answers or laziness of yours to read the whole 28 mails and see the fact, that I was not tried to say something really bad to this type of style. Thanks to Reindl Harald's patience which

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread juan carlos Rebate
if you think it's a waste of time does not respond, the sociedd progresses, the services must engage the advance, the service is so and we must tolerate, no one should tell anyone how they should do things. 2016-02-04 19:31 GMT+01:00 Jannes Faber : > On 4 February 2016 at

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread juan carlos Rebate
I agree, I'm used to answer as well, plus it's easier to read responses, this innconveniente ignore me on the list, besides the html is the evolution, why so afraid? 2016-02-04 11:27 GMT+01:00 Nicolas George : > Le sextidi 16 pluviôse, an CCXXIV, Roman a écrit : >> I've seen many

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Phil Rhodes
I think the fact that this is by far the most hotly-debated topic in a long time speaks volumes. P ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 14:40 schrieb Phil Rhodes: no, you are a fool telling others "Ignore complaints about it. Please stop insulting me. I haven't insulted you. Your presumptiveness is breathtaking when you recommend ignoring the list-rules your are either a fool or a troll "background

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Phil Rhodes
> Everyone her would rather whine about writing style than actually solve > a >problem. Really professsional, folks! Welcome to open source software... ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Phil Rhodes
> top-posting is considered rude on this list By who? And at this point, the idea of your accusing anyone else of impoliteness is hilarious. P ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Phil Turmel
Hi Roman, On 02/04/2016 04:46 AM, Roman wrote: > Hi, > > > I've seen many times people asking/forcing not to top-post to the list... > So here I've got a question.. Why ? Long-time lurker here, infrequent poster, so take this as an outsider's view: People who *ask* questions on mailing lists

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Jason C
On Feb 4, 2016 4:46 AM, "Roman" wrote: > > Hi, > > > I've seen many times people asking/forcing not to top-post to the list... > So here I've got a question.. Why ? Most of programs, including gmail app > and gmail web come with top posting by default and this is the way all >

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Charles Winthrop
Honestly it is a non-issue. I thought I was signing up for a technical discussion and support list, not a posting etiquette discussion list. Apparently ffmpeg has no such thing. On February 4, 2016 10:50:43 AM EST, Jason C wrote: >On Feb 4, 2016 4:46 AM, "Roman"

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Steve Boyer
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Roman wrote: > Hi, Hi! > I've seen many times people asking/forcing not to top-post to the list... > So here I've got a question.. Why ? Most of programs, including gmail app > and gmail web come with top posting by default and this is the way

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Jannes Faber
On 4 February 2016 at 17:42, juan carlos Rebate wrote: > I agree To what? Why are you trying to waste my time? Why are you trying to force me to search through the context, by top posting? I'm not going to. So I don't care what you're agreeing to. Which is not my problem.

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 2/4/16, juan carlos Rebate wrote: > if you think it's a waste of time does not respond, the sociedd > progresses, the services must engage the advance, the service is so > and we must tolerate, no one should tell anyone how they should do > things. You are being rude,

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread juan carlos Rebate
I am not rude, gmail-web does not allow me to publish on the bottom and not use programs that do not like, no one can force me to use something I'm not comfortable 2016-02-04 20:55 GMT+01:00 Paul B Mahol : > On 2/4/16, juan carlos Rebate wrote: >> if you

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2016 um 21:37 schrieb juan carlos Rebate: I am not rude, gmail-web does not allow me to publish on the bottom and not use programs that do not like, no one can force me to use something I'm not comfortable proven in *this thread* you can properly write mail with gmail and if you

Re: [FFmpeg-user] top posting issue

2016-02-04 Thread juan carlos Rebate
gmail.com does not include options to write at the bottom, outlook if you have this option, but this application is payment, evolution does not have that option, thunderbird does not have this option, if you have kmail but does not allow referencing the ancient text 2016-02-04 21:40 GMT+01:00