RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-12-05 Thread Charles Knox
At 03:12 PM 12/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Also, as David mentioned, sometimes the SCSI bus won't recognize the scanner >if it's been shut off and I haven't rebooted the machine. In other words, >turn on sscanner, boot pc, wait until PC is up and running, shut off scanner >and then turn it on again

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-12-04 Thread Wilson, Paul
nd I like the smaller size and quiter operation. Paul Wilson > -Original Message- > From: david/lisa soderman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!! > >

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-12-04 Thread david/lisa soderman
Rob: > What's the consensus amongst other Scan Multi owners as to the scanner as a > whole. > > What are they reporting? Actually, I haven't heard all that much yet. But what I have heard has been all very good. (Stable, user-friendly software, good film holders, small & quiet machine, great sh

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-12-02 Thread Op's
david/lisa soderman wrote: > I've asked several Minolta Scan Multi Pro > owners for actual scan times (as opposed to press releases or the > imaging-resource.com review). David What's the consensus amongst other Scan Multi owners as to the scanner as a whole. What are they reporting? Rob

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-12-02 Thread david/lisa soderman
Bill F. wrote: > So what I'd do is allocate as much RAM as I possibly can to Photoshop > (in your case about 1.2GB of RAM to Photoshop leaving 300MB for the > system and other stuff), then run Photoshop alone (no other apps > running) and with no images open between scans. Thanks for your help, B

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Fernandez
At 12:39 PM -0600 11/28/01, david/lisa soderman wrote: > If there's a >way to effectively allocate more RAM to NikonScan (used as a plugin)...I'd >be happy as a clam. ;-) David-- The way to give NikonScan more memory as Photoshop plug-in is to (1) allocate lots of memory to Photoshop and (2)

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-30 Thread Arthur Entlich
It would make sense that some people would experience worse banding than others if the information I received from several sources is correct. Most scanners use a tri-line CCD sensor chip. In all scanners I know of other than Nikon, this tri-line has filters over each line corresponding to R

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-30 Thread Mikael Risedal
scanner for free ? Mikael Risedal >From: "Paul Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!! >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:24:47 -0800 > > >David, > > &g

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-29 Thread Op's
Paul Graham wrote: > > and then say: > >but so far the banding hasn't been visible > in the normal mode. > > so, in fact the "others" are right, no? banding is getting blown out of > proportion by those who dont own the machine and/or those with vested > interests. If you do come across an unus

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-29 Thread Bob Shomler
>It's ICE/GEM that is slow, not the Nikon. >If you turn off GEM especially the scan times are remarkably good in normal >mode... >I doubt if you compare equals (no ICE in either scan) that you would find >anything quicker in any of the scanners you mention. > >>At 4000 ppi w/ICE, >>8 bit, 1 pass..

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-29 Thread Paul Graham
David, > Then I've done everything I can. The 8000ED is just plain slow > with my Mac. It's ICE/GEM that is slow, not the Nikon. If you turn off GEM especially the scan times are remarkably good in normal mode... I doubt if you compare equals (no ICE in either scan) that you would find anythin

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-29 Thread david/lisa soderman
Rob wrote: > Have been looking at the price here on both the SS120 and the LS8000 and now find > there is A$1000 difference. So the choice is becoming clearer. Its do I need ICE > Cubes. But I do like what my LS2000 will do Don't forget about the new Minolta Scan Multi Pro. It also has ICE

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-29 Thread Op's
Thanks David - for the input. Have been looking at the price here on both the SS120 and the LS8000 and now find there is A$1000 difference. So the choice is becoming clearer. Its do I need ICE Cubes. But I do like what my LS2000 will do Rob david soderman wrote: > > If you have not experi

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread david soderman
Mikael wrote: > I wonder if Im missing something's here! The only thing you can do is: > 1.Allocate more RAM memory to Photoshop if you are using NikonScan as a > plugin and have a MAC computer. Give Photoshop at least 800Mb of your 1.5 > Gb RAAM memory Then I've done everything I can. The

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread david soderman
> If you have not experienced banding how do you run the LS8000 ? Is it in the > fine mode? Which makes scanning slow. I've just been running it in the normal (not fine) mode. At 4000 ppi w/ICE, 8 bit, 1 pass...a 6x6 neg takes about 10 minutes. That's on a 400 mhz G4 w/1.5 gigs of RAM.

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread Op's
david/lisa soderman wrote: > > Let me ask why did you buy the Nikon LS8000 if you recognised that it had > > problems with the banding? > > > > I ask - as I was considering both the SS120 and the LS8000. > > ICE was an important factor for me. The new Minolta Scan Multi Pro was not > shipping

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread Mikael Risedal
ur MAC. Mikael Risedal -- >From: "david/lisa soderman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!! >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:39:30 -0600 > > > Let me ask why did y

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread Austin Franklin
> ICE was an important factor for me. I haven't had any dust problems with my scanner, and it doesn't have ICE...but I do make sure my film doesn't have any dust on it before putting it in the scanner. The Nikon, because of its LED illumination tends to exaggerate the dust...so it does need ICE

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread Bill Fernandez
If you turn color management off then you're on your own for adjusting the colors. Now I've been scanning only Kodachromes recently and here's what I did: I turned color management off, went to preferences and set the gamma to match the gamma at which I'm running my screen, then scanned a Ko

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread david/lisa soderman
> Let me ask why did you buy the Nikon LS8000 if you recognised that it had > problems with the banding? > > I ask - as I was considering both the SS120 and the LS8000. ICE was an important factor for me. The new Minolta Scan Multi Pro was not shipping at the time. Others have claimed to *not*

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread david/lisa soderman
> I had similar results with my 4000ED. How to address it depends on > how you have color management set up in the preferences dialog. > > If you have color management ON, then first go into the color > management tab in preferences and make sure that the monitor profile > it shows is the one yo

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-28 Thread Bill Fernandez
I had similar results with my 4000ED. How to address it depends on how you have color management set up in the preferences dialog. If you have color management ON, then first go into the color management tab in preferences and make sure that the monitor profile it shows is the one you're actu

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-27 Thread Op's
david/lisa soderman wrote: > Well, I've just spent two days trying to figure out how to get my 2 week old > Nikon 8000ED to work properly. At this point, I'm just about ready to crate > it up, send it back...and go with the Minolta Scan Multi Pro. Let me ask why did you buy the Nikon LS8000 i

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED nightmares!!!

2001-11-27 Thread Mikael Risedal
If you are using NikonScan 3.1.1 with LS 8000 and MAC. 1. Turn of virtuell memory 2. Allocate at least 600Mb to the software alone. If you using Photoshop plugin, let Photoshop have at least 800Mb memory 3. To allocate more memory = go to Nikonscan folder, select NikonScan with your cursior so

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED w/Macs???

2001-10-25 Thread Mike Duncan
>I use the same software, Nikon Scan 3.1, on my G4 Mac for a Nikon 4000 and >it works just fine. > Ditto on my G3 Mac with OS 9.04 for a Nikon IV ED. Mike Duncan

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED w/Macs???

2001-10-25 Thread Jack Phipps
I use the same software, Nikon Scan 3.1, on my G4 Mac for a Nikon 4000 and it works just fine. Jack Phipps -Original Message- From: david/lisa soderman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED w/Macs???

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-13 Thread Tony Sleep
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:30:31 - Lynn Allen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > OTOH, if you're an Aries, my week has gone sorta like that (last week > more than this week, and the month before was even worse!). Uh-oh - please not here! But as a final nail in this OT coffin, I'll just say that I a

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-13 Thread Lawrence Smith
David, Thank you for your offer to help. it shut off one more time. It's now on it's way back to B&H for a return. I ended up going with the Nikon after kicking the tires on both machines. I found that the marginal (if any) gains in shadow detail were not worth the extra time I had to spend w

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-13 Thread Arthur Entlich
Raphael Bustin wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Lynn Allen wrote: > > > > Someone has angered the Scanner Gods. I think it was Art. ;-) > > Jeez, I thought Art *was* the Scanner God. > > rafe b. Yes, so don't anger me! ;-) Art

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-13 Thread Arthur Entlich
I think you are correct that Minolta will be releasing a new 35mm scanner soon. The Elite is being heavily discounted, and a 4000 dpi version would make sense. Art "Shough, Dean" wrote: I expect (hope?) that > either Polaroid or Minolta will come out with a scanner that does what I > want in

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-13 Thread Arthur Entlich
rafeb wrote: > > But curiously, our man from Polaroid is in ICE-denial, > saying that his (perceived) clientele doesn't value ICE. > > Nor did I, until I had a chance to work with it. > > As I recall, David was in similar denial when some > of us informed him (way, way back) that we'd really

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Hemingway, David J
: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED All, Well, my replacement 8000 just arrived and it's DOA. The mechanism that grads the slide trays is totally dead. Some much for this unit. I'm on hold with tech support even as we speak. The Imacon is looking better and better. My SS120 shut itself off

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Lynn Allen wrote: > > Someone has angered the Scanner Gods. I think it was Art. ;-) Jeez, I thought Art *was* the Scanner God. rafe b.

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Lawrence Smith
LOL . I needed a good laugh! Thanks :-) Lawrence > > Your "karma" is really bad this week, Lawrence. Did you run over > a squirel > and forget to pray for its soul, or what? > > OTOH, if you're an Aries, my week has gone sorta like that (last > week more > than this week, and the mont

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Lawrence Smith
OK... it is working now. I shut it on and off several times and rebooted my computer and suddenly it is feeding the trays. I am scanning an image to see if it will have banding problems... will let you know! Lawrence > > Well, my replacement 8000 just arrived and it's DOA. The mechanism th

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Lynn Allen
isn't Astrology and it isn't the Moon in its many phases, what's left--Magic? Someone has angered the Scanner Gods. I think it was Art. ;-) Best regards, and all meant in good fun--LRA >From: "Lawrence Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Lawrence Smith
All, Well, my replacement 8000 just arrived and it's DOA. The mechanism that grads the slide trays is totally dead. Some much for this unit. I'm on hold with tech support even as we speak. The Imacon is looking better and better. My SS120 shut itself off, my other 8000 had banding problems,

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Hemingway, David J
EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED At 12:50 AM 7/12/01 -0700, Art wrote: >Visible light does not need to be an LED source for dICE to work. Acer >2740 uses a hybrid situation, with an IR LED, but c

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Raphael Bustin
> > Sorry, I should have made it clearer - from what I have read the Nikons > (2000 and 4000) have more noise than the SS4000. Don't believe everything you read or hear. rafe b.

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Shough, Dean
> I would have said the same thing yesterday, but with the cat out of the > bag about Polaroid's finances, there might be more of a fire sale going > on than a clearance. > One can hope - 5080 dpi, ICE^3, and low noise. Let's not forget cheap.

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Shough, Dean
> What about the ls-4000? > > > > > I am waiting for Polaroid (or someone else) to release a 4000+dpi 35 mm > > slide scanner with ICE^3. Looking at the current prices on the > > SS4000 ($950 > > according to CNET) and the $200 rebate currently being offered, I expect > > something soon. > S

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread rafeb
At 12:50 AM 7/12/01 -0700, Art wrote: >Visible light does not need to be an LED source for dICE to work. Acer >2740 uses a hybrid situation, with an IR LED, but cold cathode light >source. Canon FS 4000 has FARE, which is also an infrared defect repair >system and is not, to my knowledge using

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Arthur Entlich
"Shough, Dean" wrote: > > > I'd have bought a Polaroid SS4000 in the blink of an eye if it had the > same functionality. > > > > I am waiting for Polaroid (or someone else) to release a 4000+dpi 35 mm > slide scanner with ICE^3. Looking at the current prices on the SS4000 ($950 > according to

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Arthur Entlich
"Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > > At 07:09 11-07-01 -0400, I wrote: > >It was admittedly difficult for me to be objective because of prior bad > experiences with an LS4000 > >and Nikon technical support. From list feedback it seems that times have > changed for the better to

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-12 Thread Arthur Entlich
rafeb wrote: > > However... there IS a price to pay, and it gets back > to the LEDs vs. cold-cathode lighting issue, I think. > > If I'm not mistaken, ICE requires IR-LED illumination. > The Nikons have this, the Polaroids don't. But it > also seems that shallow depth-of-focus may be a side-

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Hemingway, David J
Off topic :) David -Original Message- From: Gerry Kaslowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED or they file for bankruptcy - Original Message - From: Shough, Dean

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread John Hayward at Hopco
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raphael Bustin > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 6:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Lawrence Smith wrote: >

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Lyons
> BTW, a few times the >> Silverfast software has not recognized my scanner, but then I start up >> Polaroid's software, and then try it with Silverfast's again and it does >> recognize it. Next time it happens I'm going to contact Silverfast with the >> details. (I'm working on a Macintosh G4

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Lawrence Smith
I think so too rafe. I can't really imagine them disappearing. But it does bring a certain amount of uncertainty to the issue. As for the machines, it was really a toss up. They are both great. Lawrence > > In all fairness, I suspect Polaroid will > find some way to continue operations. > M

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Lawrence Smith wrote: > Here's the latest. My SS120 is on it's way back to the vendor for a refund. > I am getting another 8000 tomorrow to try. Hopefully the banding issue will > be solved with this new one. It must be said that I REALLY like the SS120. > I was getting

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Lawrence Smith
Here's the latest. My SS120 is on it's way back to the vendor for a refund. I am getting another 8000 tomorrow to try. Hopefully the banding issue will be solved with this new one. It must be said that I REALLY like the SS120. I was getting superb scans for the most part. I did have a slide th

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Slavitt, Howard
increase contrast? . . . From what I've read, Nikon's LED light source would accentuate grain even more than the SS120, so I guess there's no tradeoff there. Howard. -Original Message- From: Lawrence Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:54 AM

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Shough, Dean wrote: > > I'd have bought a Polaroid SS4000 in the blink of an eye if it had the > same functionality. > > > > I am waiting for Polaroid (or someone else) to release a 4000+dpi 35 mm > slide scanner with ICE^3. Looking at the current prices on the SS4000 ($9

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Gerry Kaslowski
or they file for bankruptcy - Original Message - From: Shough, Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > > I'd have bought a Polaroid SS4000 in the blink of an e

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Lawrence Smith
What about the ls-4000? > I am waiting for Polaroid (or someone else) to release a 4000+dpi 35 mm > slide scanner with ICE^3. Looking at the current prices on the > SS4000 ($950 > according to CNET) and the $200 rebate currently being offered, I expect > something soon.

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Shough, Dean
> I'd have bought a Polaroid SS4000 in the blink of an eye if it had the same functionality. > I am waiting for Polaroid (or someone else) to release a 4000+dpi 35 mm slide scanner with ICE^3. Looking at the current prices on the SS4000 ($950 according to CNET) and the $200 rebate currently bein

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 07:09 11-07-01 -0400, I wrote: >It was admittedly difficult for me to be objective because of prior bad experiences with an LS4000 >and Nikon technical support. From list feedback it seems that times have changed for the better to >some degree. I'd have bought a Polaroid SS4000 in the blin

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread rafeb
At 10:31 PM 7/10/01 -0700, Art wrote: >It sounds to me that this is a heads up to companies like Polaroid and >others that it might well me worthwhile to consider production of at >least one scanner line with D-ICE or equivalent type products with an >infrared channel. "ICE" was a non-issue for

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 22:31 10-07-01 -0700, you wrote: >"Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > > On 10-04-98 I posted the following to this list: > > "Let's not forget the corollary to that expression is "with Nikon you don't > > get what you pay for." By that I mean customer support. I learned that > > u

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-11 Thread Arthur Entlich
"Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > > On 10-04-98 I posted the following to this list: > "Let's not forget the corollary to that expression is "with Nikon you don't > get what you pay for." By that I mean customer support. I learned that > unhappy lesson with my first film scanne

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-10 Thread Julian Robinson
Unfortunately Sir is broke and has no money. He was only enthusiastically supporting the notion of *factual* comparative information of reasonable validity as a means of choosing between scanners. As opposed to trying to do it based on opinion, unverifiable comparisons and manufacturer's clai

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-09 Thread Tony Sleep
On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 12:13:54 +1000 Julian Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > - when you see something in one and can directly try it on the > other,or tweek one to match the other. What's needed is a PC Anywhere/VNC/Carbon Copy remote control of a range of scanners. Then you could do thi

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-09 Thread Dave King
- Original Message - From: Arthur Entlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > > > "Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > > > >I'm musi

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-09 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 15:15 09-07-01 -0700, Arthur Entlich wrote: >"Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > > > >I'm musing whether Nikon has a factory in the "deep south" of the US. > > >I'm noting a very strong allegiance to the company coming from those > > >environs... > > > > Is my residence in the "De

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
"Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > >I'm musing whether Nikon has a factory in the "deep south" of the US. > >I'm noting a very strong allegiance to the company coming from those > >environs... > > Is my residence in the "Deep South" some sort of problem for you? > > I've been i

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-09 Thread rafeb
At 02:04 AM 7/9/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote: >I'm musing whether Nikon has a factory in the "deep south" of the US. >I'm noting a very strong allegiance to the company coming from those >environs... More witty observations from Brother Art, who doesn't even live in the USA. Allegiance based

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-09 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 02:04 09-07-01 -0700, Arthur Entlich wrote: >"Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > > > > >>The SS120 produces superior 35mm scans to the SS4000 and wipes the floor > > >>with the 4000ED. If the 8000 scans anything like the 4000ED then I'm real > > >>sorry for you Nikon users. The SS

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
"Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" wrote: > > >>The SS120 produces superior 35mm scans to the SS4000 and wipes the floor > >>with the 4000ED. If the 8000 scans anything like the 4000ED then I'm real > >>sorry for you Nikon users. The SS120 comes mighty close to Imacon quality > > Comment

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-08 Thread Julian Robinson
> > I dream of someone > > being in a postilion to do the same thing for the 35mm scanners > >Patience, dear boy, patience!... :) > >Regards > >Tony Sleep Really? Now I *am* excited - although the thing that most appeals to me is the ability of some lucky bugger to have the comparison scan

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-08 Thread Julian Robinson
Ouch! Yes it was the spell checker, with my help. I like the often quoted "useful phrase" from an old French text book - which was - "Lo! the postilion has been struck by lightning!" Very handy in so many situations, Julian At 02:07 08/07/01, you wrote: >On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Peter Marquis-Kyl

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-08 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
>>The SS120 produces superior 35mm scans to the SS4000 and wipes the floor >>with the 4000ED. If the 8000 scans anything like the 4000ED then I'm real >>sorry for you Nikon users. The SS120 comes mighty close to Imacon quality Comments like the one quoted above don't really add anything useful

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-08 Thread Mikael Risedal
4000ED then I'm real >sorry for you Nikon users. The SS120 comes mighty close to Imacon quality >From: Ian Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED >Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:44:28

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-07 Thread Lynn Allen
Re Lawrence's scans, I also noted that the Nikon scan was much "flatter" in color and overall tone--but did not comment, hoping that wiser, more experienced heads would do so. Bear in mind that Lawrence said the Nikon scan more resembled the original (at least as he saw it--he didn't mention a

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-07 Thread Walter Bushell
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Peter Marquis-Kyle wrote: > > being in a postilion to do the same thing for the 35mm scanners - LS4000, > > ...don't you just love it when the spell checker does that? It just reminds me > how difficult it is to get good postilions these days. > > ___>Since the invention

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-07 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 11:27:01 +0100 Jawed Ashraf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > CMYK->LAB->CMYK isn't innocuous as far as I know, but that's mostly to > do > with the fact that CMYK is "broken" isn't it (any conversion to CMYK is > going to "lose" quality)? If someone has a source of detailed inf

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-07 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sat, 07 Jul 2001 11:52:17 +1000 Julian Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I dream of someone > being in a postilion to do the same thing for the 35mm scanners Patience, dear boy, patience!... :) Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scann

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-07 Thread Tony Sleep
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 15:50:48 -0400 Wilson, Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The Nikon does seem marginally sharper but the Polaroid seems to have = > better > shadow detail (lower right side of the uncropped shot). It's hard to tell, since exposure and contrast vary between the two - the Po

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-07 Thread Peter Marquis-Kyle
> being in a postilion to do the same thing for the 35mm scanners - LS4000, ...don't you just love it when the spell checker does that? It just reminds me how difficult it is to get good postilions these days.

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-07 Thread Jawed Ashraf
CTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert E. Wright > Sent: 07 July 2001 05:56 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > > > Well, that brings up a whole new subject. Since your are going to > convert to > 8 bit mode for final output, I

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Robert E. Wright
y and to little actual perception in the image. Bob - Original Message - From: Jawed Ashraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > Ah, you have to be in 8-bit mode to do the fade - someth

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Julian Robinson
of scanners and I'll do the tests ... Thanks Lawrence, Julian > > -Original Message- > > From: Lawrence Smith > [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: R

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Jawed Ashraf
essage- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Decker > Sent: 06 July 2001 19:35 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > > > More contrast on the Sprintscan..nikon colors and saturation are better > > La

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Jawed Ashraf
bert E. Wright > Sent: 06 July 2001 18:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > > > > - Original Message - > From: Jawed Ashraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:31 PM >

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread rafeb
At 03:53 PM 7/6/01 -0600, Frank Nichols wrote: > I took at look at the detail comparison crops (of the label) in >Photoshop at 1200%. The SS120 has much smoother transitions in colors >(softer?) while the Nikon 8000ED has sharper variations between pixels. I >converted both to greyscale and

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Frank Nichols
Title: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED I took at look at the detail comparison crops (of the label) in Photoshop at 1200%. The SS120 has much smoother transitions in colors (softer?) while the Nikon 8000ED has sharper variations between pixels. I converted both to greyscale and measured the

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Mikael Risedal
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED >Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:07:19 -0400 > >I just posted a set of camparison scans by a SS120 and an 8000ED to my site >at http://www.lwsphoto.com/scan%20tests.htm > >These are not a final conclusions, they ar

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Wilson, Paul
Title: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED The Nikon does seem marginally sharper but the Polaroid seems to have better shadow detail (lower right side of the uncropped shot).  However, it is a little tough to tell from the small .jpg. Lawrence, I assume you'll post more conclusions when you

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Lynn Allen wrote: > It's clear to me that ICE "nailed" a couple of dust motes in the bottle > lettering, and that the Nikon scan is marginally sharper. But if the theme > is "Italy," the warmer tones of the SprintScan come closest (even if the > original didn't). This, of

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread tflash
he roles might be reversed. :-) > > As Lawrence said on his site, the judgement is largly subjective, and so > it's your call. > > Best regards--LRA > >> From: "Lawrence Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: <[

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Lawrence Smith
Of Moreno Polloni > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > > > > I just posted a set of camparison scans by a SS120 and an 8000ED to my > site > > at http://www.lwsphoto.com/scan%20tests.htm > > &g

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Moreno Polloni
> I just posted a set of camparison scans by a SS120 and an 8000ED to my site > at http://www.lwsphoto.com/scan%20tests.htm > > These are not a final conclusions, they are simply examples > > I am a bit surprised by the results however. What is it that surprises you?

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Rick Decker
More contrast on the Sprintscan..nikon colors and saturation are better Lawrence Smith wrote: > I just posted a set of camparison scans by a SS120 and an 8000ED to my site > at http://www.lwsphoto.com/scan%20tests.htm > > These are not a final conclusions, they are simply examples > > I am a

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Robert E. Wright
- Original Message - From: Jawed Ashraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:31 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED > David, when using Photoshop, if you convert the image to LAB mode > (Image|Mode|Lab Color) then you will

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Lynn Allen
;happy accident"--if the theme were "Yelow Knife, Canada," the roles might be reversed. :-) As Lawrence said on his site, the judgement is largly subjective, and so it's your call. Best regards--LRA >From: "Lawrence Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To:

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Lawrence Smith
I just posted a set of camparison scans by a SS120 and an 8000ED to my site at http://www.lwsphoto.com/scan%20tests.htm These are not a final conclusions, they are simply examples I am a bit surprised by the results however. Lawrence

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-06 Thread Arthur Entlich
Jack Phillips Stated: Paul-- Be sure you check out Digital ROC and Digital GEM as part of your comparison. I've been using Digital ROC on normally exposed images with a wide dynamic range where part of the image I'm interested in is over/under exposed with great results. It is also very helpful

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-05 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Or apply the USM while in RGB or CMYK, then "Edit-Fade Unsharp Mask-Mode: Luminosity" Maris - Original Message - From: "Jawed Ashraf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 8:31 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-05 Thread Jawed Ashraf
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hemingway, David J Sent: 05 July 2001 23:22 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED Paul, The Sprintscan 120 does not come bundled with any interface cards. I would describe PolaColor Insight as a easy to use, get up and running

RE: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-05 Thread Austin Franklin
> OK, but to take the mfgrs' side (which I very rarely do), how do > you "test" > a filmscanner prior to shipment? I'd say do a scan of a standard slide in an automated test setup. This is standard issue for most any product of "this nature". Cripes, for a $3k+ scanner, they can take 4 minute

Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED

2001-07-05 Thread rafeb
At 07:44 PM 7/5/01 +0100, Ian Lyons wrote: >PS: I think the silence has just been broken, or maybe as a VERY satisfied >SS120 user I just needed to crow and let you Nikon users know that the grass >IS greener on the other side of the fence and judging by some of ex Nikon >8000 users on the lis

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