Seems I recall the existence somewhere of a list of command equivalents
between FinMac and FinWin. I've been giving someone with FinWin help as
needed lately and I keep tripping over the differences, as I'm on the Mac.
Does such a resource actually exist or is my imagination and wishful
thinking
On 2002/10/12 10:04 PM or thereabouts, Andrew Stiller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> intoned:
> I've explained this to the list, it feels like, over and over and
> over. Whay doesn't it stick? Make a sampler, people! Put it on your
> wall:
>
> X X X GERMAN BASS CLARINETS USE THE BASS CLEF X X X
Oh, well,
On 2002/10/12 10:09 PM or thereabouts, Andrew Stiller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> intoned:
> In this case, then, the bass clef is not non-standard, since any
> professional bass clarinettist must have a mastery of that clef,
> since numerous German works from the standard repertoire are so
> notated.
We
> How do you decide if a composer is misinformed? If a composer prefers to
notate bass instruments in bass clef (surely not an illogical
thing to do), I
suppose that could be seen as misinformed by someone who believes those
instruments should be notated in treble clef. Someone of a
differ
> [John Blane:]
(although I am unclear as
to why you would show a bass clef for this instrument).
"The Technique of Orchestration" by Kent Wheeler Kennan, if I remember
correctly (it's not handy to check now) states that either the
treble clef or
bass clef can be used for notating music
Thought I would pass this along...
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A bass clef for bass clarinet is also used in those scores in concert pitch.
I am asked to do that all the time. After I have to prepare the part in
transposed G-clef, and of course I have to correct all the overlapping
problems.
Also I have seen that in the pieces for soprano, guitar, and clarine
Michael Edwards wrote:
[snip]
Well, I have to grant that players of transposing instruments are not used
to reading parts at concert pitch - but now that we can use computers to notate
music, there would seem to be something to be said for producing scores written
at concert pitch, but, wh
At 06:34 PM 10/12/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>the bass clef is no longer a viable option for bass clarinet
>parts.
However, for a chamber group two years ago, I was asked to make sure the
b.c. part was in bass clef at sounding pitch, not treble clef. But it was a
b.c.-only player, not a cl
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:28:17 +1000, you wrote:
> If you were trying to read a score for an ensemble of saxophones, in
>various registers, but all written in treble clef, I would have thought it would
>be a nightmare to actually try to decipher what notes are being played.
A "nightmare?' Com
On 2002/10/12 07:28 PM or thereabouts, Michael Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
intoned:
> If you were trying to read a score for an ensemble of saxophones, in various
> registers, but all written in treble clef, I would have thought it would be a
> nightmare to actually try to decipher what notes are
The main argument against this for me, as someone who has done a fair
amount of conducting, is that after you have studied all the
instruments and their characteristic sound in different parts of their
range, I would much rather see what the player sees, and have therby a
very clear sense of what t
[John Blane:]
>Don't you mean "sounds" a major 2nd lower?
Yes, I did mean that. Perhaps I was a bit loose in saying "played" a major
2nd lower - but sounding is what I meant. (In other words, I didn't mean that
the player plays the note as if it were written a major 2nd lower than what he
[David H. Bailey:]
>Traditionally bass clarinetists read music in treble clef, sounding a
>major 9th lower, so that soprano clarinetists can simply pick up a bass
>clarinet and start playing. It gets back to the whole transposing
>instrument thing, where the music has to be transposed so the play
On 2002/10/12 06:47 PM or thereabouts, Colin Broom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> intoned:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark D. Lew
>
>> It's possible that there is some good reason to be using the bass clef
> that
>> you're unaware of.
>
> Ok, I'll come clean. For reasons that are too unint
- Original Message -
From: "Mark D. Lew
> It's possible that there is some good reason to be using the bass clef
that
> you're unaware of.
Ok, I'll come clean. For reasons that are too uninteresting to explain,
I've been putting the Introduction of Part 1 of of Stravinsky's 'The Rite of
Traditionally bass clarinetists read music in treble clef, sounding a
major 9th lower, so that soprano clarinetists can simply pick up a bass
clarinet and start playing. It gets back to the whole transposing
instrument thing, where the music has to be transposed so the player can
simply switch
In a message dated 10/12/02 5:13:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< if it is in bass clef, it is played a major 2nd lower. Considering the
pitch range
of the instrument, I would have thought the bass clef to be the better choice,
and the one I would prefer.>>
Don't you mean "sounds" a major
On 2002/10/12 06:05 PM or thereabouts, Michael Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
intoned:
> [John Blane:]
>
>> (although I am unclear as
>> to why you would show a bass clef for this instrument).
>
> "The Technique of Orchestration" by Kent Wheeler Kennan, if I remember
> correctly (it's not handy to
[John Blane:]
>(although I am unclear as
>to why you would show a bass clef for this instrument).
"The Technique of Orchestration" by Kent Wheeler Kennan, if I remember
correctly (it's not handy to check now) states that either the treble clef or
bass clef can be used for notating music for
At 10:20 PM 10/12/02, Colin Broom wrote:
>Aha! That did it. Thanks. As to your thoughts regarding using bass clef
>for bass clarinet, I thought the same thing, but I'm just following the
>score - it's not my music.
Just a thought to share with people here, no ax to grind: Isn't it a shame
tha
At 8:36 PM 10/12/02, Michael Edwards wrote:
> I wasn't saying there was a justification, and I can't envisage a
>situation
>where it would seem called for on this list, or on most lists. I simply added
>the proviso to cover unforeseen situations where it *might* be
>appropriate. (It
>might b
- Original Message -
> This transposition includes a "Set to clef" setting (in the tranposition
> section of the staff attributes) which has locked this staff to treble
clef.
> Uncheck this option and your bass clef will appear (although I am unclear
as
> to why you would show a bass clef
Colin,
have a look into db staff attributes/staff transposition.
Surely there is 'Set to clef' + treble clef enabled.
If you want to have clef changes - disable 'Set to clef'.
Best wishes
Raimund Lintzen
Colin Broom schrieb:
> Ok, this is a new one on me. I'm putting in a bass clarinet part
In a message dated 10/12/02 3:53:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Ok, this is a new one on me. I'm putting in a bass clarinet part at the
moment (in transposed pitch), and I can't seem to insert a bass clef in one
particular bar. It just seems to refuse to display, no matter what settings
Ok, this is a new one on me. I'm putting in a bass clarinet part at the
moment (in transposed pitch), and I can't seem to insert a bass clef in one
particular bar. It just seems to refuse to display, no matter what settings
I choose, even if I have"Always show Clef", or place the clef before or
a
On 12.10.2002 16:49 Uhr, Bill and/or Chris wrote
> I second that. In fact, I've suggested it before, but have always been
> shot down. There are some people on this list who think it's important
> for non-members to be able to post. But we could set it up so that if a
> non-member wanted to ma
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 at 00:33:06 +1000, "Michael Edwards"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [Joel Sears:]
>
> >I've heard about this scam on the radio.
>
> I've received dozens of variants of this - amazing, the number of people in
> Nigeria, including highly-placed business people and ex-poli
[Mark D. Lew:]
>Why would there ever be justification for attaching a binary to this list?
>If you have a binary to share, upload it to a website and post a link. I
>think a filter to strip all binaries would be fine.
I wasn't saying there was a justification, and I can't envisage a situati
[David H. Bailey:]
>Along with the not-allowing non-subscribers to post comes the
>responsibility of moderating all new subscribers. These spam-bots are
>becoming more sophisticated all the time, subscribing to lists, sending
>a single post and then unsubscribing. So merely preventing
>non-subsc
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