>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 04:15:01 +0100
>To: Fin<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: John Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>PS My original query was intended to be light-hearted. In a way I'm
>almost disappointed that I got no obscene suggestions.
Sigh. Guess that's my cue...
In HS Music Theory, when we did bass
At 07:02 pm -0800 01.07.2002, Mark D. Lew wrote:
>if they focus the mind to use the right muscles
>to make the right sound, then it's a useful fiction.
You put that better than I did, but I think it's exactly right.
>From a physiological point of
>view, half the concepts we teach are inaccurate
At 2:56 AM 07/02/02, John Bell wrote:
> Practising the difficult passage should eventually
>lead to mastering it, and if using the phrase helps to focus the mind
>does it matter if it's nonsense?
Well, it doesn't work for me, but if it works for others, great.
I'm all in favor of anything that
At 04:03 pm -0800 01.07.2002, Mark D. Lew wrote:
>I too find this alleged mnemonic bewildering, even after reading the
>explanation. None of the proposed phrases fall naturally into the
>prescribed rhythm. Sure, you could say the phrase that way anyway, but
>that presupposes that you already kno
At 9:50 PM 06/30/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>I'm not getting any of this. What is that supposed to help with? Maybe you
>have to know a timing trick first before the mnemonic helps, because I sure
>don't see it!
I too find this alleged mnemonic bewildering, even after reading the
explanation
John Bell wrote on July 01
> My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
> difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
> teacher has suggested "what atrocious weather" as an aid (we live in
> London).
>
> Does anyone know of other phrases that might help
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>
> "Pass the goddamn butter" is irregular the way I say it (quarter-eighth
> triplet, two quarters, two eighths) unless you add a rest at the end and
> flatten it all out. Then I can hear the 1-2-4-6 syllable part as the 4
> side, but did you mean 1-3-6 for the three
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> At 09:37 PM 6/30/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 09:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
>>>
Does anyone know of other phrases that might help?
>>>I was taught "pass the golden
From: "John Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
> difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
> teacher has suggested "what atrocious weather" as an aid (we live in
> London).
>Does anyone know of other phrases that
At 11:08 PM -0400 6/30/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>
>In any case, whatever this is strikes me as a heck of a lot of hard work,
>versus just learning 3 against 4 by itself. I had to sketch this sentence
>on paper a few times. Kids get this? I taught elementary school music for
>six years and
At 09:50 pm -0400 30.06.2002, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>I'm not getting any of this. What is that supposed to help with? Maybe you
>have to know a timing trick first before the mnemonic helps, because I sure
>don't see it!
>
>(I'm not a keyboardist at all, but I have conducted two meters
simu
I said:
>Tap one hand on syllables 1, 2, 4, and 6; tap the other hand on syllables 1,
>5, and 6. Instant 3 against 4.
That's 1, 3, and 5 in the other hand, of course.
Aaron.
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At 10:34 PM 6/30/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Tap one hand on syllables 1, 2, 4, and 6; tap the other hand on syllables
>1, 5, and 6. Instant 3 against 4.
"Pass the goddamn butter" is irregular the way I say it (quarter-eighth
triplet, two quarters, two eighths) unless you add a rest at the end and
fla
At 09:50 PM 06/30/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>At 09:37 PM 6/30/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>>That's a... erhm... "nicer" version of what I believe to be the original
>>mnemonic, "pass the goddamn butter."
>
>I'm not getting any of this. What is that supposed to help with? Maybe yo
In addition to the various things about butter (I personally learned "eat
your goddamned spinach"), you can also approach this rhythm the other way:
"Aunt Mary bakes a cake".
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At 09:37 PM 6/30/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>
>On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 09:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
>> On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of other phrases that might help?
>>
>> I was taught "pass the golden butter."
>
>That's a... erhm... "nicer" vers
On 30 Jun 2002, at 21:37, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 09:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
> >
> >> My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
> >> difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 i
At 1:57 AM +0100 7/01/02, John Bell wrote:
>My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
>difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
>teacher has suggested "what atrocious weather" as an aid (we live in
>London).
>
>Does anyone know of other phrases tha
David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
>
> > My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
> > difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
> > teacher has suggested "what atrocious weather" as an aid (we live in
> > London).
On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 09:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
>
>> My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
>> difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
>> teacher has suggested "what atrocious weather" as
On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
> My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
> difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
> teacher has suggested "what atrocious weather" as an aid (we live in
> London).
>
> Does anyone know of other phrase
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested "what atrocious weather" as an aid (we live in
London).
Does anyone know of other phrases that might help?
Thanks for any suggestions
John
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