RE: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-29 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 8:53 AM 05/28/03, James O'Briant wrote: >All I can tell you is that I regularly and repeatedly receive >compliments from my customers on the readability of the music I sell, >and that I have never had one single complaint about my use of >accidentals or the method in which I engrave key changes

RE: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-29 Thread James O'Briant
Robert Patterson wrote: > ...If you take nothing else away from a reading > of Ted Ross's book, you should take away that > communication of the composer's intent to a > performer in the most efficient and clear way > was his overriding concern. I agree that clear communication of the compo

Re: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-29 Thread Giz Bowe
I believe I was the first in this thread to use "aesthetic" in regard to engraving, and want to clarify that I did NOT use it in a negative, ironic or derogatory way. I should let Jim O'Briant speak for himself, but my guess is he also doesn't use "aesthetics" in a derisive way, as he is a musi

Re: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-28 Thread Robert Patterson
> -Original Message- > From: James O'Briant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > But I stand firmly against notation "gimmicks" for purposes of style or > engraving aesthetics or the like. What composers do is one thing, but what engravers do is another. One can argue about the pros and cons o

Re: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-27 Thread Michael Edwards
[John Howell (on newer tendency to omit naturals in key signature change):] >I could be wrong, but the change I think I've seen between late 19th >century orchestral engraving and 20th century engraving is not a >change in whether to cancel accidentals, but in where to put the >cancelation. Cance

Re: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-27 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 5:56 PM 05/27/03, John Howell wrote: >I could be wrong, but the change I think I've seen between late 19th >century orchestral engraving and 20th century engraving is not a >change in whether to cancel accidentals, but in where to put the >cancelation. Cancelling before the bar line gives a wa

Re: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-27 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 8:41 AM 05/27/03, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: [answering me] >>I would add one point, though. The rule I've often seen, and which I >>prefer, is that when you're switching from sharps to flats or vice versa, >>you do not cancel the outgoing signature, but if you're switching from >>several sha

Re: [Finale] Changing key sigs without courtesy naturals - a good idea?

2003-05-27 Thread Andrew Stiller
> From: Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was recently looking thru my copy of the Doors _Waiting for the Sun_ printed anthology, and noticed a variant of this that I don't think Finale can currently do w.o a workaround: when changing from F to Bb at the end of a line, the cautionary key si