"Dennis W. Manasco" wrote:
> It seems
> like a good system for sales by small-volume sellers from what I have
> seen as a buyer, but I don't have any information on how easy they
> are to deal with from a seller's point of view.
>
When used with eBay auctions, it is quite simple and seamless. Us
At 8:15 AM -0700 6/27/02, Robert Patterson wrote:
>It [Billpoint] provides secure web payment w/o looking at bank
>accounts or requiring sign
>up. It is unlike (at least) Kagi, in that there is no storefront.
>You request an
>invoice from the seller, the seller sends it, you pay it. As with Pay
At 12:49 PM +0200 6/27/02, Tobias Giesen wrote:
>Dennis:
> > The banking lobby has been successful in stopping all laws
>designed to protect customers from >fraudulent electronic
>withdrawals from their checking accounts.
>
>In Germany, you simply go to the bank and cancel the unauthorized
>t
On Thu, 27 June 2002, "Dennis W. Manasco" wrote
> If [Billpoint] is another system similar to Kagi or Digital River, which
> merely provides secure web payment without looking at bank accounts,
> I will examine it.
It provides secure web payment w/o looking at bank accounts or requiring sign
u
On Thu, 27 June 2002, "Dennis W. Manasco" wrote
> The few times I
> have tried to use eBay I have been inexorably steered toward paying
> with PayPal.
Aha! You must not have used eBay in a few years. Nowadays you are inexorably
steered towards Billpoint (on eBay called "eBay electronic payment
Dennis:
> The banking lobby has been successful in stopping
> all laws designed to protect customers from fraudulent
> electronic withdrawals from their checking accounts.
In Germany, you simply go to the bank and cancel the
unauthorized transaction, saying that it is indeed
unauthorized and
At 8:34 AM -0700 6/26/02, Robert Patterson wrote:
>On Wed, 26 June 2002, "Dennis W. Manasco" wrote
>
>> PayPal gives me the heebie jeebies...
>
>I think the reason many buyers have this reaction is the fact that
>they have to sign up and are eventually required to give a bank
>account if they
Dennis --
At 6:03 AM -0400 6/26/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>Eh? I've used them all, but try to avoid Kagi, which is a private company.
Most of the places (though not most of the total dollar volume) at
which I use my card in the corporeal world are "private companies." I
don't see how ow
Tobias --
At 11:57 AM +0200 6/26/02, Tobias Giesen wrote:
> > I, at least, am willing to pay the extra cost that Kagi charges
>for their service just to have the peace of >mind that comes from
>knowing that they take transaction security seriously.
>
>a) The customer is never charged such fee
I use PayPal from here (Spain) without any problems, or fears.
And thanks to the speed of this systems I could buy the TGTools precisely
the day I need them.
Saludos,
Javier.
> I know there may have been some complaints about PayPal,
> but to the best of my knowledge a lack of security is not
>
On Wed, 26 June 2002, "Dennis W. Manasco" wrote
> PayPal gives me the heebie jeebies...
I think the reason many buyers have this reaction is the fact that they have to
sign up and are eventually required to give a bank account if they want to use
it for more than a few transactions. Even though
yment like on your
own website.
Mike
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> Mik
Mike:
> And PayPal would not accept my credit card (VISA)
> although it is perfectly legit.
Other people have had that happen with Kagi. Such things do happen, but
rarely. In what way did they not accept it? Did you try to go through
the usual procedure of having an international credit card con
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> b) PayPal transactions are secu
At 03:08 AM 6/26/02 -0500, Dennis W. Manasco wrote:
>Please offer an alternative payment plan through a more trustworthy
>system than PayPal (like Kagi or Digital River). PayPal gives me the
>heebie jeebies and I want nothing to do with anything associated with
>eBay.
Eh? I've used them all, b
Dennis:
> PayPal gives me the heebie jeebies and I want
> nothing to do with anything associated with eBay.
That's fine, even if you're missing out ...
> I, at least, am willing to pay the extra cost that
> Kagi charges for their service just to have the peace
> of mind that comes from knowin
On 26.06.2002 10:08 Uhr, Dennis W. Manasco wrote
> BUT:
>
> Please offer an alternative payment plan through a more trustworthy
> system than PayPal (like Kagi or Digital River). PayPal gives me the
> heebie jeebies and I want nothing to do with anything associated with
> eBay. I, at least, am w
Robert --
I've always said that I would gladly pay for the Patterson Plug-Ins.
It's time to put my money where my mouth is. The price is more than
fair, even for a duffer like me who mainly uses Patterson Beams.
BUT:
Please offer an alternative payment plan through a more trustworthy
system
At 10:27 AM 06/25/02, Robert Patterson wrote:
>There are two versions of Patterson Beams: one that is dist. w/ Finale and is
>covered by that license and one that is dist. with the Patterson Plug-In
>Collection and covered by that license.
To help avoid some confusion, might I suggest that one
I just realized that Abel addressed his questions to the whole list, so I'll
repeat my answer to him here. Most of his questions are answered on the website
FAQ. The one that is not (and I'll add it as soon as I can) is the one about the
Finale dist. of Patterson Beams.
There are two versions of
> Does it mean your plugins are not free anymore?
Looks like a $59 shareware registration fee. Well worth it. My past use of
Patterson Beams has easily been worth $59 and the new Beams Over Barlines
plugin is simply a miracle!
Richard Yates
___
Fina
Robert,
Does it mean your plugins are not free anymore?
I ask, because it is not clear from reading the license agreement in ReadMeWin.txt.
And what about the previous versions of Patterson Tools, can we still use them for
free?
As Patterson Beams is part of Finale bundle, has it got a license o
The release version (and docs) of Beam Over Barlines is at the website,
along with significantly enhanced Staff Sets and a complete new look to
the website. (Other significant changes will be apparent as well.)
I've adopted Tobias's "Version History" approach so that y'all can see
exactly what's
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