Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 1:02 PM 06/09/03, David H. Bailey wrote: >And they don't come up with a list of reasons not to buy finale, because >by and large there don't seem to be many people who are primarily >computer-engravers, but more composers who aren't interested in the >minutiae of page layout and item alignment

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 7:57 AM 06/09/03, David H. Bailey wrote: >To be fair, Sibelius (version 2.1 -- I don't know about earlier >versions) will show you the exact measurement from a reference point >that you are moving something. And it shows that while you are moving >it, so if you are moving something vertically

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Jun 2003 at 7:57, David H. Bailey wrote: > To be fair, Sibelius (version 2.1 -- I don't know about earlier > versions) will show you the exact measurement from a reference point > that you are moving something. And it shows that while you are moving > it, so if you are moving something ve

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 7:55 PM 06/08/03, Dan Carno wrote: >What version of Sibelius are you guys talking about? For example, >articulations can be easily grabbed & moved *vertically*. Sibelius does >not let you move them horizontally from their centered position, but why >would you want to? Well, for one thing, de

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread David H. Bailey
Actually, on the Sibelius list there are very few references to Finale, and those that do crop up are pretty much the same-old "huge learning curve" complaints. Nobody has claimed that Sibelius does anything better than Finale. And they don't come up with a list of reasons not to buy finale, be

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 6:28 PM +0200 6/09/03, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 09.06.2003 13:53 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote To be fair, there is an independent Sibelius yahoogroup which is very similar to this Finale community. I am curious: do they also have a list of XX reasons not to buy Finale, and do they point out t

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
What version of Sibelius are you guys talking about? For example, articulations can be easily grabbed & moved *vertically*. Sibelius does not let you move them horizontally from their centered position, but why would you want to? Daniel Carno Trill on a note in the middle of a chord. -- Andr

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.06.2003 13:53 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote > To be fair, there is an independent Sibelius yahoogroup which is very > similar to this Finale community. I am curious: do they also have a list of XX reasons not to buy Finale, and do they point out the shortcomings of Finale from time to time? Wh

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:55 PM -0400 6/08/03, Dan Carno wrote: Hi gang! What version of Sibelius are you guys talking about? For example, articulations can be easily grabbed & moved *vertically*. Sibelius does not let you move them horizontally from their centered position, but why would you want to? Scoops, fal

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread David H. Bailey
ved professionalism of the engraving. Finale wins again. - Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darcy James Argue Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New F

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread David H. Bailey
To be fair, there is an independent Sibelius yahoogroup which is very similar to this Finale community. And it is inhabited by a representative of Sibelius, who is very helpful in answering questions, although quite often the answer is simply a reference to what page in the manual to look at f

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-09 Thread David H. Bailey
Dan Carno wrote: Hi gang! What version of Sibelius are you guys talking about? For example, articulations can be easily grabbed & moved *vertically*. Sibelius does not let you move them horizontally from their centered position, but why would you want to? This comes up a lot on the Finale l

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Linda Worsley
I've been thrashing around trying to get a colleague to use Finale. She's switching from ...ugh... Encore, which is smart; but switching TO Sibelius, which I consider incredibly dumb. Can someone post me the original gazillion reasons for not switching to Encore? I missed it in my own switch

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Tim Thompson
Has anyone mentioned the non-transposing chord symbols? Let me explain: I have an adjunct colleague who teaches Computer Apps. in Music for me, along with Jazz and some other things. We use Finale at the University, but he switched to Sibelius when it first came available, and constantly tell

RE: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
, 2003 2:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release) > > > > On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 03:46 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > 21. In part extracts of Multi Wind parts you will loose the > > transpositions for each i

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Richard Huggins
To me there's an easier test to apply: If it were 1:30 a.m. and you were on deadline for the next morning and you couldn't afford to encounter something you HAD to do but could find no WAY to do, which program would you want to be working with? I don't work with Sibelius, but that notwithstanding

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 07:55 PM, Dan Carno wrote: What version of Sibelius are you guys talking about? My experience is mainly with v1.4 and Windows NT. I understand there have been some significant improvements since then. For instance I notice that, as of 2.1, you can now move ending b

[Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 07:55 PM 6/8/2003 -0400, Dan Carno wrote: Hi gang! What version of Sibelius are you guys talking about? For example, articulations can be easily grabbed & moved *vertically*. Sibelius does not let you move them horizontally from their centered position, but why would you want to? I don't k

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Dan Carno
Hi gang! What version of Sibelius are you guys talking about? For example, articulations can be easily grabbed & moved *vertically*. Sibelius does not let you move them horizontally from their centered position, but why would you want to? BTW, in my Sibelius manual (Version 2), articulations

[Finale] Sibelius (was: New Finale release)

2003-06-08 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 03:46 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: 21. In part extracts of Multi Wind parts you will loose the transpositions for each instrument change. Oooh. Yes, I forgot about that. That's a deal-breaker right there, especially for jazz arranging students. 24. So you want to mov