Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 13.02.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: Every so often one of my postings disappears between my keyboard and the list. For example, earlier today I sent a reply to the query about orchestral forces in various works that never seems to have reached its destination. Among other things I asked (par

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread bill
I can relate to dissapearing posts. Through the thread of 8th = quarter, I offered a font solution which can handle any and all you are arguing about. As far as I am concerned, "previous" becomes "current". That's it. Those of you who hold on to historic tradition should realize that those who c

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Andrew Stiller / 2006/02/12 / 09:43 PM wrote: >Oh: and why are my postings, some of them, disappearing? I get this, too. I subscribe to many MailMan2 lists as well as I admin one of them myself, but this Finale list is the only one does this. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Bost

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread John Howell
At 9:43 PM -0500 2/12/06, Andrew Stiller wrote: Among other things I asked (partly just to be provocative) whether by "Schubert's 9th" was meant the Great C Major or the Unfinished, since the two have recently changed places--and I attended a concert last week in which the C Major was perform

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread Raymond Horton
I saw your post, Andrew. It's the first time I've heard of the two Schubert symphnies trading places, BTW. RBH Andrew Stiller wrote: Every so often one of my postings disappears between my keyboard and the list. For example, earlier today I sent a reply to the query about orchestral fo

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 12, 2006, at 9:43 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Every so often one of my postings disappears between my keyboard and the list. For example, earlier today I sent a reply to the query about orchestral forces in various works that never seems to have reached its destination. Among other t

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread Cecil Rigby
I received the one you mention, Andrew. Maybe unsubscribing and resubscribing would reset the listserve and take care of the problem? Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) www.harrockhall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] disappearing posts > Among other things I asked (partly just t

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread Chuck Israels
Andrew, I saw that one - it didn't disappear. I just had nothing intelligent to offer in response (not that that has always stopped me in the past!). Chuck On Feb 12, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Every so often one of my postings disappears between my keyboard and the list. F

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread David W. Fenton
On 12 Feb 2006 at 16:45, Brian Williams wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > > 128th notes not only exist conceptually and can be implemented in > > Finale (as I said in an earlier posts, up to 4096th notes are > > possible in Finale, with 10 beams, being a note of 1 EVPU in > > length), but I've

[Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
Every so often one of my postings disappears between my keyboard and the list. For example, earlier today I sent a reply to the query about orchestral forces in various works that never seems to have reached its destination. Among other things I asked (partly just to be provocative) whether

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread Brian Williams
David W. Fenton wrote: > 128th notes not only exist conceptually and can be implemented in > Finale (as I said in an earlier posts, up to 4096th notes are > possible in Finale, with 10 beams, being a note of 1 EVPU in length), > but I've encountered real music that used them. This piece by Emanuel

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:53 PM 2/12/06 -0500, Cecil Rigby wrote: >You don't say whether the beat unit remains the same, or if the two >different meters are both perfect, both compound, or a comn=bination. I >makes a difference. I think this is a perfect example of a notational failure. The notation is opaque. The

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread Cecil Rigby
Both Heussenstamm and Read show the equal sign centered on the barline only when arrows are being used in the more modern approach. (see my earlier msg..) The traditional notation showed all examples with the first note placed over the new meter. Cecil Rigby > The other important thing its to

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread Cecil Rigby
You don't say whether the beat unit remains the same, or if the two different meters are both perfect, both compound, or a comn=bination. I makes a difference.   Anyway, here's what the two best notation books I have offer;         <---   and      --->       are meant as arrows in these e

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-12 Thread David W. Fenton
On 12 Feb 2006 at 15:14, John Howell wrote: > At 8:47 PM +0100 2/12/06, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > >On 12.02.2006 Johan Vercruysse wrote: > >>Let me first introduce myself. > >>I'm a music teacher in Belgium. > >>We would like to set up a small musical library in our school. > >> > >>Anybody have s

[Finale] Score library database

2006-02-12 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
Dear Johan, About five years ago I created a library list of orchestral music in the personal library of a New York conductor. Anybody remember Don Voorhees and the Bell Telephone Orchestra? Don's personal library used in the weekly radio/TV broadcasts that originated in New York became the pr

RE: [Finale] Re: Encore imports

2006-02-12 Thread Williams, Jim
I believe the original poster was referring to NIFF, not to MusicXML. What became of NIFF, if anything? Is MusicXML some outgrowth of NIFF? Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Michael Good Sent: Sun 12-Feb-06 15:03 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Re:

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-12 Thread John Howell
At 8:47 PM +0100 2/12/06, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.02.2006 Johan Vercruysse wrote: Let me first introduce myself. I'm a music teacher in Belgium. We would like to set up a small musical library in our school. Anybody have some tips how to organize it. Anybody knows about simple software or

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-12 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I'm not sure whether you mean you need help setting up a catalogue system or a loan system.  I am presuming the former.   I use a normal everyday database program to organise our library - (we used to use the database program in Microsoft Works  then changed to Paradox which is much more powe

[Finale] Re: Encore imports

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Good
Hi Linda and John, > BUT, will 2006 import the shiny new Encore files? No, Finale 2006 will not import files from Encore 4.5 and later. Finale has not changed its Encore importer in years, since the base of Encore users has declined so much. Instead Finale has focusrf on ever-improving MusicXML s

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.02.2006 Johan Vercruysse wrote: Let me first introduce myself. I'm a music teacher in Belgium. We would like to set up a small musical library in our school. Anybody have some tips how to organize it. Anybody knows about simple software or database for such a score library. Very good qu

Re: [Finale] OT: Scoring for orchestral works, can anyone help?

2006-02-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.02.2006 John Howell wrote: Cherubini: Overture in G (1815) Eight overtures are listed, but not by either key or year. They all have names. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, the piece I am looking for does not have a name, and it may indeed not even be published. Hope this is helpful.

[Finale] OT Library

2006-02-12 Thread Johan Vercruysse
Sorry if you think I should not ask this question. Hello, Let me first introduce myself. I'm a music teacher in Belgium. We would like to set up a small musical library in our school. Anybody have some tips how to organize it. Anybody knows about simple software or database for such a score li

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread John Howell
At 1:54 PM -0500 2/12/06, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I have been used to: old value = new value The 8th value of previous section becomes quoter value in new section, indicates the music is going to be double time. I was recently told traditionally this is backward, which I think is very counterin

Re: [Finale] OT: Scoring for orchestral works, can anyone help?

2006-02-12 Thread John Howell
At 3:51 PM +0100 2/12/06, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Hi, Unfortunately I don't own the appropriate literature to look this up at home, perhaps those with access can help me out? I need to find out the exact scoring of certain symphonic works, some mainstream some not. I need the wind scoring, pe

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:54 PM 2/12/06 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >old value = new value >The 8th value of previous section becomes quoter value in new section, >indicates the music is going to be double time. I was recently told >traditionally this is backward, which I think is very counterintuitive, >but also

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread Darcy James Argue
The other important thing its to have the "=" centered above the barline. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 12 Feb 2006, at 2:07 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: Hiro, I agree with you so I always do <==8th=Q==>, just with nicer looking arrows, to

RE: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread Williams, Jim
Hiro, I agree with you so I always do <==8th=Q==>, just with nicer looking arrows, to clarify exactly what I mean. Perhaps one must be "of a certain age" to interpret it the other way. Though I *am* of that certain age, it still seems to me that your way is better. Jim __

[Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-12 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I have been used to: old value = new value The 8th value of previous section becomes quoter value in new section, indicates the music is going to be double time. I was recently told traditionally this is backward, which I think is very counterintuitive, but also it is not totally illogical.

Re: [Finale] OT: Scoring for orchestral works, can anyone help?

2006-02-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 12, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Schubert: 9th Symphony Are we talking about the Great C Major here, or the Unfinished? The two have recently changed places... Beethoven: Leonoren Overtures (all three, the same?) and Fidelio Overture Fidelio: 2.2.2.2/4.2.0.0/tim

Re: [Finale] OT: Scoring for orchestral works, can anyone help?

2006-02-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.02.2006 Aaron Sherber wrote: I can help you with some of these. Great, thanks Aaron. Very good start! Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:50 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: That piece was published in 1796, and is not at all the only piece in which I've encountered 128th notes. That said, I've never ever encountered anything smaller! Anthony Philip Heinrich wrote 128th-notes all the time, and not infrequentl

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:32 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: If you enter 128th notes, and then do what Johannes suggests, reducing the duration by 50%, you get 256th notes, with 6 beams. Another way to do this is with the Edit Frame dialog, where you can change the duration of a note by changing th

Re: [Finale] OT: Scoring for orchestral works, can anyone help?

2006-02-12 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi Johannes, I can help you with some of these. I think my notation should be obvious, but it's basically the same as (A good source is David Daniels' Orchestral Music: A Handbook, 4th ed. http://tinyurl.com/8j24m at amazon.com. I don't actu

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread Éric Dussault
then you could first define your tuplet so that the duration change will have the proper effect on them. Le 06-02-12 à 10:26, dc a écrit : The spacing issue is related to the tuplet definition. If I proceed as you say, create the tuplet and then change the duration, the tuplet definition i

[Finale] OT: Scoring for orchestral works, can anyone help?

2006-02-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Hi, Unfortunately I don't own the appropriate literature to look this up at home, perhaps those with access can help me out? I need to find out the exact scoring of certain symphonic works, some mainstream some not. I need the wind scoring, percussion etc. (If anyone knows a web page where I c

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread Owain Sutton
dc wrote: Owain Sutton écrit: dc wrote: Thanks to all for the tips. I realize I should have been more specific and apologize for not giving more context and for my ... ...snip... ... 64ths and then change the duration, the spacing is messed up. So, how could I go about doing this? Thanks,

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread Owain Sutton
dc wrote: Thanks to all for the tips. I realize I should have been more specific and apologize for not giving more context and for my mistake in counting (128th notes). Couperin often uses runs with four or five beams, but these aren't mathematically exact values, which means one has to use

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Cook
I'm sure that there are tricks to make this work. A simple one that comes to mind is this, if you're content with the spacing it gives you: - enter five 128th notes followed by a 128th note rest. - make this a tuplet (without bracket or number): three 64th notes in the time of one 8th note. -

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: If you're worried about proper playback, I'm not sure what you could do. But if you're not worried about proper playback, you could use time signatures to give you the space for what you need without resorting to tuplets. I don't need or use playback except for "

Re: [Finale] 256th notes

2006-02-12 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: Thanks to all for the tips. I realize I should have been more specific and apologize for not giving more context and for my mistake in counting (128th notes). Couperin often uses runs with four or five beams, but these aren't mathematically exact values, which means one has to use tu