Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 24, 2006, at 3:17 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: There is, though a third choice: that some fonts had fixed width "1"s, while others had proportional width "1"s, and if the typographer setting up the page knew that there would be a need to maintain a strict vertical alignment of columns, h

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends: I wrote: But I am less interested in pursuing this, than I am in other aspects of Fonts relative to Finale, for which I will begin a new thread. After hitting send, I decided I should have added something like "in the future" to the above statement. I perceive the advantage of unic

Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc

2006-10-24 Thread Christopher Smith
Oh isn't that cute! I never would have thought of that. Great tip, Michael! Christopher On Oct 24, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Michael Cook wrote: Christopher Smith described the method with the custom line tool. But there's another way, by making the text into a "custom arrowhead", which permits

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
To my comments, in part: Of the numerals, the only one which might fit on a rectangle of thinner dimensions is the "1", and I suspect that the historical type founders put the 1 on the same width body as the other numerals. David replied: Then it would have printed as fixed-width when used inl

Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc

2006-10-24 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Minke Hylarides wrote: 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? Depends upon how long the text block is. For a lengthy text

Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc

2006-10-24 Thread Michael Cook
Christopher Smith described the method with the custom line tool. But there's another way, by making the text into a "custom arrowhead", which permits 360° rotation: - Use the Expression tool and go through the usual steps to get to the Shape Designer. - Draw a line, then select it. - Choo

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 Oct 2006 at 20:46, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > Well, it seems to me that except for the 1 it's not distorting the > > natural shapes to much to make them the same width. Most of them fit > > into the same oval as a zero. > > As I understand the creation of cast typ

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 Oct 2006 at 18:24, Mark D Lew wrote: > Both of the experts I consulted confirmed that numerals with > descenders ("oldstyle") are the original forms. My brother (who really > is a type historian) tells me that the numerals without descenders > ("lining") were introduced in the late 1700s in

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 Oct 2006 at 18:03, Mark D Lew wrote: > On Oct 23, 2006, at 11:22 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > That is exactly the opposite of what I was saying. The *lack* of > > those in modern fonts is the abberation. > > Omitting the "lack of" or "without" was just a slip-up in my typing my > last

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Oct 2006 at 14:19, John Howell wrote: > I admit that I am puzzled by the coloration in measure 12, since as > realized the black semibreve and breve have exactly the same value as > it they were normally white. I can answer that one. Black notation was used in these contexts (pre- cadentia

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Oct 2006 at 9:08, Ken Moore wrote: > "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My guess is that it's a holdover from the days when multimeasure > > rests actually represented the number of rests involved. That meant > > in 4/4 two measures of rest would be represented by a double w

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Oct 2006 at 8:53, dc wrote: > David W. Fenton écrit: > >But haven't you created the problem for yourself by halving the 4/2 > >section and leaving the 3/1 section in its original meter? If you > >were moving from 3/1 to 4/2 it would be the original ratios and you > >wouldn't have the spacing

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread Robert Patterson
Andrew Stiller: > > Even more sensible would be to leave empty measures empty--as in fact > has been done in most music of the last fifty years and more. By this do you mean cutaway scores? If so, they not only leave the measure empty but also remove the staff-lines as well. I would dispute the

Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc

2006-10-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 24, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Minke Hylarides wrote: 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? Do you mean rotated tex

Re: [Finale] Importing a score

2006-10-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 24, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Will Denayer wrote: Aaron, Phil, The file I downloaded is in pdf. Best regards, Will While there is a tool for reading scans and changing them into Finale notation, there are many errors and it is very fussy to do so. The easiest way is for you to enter it in

Re: [Finale] Importing a score

2006-10-24 Thread dhbailey
Will Denayer wrote: Aaron, Phil, The file I downloaded is in pdf. Best regards, Will Then the best way to import it accurately is to enter it by hand. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.ed

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread John Howell
At 9:47 AM +0100 10/24/06, Ken Moore wrote: "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 23 Oct 2006 at 22:52, dc wrote: > > The 3/1 sections use mostly double whole notes and whole notes, whereas the C sections use up to 16th notes. > See for example >

Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc

2006-10-24 Thread Barbara Touburg
Hi Minke, Give me a call and I'll explain how to accomplish this. Barbara Minke Hylarides wrote: Dear Finale-colleagues, at this moment I have two questions: 1.) Is it possible to close a group barline only at the END of each system? I've looked in the Help, and the only way I found was

[Finale] Importing a score

2006-10-24 Thread Will Denayer
Aaron, Phil, The file I downloaded is in pdf. Best regards, Will - All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shs

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Oct 23, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: One of the overriding concerns of music notation thru the ages, and esp. engraving, seems to have been the elimination of the need to AssUMe anything. It is, of course, a never-ending quest, but in this case the convention is quite sensib

Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc

2006-10-24 Thread Rafael
On 24 Oct 2006 at 18:32, Minke Hylarides wrote: > Dear Finale-colleagues, > > at this moment I have two questions: > > > > 1.) Is it possible to close a group barline only at the END of each system? > I've looked in the Help, and the only way I found was to insert a "false" > barline, which m

[Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc

2006-10-24 Thread Minke Hylarides
Dear Finale-colleagues, at this moment I have two questions: 1.) Is it possible to close a group barline only at the END of each system? I've looked in the Help, and the only way I found was to insert a "false" barline, which means I have to draw lines on all 180 pages (that makes. how many sy

Re: [Finale] importing a score into Finale

2006-10-24 Thread Phil Daley
At 10/24/2006 11:47 AM, Will Denayer wrote: >Second, suppose I have a score that I downloaded from the net - say a >partita of Bach - and I want to import the score into Finale, so that I can >look at the notes when the progamme plays the music. How can I do this? I am >sorry, I guess this is eas

Re: [Finale] importing a score into Finale

2006-10-24 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:47 AM 10/24/2006, Will Denayer wrote: >Second, suppose I have a score that I downloaded from the net - say a >partita of Bach - and I want to import the score into Finale, so that >I can look at the notes when the progamme plays the music. How can I >do this? In what format did you download

[Finale] importing a score into Finale

2006-10-24 Thread Will Denayer
Hello All, First, Thank you Nick, indeed the articulation tool did not work because I was in the wrong layer ... Second, suppose I have a score that I downloaded from the net - say a partita of Bach - and I want to import the score into Finale, so that I can look at the notes when the progamme

Re: [Finale] Extraction frustrations

2006-10-24 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:43 PM 10/23/2006, Craig Sylvern wrote: >it came to extracting the parts I thought I was being punished. I >looked at every available help resource I had but could not get >systems to space out correctly. Can you be more specific about what you mean by 'correctly'? The basic settings for p

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 39, Issue 39

2006-10-24 Thread Craig Sylvern
Sorry about that. Using Finale 2006 (Mac) Craig > From: Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:30:44 -0400 > To: , > Subject: Re: [Finale] Extraction frustrations > > And what version are you using currently? That will help us help you. > (It sounds like yo

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:07 AM 10/24/06 +0100, Ken Moore wrote: >Comrie seemed to think (c.1940) that they were an >objectionable American innovation. I am interested in the suggestion >that they were originally intended for titles. Publishers of books of >mathematical tables would presumably want to use the sma

[Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-24 Thread Ken Moore
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, whatever it was, I was confused by your original post, where you seemed to be saying that the existence of fixed-width numerals was an "aberration". I thought David was suggesting that the equal height numerals were the newcomers. Comrie seemed to think (c.1

Re: [Finale] Extraction frustrations

2006-10-24 Thread Ken Moore
Craig Sylvern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Back in the day, I used to make a separate part-score before extracting, but I thought Finale had advanced enough so that extra step was unnecessary. I suspect I shall always want a separate part score, because I write music with lots of rests in each

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread Ken Moore
"David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 23 Oct 2006 at 22:52, dc wrote: > > The 3/1 sections use mostly double whole notes and whole notes, > whereas the C sections use up to 16th notes. > > See for example > > > wh

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-24 Thread Ken Moore
"David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My guess is that it's a holdover from the days when multimeasure rests actually represented the number of rests involved. That meant in 4/4 two measures of rest would be represented by a double whole rest (i.e., a block filling an entire space rathe