On 17.01.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
You're right, the price difference isn't that much, but you also have to factor
in the cost of upgrading all your software to Universal versions (unless you
want to run everything in emulation). And Lawrence has already paid for the
processor upgrade, so
On 17.01.2007 John Howell wrote:
Has anyone actually been inside St. Tom's, to estimate how many singers and
instrumentalists would have been sufficient? I doubt it was cathedral-sized.
Well, I have played there, incidentally with Joshua, but you cannot
compare it to the 18th century, as all
On 17.01.2007 Raymond Horton wrote:
I just remember an article after the first Rifkin recording that settled the issue as far
as I was concerned. If I am wrong, I'm wrong. My "instinctive feeling" is
that I am not!
Unfortunately this is the kind of way many people have dealt with the
evide
On 17.01.2007 John Howell wrote:
(One of my disagreements with the Rifkin hypothesis, whether or not it "works" for modern ears, is that in his 1731 memo Bach specifically mentioned both concertists and ripienists among the boys, and we do find such vocal parts in his hand or that of one of his re
On 17.01.2007 Raymond Horton wrote:
Joshua Rifkin's arguments of "one-on-a part" Bach choruses were long ago shown
to be without merit. Bach's church choir, as a rule, numbered 12, and he regularly
nagged unsuccessfully for it to be enlarged to 16. Rifkin based his argument on the
existence
On 17.01.2007 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
What annoys me in some sense about the whole "Early Music" business is
that ... you know, I have no objection to people performing Bach with
a large orchestra-and-chorus or a small orchestra-and-chorus or
quartet of saxophones. It doesn't worry me in the slig
On 17.01.2007 David W. Fenton wrote:
While I certainly Bach's music enjoyable and convincing when
performed one on a part, I *don't* find Rifkin's argument convincing
that this was Bach's intention (and his only intention). As someone
who's been involved in a lot of church music, I know that yo
Richard Yates wrote:
You will not find a good guitar sound in collections. After long search I
finally gave up and made my own soundfont. You can download it at:
Without stealing Richard's thunder, I also need to mention the
Samplesmith guitar font that my friend Keith and I developed. Chec
Define the tuplet you want BEFORE entering the first note. That's
the way Finale works it.
J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
On Jan 16, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Will Denayer wrote:
Hello. I am having another problem. It really bugs me. I am writing
in 4/4. In one measure I want 6 quarter notes to fill the
Instead of using "Specify Current Lyric," I just double-click on a
problematic lyric with the Selection Tool, and it automatically takes
me to the proper Verse or Chorus number.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY
On 16 Jan 2007, at 4:23 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On
I just remember an article after the first Rifkin recording that settled
the issue as far as I was concerned. If I am wrong, I'm wrong. My
"instinctive feeling" is that I am not!
RBH
Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
On 1/16/07, Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So McCreesh's "instinctive fe
On 1/16/07, Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So McCreesh's "instinctive feeling" trumps the evidence of Bach's 12
voice choir, plus his preference for a larger one?
What evidence?
"Rifkin's pesky idea" deals with that:
(taken from http://homepages.kdsi.net/~sherman/oneperpart.html)
*
So McCreesh's "instinctive feeling" trumps the evidence of Bach's 12
voice choir, plus his preference for a larger one?
RBH
Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
On 1/16/07, Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rifkin got some attention with his project, and got the musical world
thinking
about small
At 8:19 PM -0500 1/16/07, David W. Fenton wrote:
I always felt his one-on-a-part dogmatism was ridiculously
overstated, but I really don't think one can take the nominal number
of choir members as the actual number for performance. I have sung in
choirs with nominally 12-16 members that almost n
Yeah, I was wrong about it. I used to run XPostFacto on my 9500. No fun.
Kinda worked, except for the audio.
I'd say you are totally right, it's really not worth upgrading a G3 to
run OS X.it makes a lot more sense to just get a Mac Mini.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 17.01.2007 Eric Dannew
At 1:43 PM -0500 1/16/07, Phil Daley wrote:
> Payroll records weren't the only way to figure out how many musicians
performed at concerts, the number of parts tells us how many played as
well. (Of course as Joshua Rifkin's research as proved, not everyone
agrees.
So if there was one 1st cl
Hello. I am having another problem. It really bugs me. I am writing in 4/4. In
one measure I want 6 quarter notes to fill the measure. So, I type the first
note and then I click on the tuplet tool. When the window opens, I type that I
want 6 quarter notes in the space of 4 quarter notes. I click
On 16 Jan 2007 at 20:18, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
> On 1/16/07, Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rifkin got some attention with his project, and got the musical
> > world thinking about smaller choirs, perhaps, but the one-on-a part
> > B Minor Mass is just silly.
>
> Really?
>
> Tel
On 16 Jan 2007 at 19:56, Raymond Horton wrote:
> Joshua Rifkin's arguments of "one-on-a part" Bach choruses were long
> ago shown to be without merit. Bach's church choir, as a rule,
> numbered 12, and he regularly nagged unsuccessfully for it to be
> enlarged to 16. Rifkin based his argument on
On 1/16/07, Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rifkin got some attention with his project, and got the musical world thinking
about smaller choirs, perhaps, but the one-on-a part B Minor Mass is
just silly.
Really?
Tell that to Paul McCreesh:
**snip**(from an interview Paul McCreesh ga
You will not find a good guitar sound in collections. After long search I
finally gave up and made my own soundfont. You can download it at:
http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Milburn-normal.SF2 (4.7MB)
Note that this only has 'normal' tone. The complete soundfont (32MB) has
other patches for stac
Joshua Rifkin's arguments of "one-on-a part" Bach choruses were long ago
shown to be without merit. Bach's church choir, as a rule, numbered 12,
and he regularly nagged unsuccessfully for it to be enlarged to 16.
Rifkin based his argument on the existence of single choir copies.
There were g
Johannes,
You're right, the price difference isn't that much, but you also have
to factor in the cost of upgrading all your software to Universal
versions (unless you want to run everything in emulation). And
Lawrence has already paid for the processor upgrade, so now that he's
already go
On 16 Jan 2007 at 13:43, Phil Daley wrote:
> > Payroll records weren't the only way to figure out how many
> > musicians performed at concerts, the number of parts tells us how
> > many played as well. (Of course as Joshua Rifkin's research as
> > proved, not everyone agrees.
>
> So if there was
On 16 Jan 2007 at 19:23, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 16.01.2007 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
> > Payroll records weren't the only way to figure out how many
> > musicians performed at concerts, the number of parts tells us how
> > many played as well. (Of course as Joshua Rifkin's research as
> > prov
To my friends with experience in what, for want of any better term, I
will call "Classical/Contemporary" music:
I have written 7 rather complex arrangements of folk songs for voice
and piano - fairly demanding and well developed, that have idiomatic
jazz things in them (and other things not
On 17.01.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
As for graphics cards, if he wants to upgrade from the stock 2 MB Rage Pro (and
this is highly, highly recommended), he will need a PCI graphics card, like the
original Radeon, the Radeon 7000 Mac Edition, or the Radeon 9000 PCI Mac
Edition.
I would also
On 17.01.2007 Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I think that is for Pre-G3 machines. Like the 9500, which you can upgrade with
a G4 card. I think if it had a G3 card, and has USB, he'll be fine.
No, I am pretty sure it won't work without XPostFacto. And to be honest,
I am not so sure it is worth the effo
Oh yeah, I guess I had it wrong.
http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm?page=XPostFacto3.html
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Yes -- Lawrence will need XPostFacto to install 10.3 or 10.4.
(Preemptively: Lawrence, just google "XPostFacto".)
As for graphics cards, if he wants to
Eric,
I'm afraid you are mistaken. I used to own a beige G3, and you
*definitely* need XPostFacto to install anything later than 10.2.8.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY
On 16 Jan 2007, at 6:34 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I think that is for Pre-G3 machines. Like the 95
I think that is for Pre-G3 machines. Like the 9500, which you can
upgrade with a G4 card. I think if it had a G3 card, and has USB, he'll
be fine.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 17.01.2007 Eric Dannewitz wrote:
No, it will run 10.4.8
I thought it needed XPostFacto to run anything higher than 1
Yes -- Lawrence will need XPostFacto to install 10.3 or 10.4.
(Preemptively: Lawrence, just google "XPostFacto".)
As for graphics cards, if he wants to upgrade from the stock 2 MB
Rage Pro (and this is highly, highly recommended), he will need a PCI
graphics card, like the original Radeon,
On 17.01.2007 Eric Dannewitz wrote:
No, it will run 10.4.8
I thought it needed XPostFacto to run anything higher than 10.2.8. No?
Johannes
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No, it will run 10.4.8
There are no ram disks in OS X. I would recommend getting a faster IDE
drive for you computer, and a large one. OWC makes some that come with a
120gig fix (so you can have a single partition on older computers that
is more than 120 gigs).
Another thing you might want t
George,
The programs you mention (Finale, PowerTracks, BIAB etc) do not generate the
sounds - they simply send instructions to something called a "MIDI Device",
which converts the instructions into sounds. MIDI devices can be either a
piece of hardware (such as a soundcard inside your computer
Dear MacUsers on the List,
I added a ZIFF card to my Beige G3 so now it is a "G4."
I have been told that the Beige G3 can only run OS 10.2.8 and no higher.
Is this true?
What version of Finale do I need if I want to run it under 10.2.8?
Right now, I must boot up with my external HD that runs 9.
Will Denayer wrote:
Hello,
I have a problem. I want the time signature to be 2+3+2/8. Is there a way I can
write this in Finale? A possibility would be to write 7/8 and to divide the
first measure with dotted lines, but I do not know how to do this either - and
I didn't find it in the manual.
Aaron Rabushka wrote:
Often I've had the situation where I copy measures with lyrics in them to
have the lyrics show up in mid-staff at their new location. I wind up
clearing them out and typing them in again since trying to move them
vertically doesn't work. Has anyone else had this experience,
I was hoping that PowerTracks 11 would be good enough. Guess not, huh? I
forgot to mention that I have an Audigy sound card.
George
- Original Message -
From: "Eric Dannewitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar so
I have a Yamaha PSR85 keyboard but, couldn't find a guitar sound that I
liked. I forgot to mention that I have an Audigy sound card.
George
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From: "timothy.key.price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Getting a g
On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Is there any advantage to getting 2007a? I'm using 2007.
DEFINITELY get the updates (a, b etc.) as soon as they become
available. They invariably address bugs, and are free. There is no
good reason not to update.
The problem
On Jan 16, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote:
Often I've had the situation where I copy measures with lyrics in
them to
have the lyrics show up in mid-staff at their new location. I wind up
clearing them out and typing them in again since trying to move them
vertically doesn't work. Has
Finale 2007a - Mac.
Can anyone else confirms these bugs please?:
Whenever I try to insert a measure at the start of a score (i.e.
highlighting first measure in score and chosing measure insert) -
Finale crashes.
Also when editing smart shapes in parts or score the screen goes
blank as s
I am very upset by the news. He was a personal hero of mine.
I have enjoyed his music as soon as I heard it. I have many of his
transcription books. One of my life goals was to meet MB...I guess I'm not
going to be able to do that now.
Rest in peace my saxophone brother.
D~
-Original M
Have you tried a sampling synthesizer? I use a Kurtzweil 2500 but
there are lots, either a keyboard or just a rack mount.
Tim
On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:46 PM, George Ports wrote:
I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a
good guitar sound. All of the different programs
Hi,
Is there any advantage to getting 2007a? I'm using 2007.
The problem of Finale old notation showing up as a mess is occurring in
places of an old work. People mentioned that if they used a plug in
"Cocktail,"
they don't have a problem.
Where do I get "cocktail"
Thanks
Vivian Adelber
In the time signature dialog box, choose Composite time signature and
type in 2+3+2 in the top LH box, and 8 in the bottom LH box. Hit OK
and choose to have Finale display alternatively as 7/8.
That will work.
J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
On Jan 16, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Will Denayer wrote:
Hel
On Jan 16, 2007, at 2:33 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
BTW, in the case of Corelli the orchestra was actually huge by their
standards.
Spitzer and Zaslaw give the forces used by Corelli on a number of
specific occasions. Among these are several where truly mind-boggling
numbers of instrumen
On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:22 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 7:45 PM +0100 1/15/07, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
That is not to say there were no larger orchestral performances.
Handel's Messiah is a good example.
Oh?? I doubt his orchestra was more than 20, and about the same for
his chorus.
The 175
Hello,
I have a problem. I want the time signature to be 2+3+2/8. Is there a way I can
write this in Finale? A possibility would be to write 7/8 and to divide the
first measure with dotted lines, but I do not know how to do this either - and
I didn't find it in the manual. Best regards, Will
S
On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
On 1/15/07, Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have always found this distinction simplistic at best. Orchestras
began to break out of aristocratic boundaries almost immediately
(Corelli gave public concerts), and in London there we
Often I've had the situation where I copy measures with lyrics in them to
have the lyrics show up in mid-staff at their new location. I wind up
clearing them out and typing them in again since trying to move them
vertically doesn't work. Has anyone else had this experience, and does
anyone know ho
On Jan 15, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 15.01.2007 David W. Fenton wrote:
Certainly the orchestra before c1750 was very, very different from
the modern orchestra (in reality, I'd say it was a completely
different animal).
I completely agree. I have come to the conclusion th
Yes, that recording is interesting and quite convincing. A few years ago
some of the early music players in Dallas put on "Israel in Egypt" with 3 or
4 violins, and it worked very well.
Aaron J. Rabushka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://users.waymark.net/arabushk
- Original Message -
From: "Johan
> Payroll records weren't the only way to figure out how many musicians
> performed at concerts, the number of parts tells us how many played as
> well. (Of course as Joshua Rifkin's research as proved, not everyone
> agrees.
So if there was one 1st clarinet part, there was only one 1st clarinet
On 16.01.2007 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
Payroll records weren't the only way to figure out how many musicians
performed at concerts, the number of parts tells us how many played as
well. (Of course as Joshua Rifkin's research as proved, not everyone
agrees.
As someone who used to play with Josh
On 16.01.2007 David W. Fenton wrote:
Yes, but these were exceptions rather than the rule, relevant, of
course, to performing the music of the composer who had those
resources available, but certainly not sufficient that we should
generalize that nearly unique situation to the whole period.
Um, purchase a better software sampler? Native Instruments Bandstand, or
Garritan Jazz Band. There are a lot of choices out there. The built in
Finale sounds are, um, to be nice, very dated.
George Ports wrote:
I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar
sound.
I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar
sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such
as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to
have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying t
On 16 Jan 2007 at 8:33, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 16.01.2007 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
> > The only areas that could mount public concerts that were able to
> > pay for themselves completely by the box office sales (and NOT
> > support by a nobleman), were in London, Paris, Vienna. The really
> >
On 16.01.2007 John Howell wrote:
Interesting that what seems so black-and-white can be so confusing! In
Messiah, since there are con ripieno indications, by default there ARE
concertino players, but certainly not as featured soloists. In the operas and
oratorios the orchestra is a backup ban
At 8:33 AM +0100 1/16/07, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 16.01.2007 John Howell wrote:
That's also what I had in mind, and I have
always thought that the ripieno indications
were for this purpose.
Is memory betraying me?
Concertino and ripieno go back at least to
Corelli's concertos (which H
Yes!
Mike
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> Of themark
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:00 PM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] FinWin - Making Dolet be usable both with version 2005
> and2006
>
> I installed Neuratron Photos
I installed Neuratron Photoscore v.3.00. When installing Dolet I had to
choose only one path and decided to put it in 2005 plugins folder.
Can I simply copy the files into 2006 plugins folder to make it available
when using that version?
Thanks
Marcello
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At 7:21 PM -0500 1/13/07, Andrew Stiller wrote:
I would only add that in the English-speaking world (and in a number
of other traditions),
opera was never mass entertainment because it was almost invariably
performed in a foreign language.
Quite truthfully:
I cannot abide opera that is _n
dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Did Brahms really write for posterity or for the next concert?
Some of each, no doubt, but also to sell sheet music. The
Liebeslieder Waltzes were what made him sufficiently prosperous
to help Clara and the Schumann orphans.
--
Ken Moore
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