On Oct 15, 2007, at 1:27 PM, dhbailey wrote:
Yes, I had forgotten about the 3-octave keyboard simulation in
Speedy, you're correct.
This is my primary method of entry, and when I depart from it it's
generally to use the up and down arrow keys, which I understand are
also missing in
On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
The arrow keys come into play extensively (including for
pitch changes), and I keep my eyes on the score (or gazing blankly
into
the distance when composing into Finale), and don't look at the screen
except when moving elsewhere in
I am a only-Sibelius user, but I like to read this list, because it keeps
me informed, and the level of the notesetting-related themes is much more
interesting than in the other sibelius lists (for several reasons, which I
won't explain now).
I would second David's point - if you're
Mark D Lew wrote:
On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:11 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I'm still waiting for Finale to fix it's improved Fin2k8 speedy
entry tool so that ctrl-3 (top-row number key) initiates triplets
again. Why they would change that escapes my ability to understand.
But with the professed aim of
João Miguel Pais wrote:
I am a only-Sibelius user, but I like to read this list,
Would you be willing to share some things you don't like about Sibelius?
In this case, the devil we know has us so irritated that many are
considering going acourting with the devil we don't. But I'd like to
On Oct 16, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
All I want to know is this: Do Sibelius's slurs automatically avoid
collisions with noteheads and accidentals? And furthermore, do the
tips automatically avoid staff lines?
Although Finale Engraver slurs are one of the most unreliable
I am a only-Sibelius user, but I like to read this list,
Would you be willing to share some things you don't like about Sibelius?
In this case, the devil we know has us so irritated that many are
considering going acourting with the devil we don't. But I'd like to
know some more about that
I agree -- it's a Finale list. We all use it for specific reasons, so let's
leave the Sibelius topics out of it. Is there a Sibelius user list server?
Find that.
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From: Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:35
On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:27 AM, dhbailey wrote:
opt-3 should work when you use the 3 on the numpad. It just
doesn't work as it used to when you use the 3 on the top-row of
number keys.
Oh, well in that case it wouldn't bother me. I always use the number
pad.
mdl
Patrick Sheehan wrote:
I agree -- it's a Finale list. We all use it for specific reasons,
so let's leave the Sibelius topics out of it. Is there a Sibelius
user list server? Find that.
I think the case has already been made that the Sibelius discussion
IS a Finale topic.
-Randolph Peters
Friends:
This year, I have chosen til now to stay out of the Should I switch to
Sibelius discussion. I won't be switching from Finale to Sibelius.
Finale still fits my needs, and comes closer to other principles than
Sibelius does. Indeed, some actions by MakeMusic actually make it more
like
Mark D Lew wrote:
On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
The arrow keys come into play extensively (including for
pitch changes), and I keep my eyes on the score (or gazing blankly into
the distance when composing into Finale), and don't look at the screen
except when moving
On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
[some excellent commentary snipped]
Then there's the question of other revenue streams from the same
product. Both S~ and Finale bring in money from the flagship
product, but in addition to this, MakeMusic has the additional
revenue
On 17 Oct 2007 at 5:54, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
Indeed, some actions by MakeMusic actually make it more
like Sibelius than I prefer: the dropping of support for plug-in
development being one example
Is this true? I hadn't heard about it, or if I had, I blocked it out!
It's disastrous for
Given the recent Finale - Sibelius discussion, I thought people
might want to know that the new Sibelius 5.1 update announced today
includes support for importing MusicXML 2.0 files. Since Sibelius 5.0
supported only a few MusicXML 1.1 features, this results in much
better transfer from Finale to
On 17 Oct 2007 at 5:54, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
I don't mean to suggest that S~ is going out of business, but one has to
wonder about the low price on their product, even if it is temporary.
Not meaning to dispute any of your points or anything, I just want to
say that software pricing is
At 04:34 PM 10/17/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone here actually bought the $99 Sib 5 Competitive Upgrade? Does it
give you full Sib 5 functionality?
Yes, of course it does. It's the full program, offered at a special
price to get Finale users to switch.
Does it interact with Finale
Has anyone here actually bought the $99 Sib 5 Competitive Upgrade? Does it
give you full Sib 5 functionality? Does it interact with Finale in any
way, or is if stand-alone independent?
Aaron J. Rabushka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://users.waymark.net/arabushk
On 17 Oct 2007 at 15:48, Wade KOTTER wrote:
I do wonder if those of you who've recently ordered the competitive
upgrade will get 5.0 or 5.1.
Surely 5.0, as they probably have a backlog of the 5.0 CDs in their
inventory, and in the distribution channel.
--
David W. Fenton
Thanks to Michael Good for calling attention to the Sibelius 5.1 upgrade. There
is also an upgrade for PhotoScore Lite. For those of you who plan to upgrade,
there are a couple of things you might want to be aware of:
1. The Sibelius 5.1 upgrade file for Windows is 350 MB. It took almost half
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 17 Oct 2007 at 15:48, Wade KOTTER wrote:
I do wonder if those of you who've recently ordered the competitive
upgrade will get 5.0 or 5.1.
Surely 5.0, as they probably have a backlog of the 5.0 CDs in their
inventory, and in the distribution channel.
They're
Sorry. My comment quoted below was meant to be facetious. Perhaps a smiley
would have helped.
Wade
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 17 Oct 2007 at 15:48, Wade KOTTER wrote:
I do wonder if those of you who've recently ordered the competitive
upgrade will get 5.0 or 5.1.
Surely 5.0, as they
In response to my comment,
Then there's the question of other revenue streams from the same
product. Both S~ and Finale bring in money from the flagship product,
but in addition to this, MakeMusic has the additional revenue from the
other members of the family, for which S~ does not have
On Oct 17, 2007, at 4:30 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
And on the issue of software pricing, Joel Spolsky has this
informative article:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/CamelsandRubberDuckies.html
(it's a very long article, but extremely entertaining, as is most of
his writing)
Darcy,
Thanks. Everything works fine now.
Ciao,
Martin
On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
The Mighty Mouse is actually a two-button mouse (even though it
doesn't look like one). You are evidently right-clicking, which brings
up the contextual menu. Left-click for a
Let me get this straight. Sibelius is offering a free upgrade within
a few months of releasing a new version and the upgrade fixes bugs
AND extends features?
I vaguely remember Finale doing that a long time ago...
-Randolph Peters
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Finale mailing
At 08:35 PM 10/17/2007, Randolph Peters wrote:
Let me get this straight. Sibelius is offering a free upgrade within
a few months of releasing a new version and the upgrade fixes bugs
AND extends features?
FWIW, the PDF listing changes and bug fixes is 18 pages long. I'm not
sure whether to be
I have an actual Finale bug/tip!
I don't know if this problem still exists in Finale 2008 (I'm
guessing it does), but it is present in FinMac 2k7c.
Sometimes the automatic word extensions disappear over a double bar
line (i.e., 2 thin lines -- I use them at tempo changes).
The fix is to
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