Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 19 Sep 2008 at 13:07, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Not at all. The program is very valuable with the following thing turned > off. But not for a real-sounding accompaniment that a busker might use in the subway, or a soloist might use playing at a wedding reception, or any number of contexts wh

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I believe even Sir. James Galway uses the program.he's mentioned it a few times on his Galway flute list. You can tell the program to what degree to follow..but I've never found the feature particularly useful. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and, of course, there are phrases where the soloi

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Not at all. The program is very valuable with the following thing turned off. You can have it just GO and you have to keep up. You can also have a click sounding in addition to the accompaniment. I also have found that the following feature doesn't work all that well. I can't remember the last

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 19 Sep 2008 at 15:47, dhbailey wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > [snip]> Obviously, for teaching purposes with kids, you'd > turn off this > > feature, but for "grown-ups," it would be pretty useless without it, > > no? > > As an accompaniment for adults performing, I quite agree > with you

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: [snip]> Obviously, for teaching purposes with kids, you'd turn off this feature, but for "grown-ups," it would be pretty useless without it, no? As an accompaniment for adults performing, I quite agree with you. But SmartMusic is marketed to schools for students to

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 19 Sep 2008 at 15:05, dhbailey wrote: > I've never understood the reasoning behind SmartMusic's > ability to follow the student's tempo -- aren't we supposed > to learn it's bad to slow down in the hard parts and speed > up in the easy parts? How does that tempo-following ability > help th

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
and, of course, there are phrases where the soloist may want to pull the speed around within a strict tempo in the accompaniment and if the accompaniment follows, the result is not good. As I said, I've never used it so I don't know what it's capabilities/limitations are. I can only guess

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure it's supposed to follow so that a student can fail to keep a steady tempo, more that it can follow rubato and certain expressive changes of tempo (but then again, I've never used it so I don't know what its capabilities are) I realize it's not suppos

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Exactly. I turn off that "feature". The other thing I hate is the green follow line that never seems to want to be turned off (you turn it off in the preferences, but it comes back on when you load the program again). StarPlay has a great idea about having a conductor on the screen. But the library

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I'm not sure it's supposed to follow so that a student can fail to keep a steady tempo, more that it can follow rubato and certain expressive changes of tempo (but then again, I've never used it so I don't know what its capabilities are) Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk _

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread dhbailey
I've never understood the reasoning behind SmartMusic's ability to follow the student's tempo -- aren't we supposed to learn it's bad to slow down in the hard parts and speed up in the easy parts? How does that tempo-following ability help the student to learn to keep a steady tempo? I do re

Re: [Finale] list activity?

2008-09-19 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, You must have become inadvertently unsubscribed. Either that or all list mail is getting caught in your ISP's spam trap. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On Sep 19, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Haven't seen a thing in days. Wondering of there's

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread Eric Dannewitz
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:15 AM, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > If this is true, I'm not sure why this is seen as a problem, given > that Finale itself has never had backward compatibility of file > format. What exactly do you mean by "will only work with 2009?" I think he has it r

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Sep 2008 at 21:18, Howey, Henry wrote: > If you use SMARTMUSIC (and I really do love it) and FINALE (love-hate > relationship), you'll be pleased to know that the latest version of > SMARTMUSIC 11 will only work with 2009. If this is true, I'm not sure why this is seen as a problem, given

[Finale] list activity?

2008-09-19 Thread Chuck Israels
Haven't seen a thing in days. Wondering of there's something wrong with my account. Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Fina

Re: [Finale] Adding second expression

2008-09-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 19, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Andrew Levin wrote: Bug or feature? (Mac OS 10.5.4, Finale 2009, Mac Pro) I've already entered an expression to all parts in a score. Now I want to drag enclose the same notes and add an mf dynamic, using a metatool. However, it won't be placed. But if I click

[Finale] Adding second expression

2008-09-19 Thread Andrew Levin
Bug or feature? (Mac OS 10.5.4, Finale 2009, Mac Pro) I've already entered an expression to all parts in a score. Now I want to drag enclose the same notes and add an mf dynamic, using a metatool. However, it won't be placed. But if I click on each individual note with the metatool it *will* go i

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread Richard Smith
Actually there is an application called StarPlay. http://www.starplaymusic.com/index.php . It is a similar practice/assessment aid but lacks Smartmusic's ability to adjust tempo to the the student. It doesn't have the extensive content that SmartMusic does, but it has a video component that can

Re: [Finale] MAKEMUSIC greed strikes again

2008-09-19 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: But Sibelius does not work with Smartmusic. And they do not offer anything like it...as far as I know. Back on topic...makemusic did increase the price of a Smartmusic subscription, but as the library of songs keeps going, it is totally worth it (even though it has a